sm naruto vs killer b

ElectricClover · Sep 12, 2012

Joki said:
Sorry man, considering Kurama casually craps on the other 5 bijuu simultaneously, "lol hes 8 tails i cant read the manga durp" just doesn't work. And yeah, I have a raging hard on for chapter 1 Mizuki. Best character evar. Oh yeah, and Naruto totally doesn't have sensing or anything.

Did I make the claims? Support the strength of the things you think can scratch SM Naruto, I posted panels of FRS, by saying "Durp hes 8 tails, even though SM Naruto shat on Kurama and Kurama beat the shit out of all 5 bijuu at the same time, and 9>>>8 as said repeatedly" you confirmed you have absolutely no proof to support Bee being able to do shit, so thanks for the concession I'll take my win now.

I know I said I wasn't going to look up stuff anyone who reads Naruto should know, but I got tired of your bullshitting so here you go.

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Tell me how SM Naruto counters that shit.

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Then that please.

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Oh, and there's Gyuki himself stating that it doesn't matter how many tails one has. The bijuu are equal.

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That, my friend, is Gyuki saving Kurama from being crushed, then smacking down 5 tails.
After this Naruto senses the stakes and removes them, and only that way do they survive. I guess that takes care of your "Kurama beats all 5 trolololol" theory, huh?

Now for the supposed battle with SM Naruto vs Kurama:

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That's Gyuki saving Naruto's ass; he would've died otherwise.

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That's Kurama after FRS hit him. He is momentarily disoriented-- his fur is fuzzy. That is the result of your only idea. Nice try, but no, FRS does not defeat a bijuu.

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"This chakra... Kushina!" Right from Kurama's mouth. Naruto would've been taken over by the Kyuubi if not for her.

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Here Kushina yanks down Kurama; Naruto wouldn't have been able to do that, and not be able to hit him with a single rasengan.

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Naruto is stealing his chakra, smart one, not hurting him. Kurama doesn't have a scratch when next we see him. He is bony because he is a chakra entity and much chakra has been stolen.

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Oh, and then we see that Kurama still has the strength to do a massive TBB before KM Naruto seals him. In no way did SM Naruto beat Kurama or even remotely damage him; he used Kushina's help to steal chakra from the Kyuubi so he could seal it away.

Based on what the Gyuki himself said (or Kishimoto through him), my point has been this whole time that yes, Kurama is amazingly powerful, but he is equal with Gyuki, which just says how powerful Eight Tails is. Certainly enough to defeat SM Naruto, who doesn't have a chance in hell of defeating Kurama, or Gyuki, or any other bijuu for that matter. Heck, if you can just give me a way he survives a single TBB I'll be impressed. But I would ask that you at least try to employ argument other than insisting you've won; it's not fooling anyone.

Simple Math · Sep 12, 2012

killerb rapes sm naruto easily lol

bm naruto is another talk

fourth kazekage · Sep 13, 2012

Killer b easily

Joki · Sep 13, 2012

ElectricClover said:
I know I said I wasn't going to look up stuff anyone who reads Naruto should know, but I got tired of your bullshitting so here you go.

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Tell me how SM Naruto counters that shit.

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Now tell me how Killer Bee counters that shit?

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Then that please

Note how the edo jins were simply blown back by the blast and SM Naruto's tanking power's far beyond theirs. Also note that won't really protect him from being hit by an FRS.

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Oh, and there's Gyuki himself stating that it doesn't matter how many tails one has. The bijuu are equal.

Allow me to support my side by posting a statement the character I'm supporting said as if its 100% true even though Kurama shitting on all the other bijuu at the same time disproves it!
That's weird because Kurama just happened to get lucky and by far surpasses all the other bijuu, I guess it doesn't matter if he has 1 or 9 tails then since he's still the strongest by far. That page proves your own argument wrong lol...but people who won't admit when they're obviously wrong believe what they want to believe, clearly.

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That, my friend, is Gyuki saving Kurama from being crushed, then smacking down 5 tails.

That, my friend, is the one hit Hachibi actually got. Now if you weren't so arrogant and prideful and payed attention to the SURROUNDING pages you'd see Kurama beating the shit out of all the other bijuu while gyuki stands around and does nothing.

After this Naruto senses the stakes and removes them, and only that way do they survive. I guess that takes care of your "Kurama beats all 5 trolololol" theory, huh?

What theory? You mean manga fact? It ****ing happened, read the manga and stop taking a bunch of out of context manga panels to fit your argument as if it means something. Read the other pages and don't ignore the important ones next time. And make sure not to highly exaggerate what happens on panel and try to downplay every impressive thing Naruto has done that make Hachibi cry by just thinking about.

Now for the supposed battle with SM Naruto vs Kurama:

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That's Gyuki saving Naruto's ass; he would've died otherwise.

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That's Kurama after FRS hit him. He is momentarily disoriented-- his fur is fuzzy. That is the result of your only idea. Nice try, but no, FRS does not defeat a bijuu.

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"This chakra... Kushina!" Right from Kurama's mouth. Naruto would've been taken over by the Kyuubi if not for her.

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Here Kushina yanks down Kurama; Naruto wouldn't have been able to do that, and not be able to hit him with a single rasengan.

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Naruto is stealing his chakra, smart one, not hurting him. Kurama doesn't have a scratch when next we see him. He is bony because he is a chakra entity and much chakra has been stolen.

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Oh, and then we see that Kurama still has the strength to do a massive TBB before KM Naruto seals him. In no way did SM Naruto beat Kurama or even remotely damage him; he used Kushina's help to steal chakra from the Kyuubi so he could seal it away.

Holy shit bro. Do you even pay attention to what happens in the scans instead of trying to fit them how you want? Don't put words in the characters mouths, you know damn well what happened, I guess you're incapable of providing unbiased evidence. If I didn't have a mouse that's shitting out on me I'd actually post the other scans but I can't right now so you'll have to wait for me to prove your unprofessional argument wrong.

So basically what we see here is you skipping all the relevant scans that prove you wrong so you can act like you're right and you highly exaggerating or downplaying what happened. I'm sure while you were reading you had a few "oh shit! I cant post that one, Itll prove me wrong! *clicks next page*" moments there. Also allow me to re-note that is Kurama the strongest bijuu and not the 8 tails a completely unrelated bijuu who's nothing in comparison

Based on what the Gyuki himself said (or Kishimoto through him), my point has been this whole time that yes, Kurama is amazingly powerful, but he is equal with Gyuki, which just says how powerful Eight Tails is. Certainly enough to defeat SM Naruto, who doesn't have a chance in hell of defeating Kurama, or Gyuki, or any other bijuu for that matter. Heck, if you can just give me a way he survives a single TBB I'll be impressed. But I would ask that you at least try to employ argument other than insisting you've won; it's not fooling anyone.

Yeah, I like how your post didn't show shit towards him surviving FRSes, etc while everything in your post was already countered in my past posts..maybe if you looked at things rationally and how the manga actually proves things you'd see in a different light then again I don't give a shit who you think wins. You're wrong, but I obviously won't get you to see that you're wrong if you go to these lengths. I might have went more in depth or actually put in half an effort if I had a mouse that actually worked but oh well you get what you get for now.

ElectricClover · Sep 14, 2012

Joki said:
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Now tell me how Killer Bee counters that shit?

Note how the edo jins were simply blown back by the blast and SM Naruto's tanking power's far beyond theirs. Also note that won't really protect him from being hit by an FRS.

Allow me to support my side by posting a statement the character I'm supporting said as if its 100% true even though Kurama shitting on all the other bijuu at the same time disproves it!
That's weird because Kurama just happened to get lucky and by far surpasses all the other bijuu, I guess it doesn't matter if he has 1 or 9 tails then since he's still the strongest by far. That page proves your own argument wrong lol...but people who won't admit when they're obviously wrong believe what they want to believe, clearly.

That, my friend, is the one hit Hachibi actually got. Now if you weren't so arrogant and prideful and payed attention to the SURROUNDING pages you'd see Kurama beating the shit out of all the other bijuu while gyuki stands around and does nothing.

What theory? You mean manga fact? It ****ing happened, read the manga and stop taking a bunch of out of context manga panels to fit your argument as if it means something. Read the other pages and don't ignore the important ones next time. And make sure not to highly exaggerate what happens on panel and try to downplay every impressive thing Naruto has done that make Hachibi cry by just thinking about.

Holy shit bro. Do you even pay attention to what happens in the scans instead of trying to fit them how you want? Don't put words in the characters mouths, you know damn well what happened, I guess you're incapable of providing unbiased evidence. If I didn't have a mouse that's shitting out on me I'd actually post the other scans but I can't right now so you'll have to wait for me to prove your unprofessional argument wrong.

So basically what we see here is you skipping all the relevant scans that prove you wrong so you can act like you're right and you highly exaggerating or downplaying what happened. I'm sure while you were reading you had a few "oh shit! I cant post that one, Itll prove me wrong! *clicks next page*" moments there. Also allow me to re-note that is Kurama the strongest bijuu and not the 8 tails a completely unrelated bijuu who's nothing in comparison

Yeah, I like how your post didn't show shit towards him surviving FRSes, etc while everything in your post was already countered in my past posts..maybe if you looked at things rationally and how the manga actually proves things you'd see in a different light then again I don't give a shit who you think wins. You're wrong, but I obviously won't get you to see that you're wrong if you go to these lengths. I might have went more in depth or actually put in half an effort if I had a mouse that actually worked but oh well you get what you get for now.

So basically... Naruto is raped by a single TBB. Show me one example of him being fast enough in SM to get out of range of an attack the size of the bijuu bomb.

He goes into Eight Tailed form. Done.

Um, that's Naruto's tanking power in bijuu-cloak form. This is SM, guy, no tanking the whirlwind here. If Naruto did have an FRS the wind would be enough to knock his aim way off, it's been done before.

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if one provides enough evidence for it. But the fact is that battle was crucial to Kurama and Naruto's development and so the development of the story, so of course Kurama is going to be fighting a lot. That doesn't prove that he's the strongest by any means; just that he seems the strongest. I usually go by the straight-out statements rather than the murky workings of plot and interpretation, I don't know about you.

So you admit that Gyuki was helping in that battle. That's great. And I didn't post it, but earlier Kurama wasn't even in the battle when Eight Tails and Naruto were fighting the cloaked form jinchuriki, and when four tails went bijuu mode. Kurama was useless then. He came in late in the battle and then got a lot of screen time because he and Naruto's power and teamwork were being developed in the story. Eight Tails saved Kurama with that 'single hit,' anyway (but technically he fought with 3 and 5 tails so it wasn't a single hit even in the page that I showed).

Okay, then you've no evidence whatsoever that Kurama did anything but provide an opening for Naruto to remove the stakes? Got it.

So basically you have no answer to my proof of what happened in that battle and have to resort to attacking me instead? Well, you might try being a little more subtle about it; people might think that you're stumped. You say I interpret the panels too much, but I haven't seen a single straight fact from you nor any interpretation that is remotely plausible. I show you Naruto sucking out Kurama's chakra and say the way he wins is by sucking out chakra, not beating him. You show me an FRS and say SM Naruto beats Eight Tailed Bee. And I think you are all too hypocritical when you suggest I skip things that work against me; you seem bent on ignoring certain facts that I have proved to you and obviously read with holes in your vision that block out certain panels (like Kushina's chains pulling down Kurama). I'm beginning to think that the only reason you say these things is because you really can't find of a counter-scan, no matter how hard you search, so you have to say I'm manipulating the manga instead of actually addressing my evidence.

This last part is just wrap-up commentary, I don't really need to talk about that. But you didn't seem to realize that this whole time you've been talking about how strong Kurama is (and I've been willing to shift your focus to a little more realistic view), but what I'm saying is that yes, that's the kind of power of a bijuu. SM just doesn't cut it. Even if Eight Tails was half of Kurama's strength (which I have already refuted), it would still be enough to tank several FRSes and a bunch of big rasengans, as Kurama shook them off with barely a fuzz in his fur. Furthermore, perhaps I should talk a little more about FRS. I think you blow it way out of proportion in your appreciation of Naruto. It can be tanked by a bijuu, easily by Kurama. It can be knocked off aim with only a nudge to Naruto's arm. It is slow moving even when thrown; Pain without a single power was able to dodge it; not that he is anything to go by, but the Third Raikage dodged one like three times. Even if an FRS wasn't knocked out into space by whirlwind hitting Naruto, or Eight Tails didn't simply dodge it, it would hit, expand, and do little, and that's if Gyuki is even half Kurama's power, mind you. Meanwhile, a TBB would wreck Naruto and all you can say is that he'd get out of the way in time when his SM has never been shown fast enough to dodge anything near that magnitude.

GiantShuriken · Sep 14, 2012

If Bee in his BM mode can't beat Naruto in Sage Mode, Naruto should not even have wasted his time learning JM and later getting BM.

Joki · Sep 15, 2012

ElectricClover said:
So basically... Naruto is raped by a single TBB. Show me one example of him being fast enough in SM to get out of range of an attack the size of the bijuu bomb.

He goes into Eight Tailed form. Done.

Um, that's Naruto's tanking power in bijuu-cloak form. This is SM, guy, no tanking the whirlwind here. If Naruto did have an FRS the wind would be enough to knock his aim way off, it's been done before.

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if one provides enough evidence for it. But the fact is that battle was crucial to Kurama and Naruto's development and so the development of the story, so of course Kurama is going to be fighting a lot. That doesn't prove that he's the strongest by any means; just that he seems the strongest. I usually go by the straight-out statements rather than the murky workings of plot and interpretation, I don't know about you.

So you admit that Gyuki was helping in that battle. That's great. And I didn't post it, but earlier Kurama wasn't even in the battle when Eight Tails and Naruto were fighting the cloaked form jinchuriki, and when four tails went bijuu mode. Kurama was useless then. He came in late in the battle and then got a lot of screen time because he and Naruto's power and teamwork were being developed in the story. Eight Tails saved Kurama with that 'single hit,' anyway (but technically he fought with 3 and 5 tails so it wasn't a single hit even in the page that I showed).

Okay, then you've no evidence whatsoever that Kurama did anything but provide an opening for Naruto to remove the stakes? Got it.

So basically you have no answer to my proof of what happened in that battle and have to resort to attacking me instead? Well, you might try being a little more subtle about it; people might think that you're stumped. You say I interpret the panels too much, but I haven't seen a single straight fact from you nor any interpretation that is remotely plausible. I show you Naruto sucking out Kurama's chakra and say the way he wins is by sucking out chakra, not beating him. You show me an FRS and say SM Naruto beats Eight Tailed Bee. And I think you are all too hypocritical when you suggest I skip things that work against me; you seem bent on ignoring certain facts that I have proved to you and obviously read with holes in your vision that block out certain panels (like Kushina's chains pulling down Kurama). I'm beginning to think that the only reason you say these things is because you really can't find of a counter-scan, no matter how hard you search, so you have to say I'm manipulating the manga instead of actually addressing my evidence.

This last part is just wrap-up commentary, I don't really need to talk about that. But you didn't seem to realize that this whole time you've been talking about how strong Kurama is (and I've been willing to shift your focus to a little more realistic view), but what I'm saying is that yes, that's the kind of power of a bijuu. SM just doesn't cut it. Even if Eight Tails was half of Kurama's strength (which I have already refuted), it would still be enough to tank several FRSes and a bunch of big rasengans, as Kurama shook them off with barely a fuzz in his fur. Furthermore, perhaps I should talk a little more about FRS. I think you blow it way out of proportion in your appreciation of Naruto. It can be tanked by a bijuu, easily by Kurama. It can be knocked off aim with only a nudge to Naruto's arm. It is slow moving even when thrown; Pain without a single power was able to dodge it; not that he is anything to go by, but the Third Raikage dodged one like three times. Even if an FRS wasn't knocked out into space by whirlwind hitting Naruto, or Eight Tails didn't simply dodge it, it would hit, expand, and do little, and that's if Gyuki is even half Kurama's power, mind you. Meanwhile, a TBB would wreck Naruto and all you can say is that he'd get out of the way in time when his SM has never been shown fast enough to dodge anything near that magnitude.

Try actually countering the scans I posted next time. All of this bullshit is proof you scrolled past them at light speed, there's a reason I didn't spoiler tag them.

Guru2 · Sep 15, 2012

Naruto. Talk No Jutsu+Will Of Fire No Jutsu= Octo*****.

Next thread.

Menma Senju · Oct 13, 2012

I think Naruto Uzumaki will win when he mastered his powers.

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