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[Winter Savior]

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People don't want to admit that Kabuto was the most complete character without some god-given eyes that he didn't earn, and got his skill and ability through talent and his own means.

Also, about the list; if you're going on Info, to have Hashirama at Number 1 destroys this list's credibility as one of the main reasons for people makings lists about info is b/c people hype him when we don't know much of anything about him.

 

[Simple Math]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

not bad but a few things need to be changed

 

[Frikid]

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even though i don't agree with the list, but yeah, i like it

 

[VongolaX]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

ya pain should be lower than that

 

[VongolaX]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

my top 10 would be:

1. hashi - the one to be able to go against madara and the nine tailed fox and come off the winner
2. madara - was the rival to hashi and has wooped the 5 kages
3. minato - its hard to make a gd estimate of his strength but in naruto intelligence and speed>pure power.. was also known as legendary and ninja were told to flee on sight
4. obito - i think we all know why here lol
5 itachi - he's a beast and is very intelligent ( had trouble thinking if he should be 4th )
6. nagato - rinnegan makes him beast and he is also very intelligent
7. naruto - we all know why
8 kabutomaru - sage mode + many different abilities
9. bee - perfect jinchurikee
10 sasuke - i put him 10th as we dont know his true strength
this would be my top ten

That's about right

 

[Datguyjr]

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my top 10 would be:

1. hashi - the one to be able to go against madara and the nine tailed fox and come off the winner
2. madara - was the rival to hashi and has wooped the 5 kages
3. minato - its hard to make a gd estimate of his strength but in naruto intelligence and speed>pure power.. was also known as legendary and ninja were told to flee on sight
4. obito - i think we all know why here lol
5 itachi - he's a beast and is very intelligent ( had trouble thinking if he should be 4th )
6. nagato - rinnegan makes him beast and he is also very intelligent
7. naruto - we all know why
8 kabutomaru - sage mode + many different abilities
9. bee - perfect jinchurikee
10 sasuke - i put him 10th as we dont know his true strength

this would be my top ten

Nice list, but Madara now has Hashirama abilities and his own combined, that's why I put Madara at #1 & Minato & Itachi, I put below all Rinnegan users because they're at a higher level then the rest. Minato defeated Obito before with the Sharingan but could he do the same now with his current abilities?

Itachi is below Sasuke..? Minato > BM Naruto?

Technically Sasuke did surpass Itachi once he gained EMS, he can go toe to toe in Taijutsu, see through & break his Genjutsu and has more arsenal in Ninjutsu, if they were to fight now, Sasuke > Itachi. Also, I put Minato higher then Naruto because I consider him far stronger then Naruto, able to take on Obito who has a far superior Space Time Jutsu than his, devise a plan within moments and defeat him & then take care of the Nine Tails after, as well as his FTG Jutsu and Fūinjutsu abilities. According to Jiraiya, Minato was one of the most gifted shinobi who ever lived and it was believed that he was one of the strongest shinobi that ever existed.

no

Let me guess, Tsunade would be top 10 to you?

Lol pain 4th xd

Where would you rank him?

I disagree with the order but the list is nicely laid out. I don't get how Hashirama's so high but the only thing we can go on is hype even though he was defeated as an edo along with his brother and Orochimaru by an old Hiruzen. Also Minato isn't above Naruto. Those are the two main problems that stood out to me.

Usually I'd rank Hashirama at #1, being said to be the strongest by numerous other Shinobi, defeating Madara + Kurama and coming out the victor and being considered a fairy tail on how powerful he was like the Rikudo Sennin, but being that Madara now has Hashirama's power and his own combined with the Rinnegan also, I put him at #2.

"I put Minato higher then Naruto because I consider him far stronger then Naruto, able to take on Obito who has a far superior Space Time Jutsu than his, devise a plan within moments and defeat him & then take care of the Nine Tails after, as well as his FTG Jutsu and Fuinjutsu abilities. According to Jiraiya, Minato was one of the most gifted shinobi who ever lived and it was believed that he was one of the strongest shinobi that ever existed." - From above reply to MellowHype.

Actually not a terrible list, but this is starting to annoy me. WHY THE HELL is Kabuto not number 1??? He has EDO TENSEI. With that, no one beats him.

If you know Fūinjutsu, Edo Tensei can be handled accordingly, his DSM + combined other abilities makes him extremely strong which is why he's top 10 out of millions of other shinobi but I dont see him being above the people ahead of him.

not bad but a few things need to be changed

Post your changes with valid reasons, this list isn't absolute and is subject to change.

ya pain should be lower than that

Your underestimating Nagato, able to completely immobilize Naruto & Killer B and would have defeated them both had Itachi not been their to save them.

 

[darthvader5666]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

1. Kabuto (with his full ET army)
2. Edo Madara
3. Obito
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Naruto/Minato
8. Sasuke
9. Itachi

Not sure about 10.

 

[Datguyjr]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

1. Kabuto (with his full ET army)
2. Edo Madara
3. Obito
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Naruto/Minato
8. Sasuke
9. Itachi

Not sure about 10.

Why Hashirama barely make top 5?

 

[FizzyDrink]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

If you know Fūinjutsu, Edo Tensei can be handled accordingly, his DSM + combined other abilities makes him extremely strong which is why he's top 10 out of millions of other shinobi but I dont see him being above the people ahead of him.

You are in fact incorrect here. A knowledge of Fuinjutsu MIGHT help you deal with 1 or 2 edos, but there is no way any of those people you placed above Kabuto can take on AND seal: Edo Madara. Edo Nagato. Edo Itachi. Edo Muu. Edo 2nd Mizukage. Edo 3rd Raikage. Edo Deidara. Edo Kin-Jin brothers. And MANY more. In the same battle. Without getting killed. There is frankly no way.

And even if he were fighting Madara (in this case Kabuto wouldn't have access to Edo Madara), Madara still certainly cannot take the combined attacks of ALL of these ninja. There is no way.

So yeah. Fuinjutsu knowledge is nice, but it's nothing here. Kabuto is number 1.

 

[Draegod]

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KAbuto>>> everyone on that list so far! Only Madara and tobi stands a chance (naruto aswell).

 

[Kokuo]

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Bump Minato down to about 10 and replace Danzo entirely he's around 15 and you got yourself a good list, +Rep anyway for the presentation.

 

[SilverSlick]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

1. Kabuto
2. Obito
3. Madara(Barely above Nagato)
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Tobirama
7. Minato(Barely above Itachi)
8. Itachi
9. Muu
10. Hiruzen/Jiraiya

Kabuto should automatically go first on any list as FizzyDrink explained. Actually, 3 other top debaters(TobisPawn, Noddy, and EliteKakashi) and me also agree that Kabuto is #1. Obito should definitely be second, in front of Madara, Edo or not. Why? Because of his crazy ass arsenal.

-6 Edo Jinchuriki(Plus their tailed beast form)
-Gedo Mazo
-S/T Migration
-Various Rinnegan abilities(Soul rip, chakra chains, etc.)
-Senju DNA
-VERY UNDERRATED SENSING ABILITY

Here's the thing about Obito's 6 Edo Jinchuriki. They all have Rinnegan and Sharingan. Meaning, they have shared vision, thus limiting the enemy's ability of offense drastically. Unlike Nagato's 6 paths, they retain their own abilities. For example, Utakata retains his special Bubble Release.

They can also turn into their tailed beast form. Seriously, 6 tailed beast bombs can destroy pretty much anything.

Basically when you're fighting Obito, its a four round fight.

1st Round-Edo Jinchuriki
2nd Round-Tailed Beast
3rd Round-Obito+Gedo Mazo
4th Round-Obito himself

Alternatively, the fourth round can be Obito+Juubi. Anyways, KM Naruto and Bee were easily overwhelmed in round 2. Hadn't it been for Kakashi and Guy, Naruto would of been captured. Of course throughout these rounds, the opponent has to deal with Obito trying to warp them.

 

[Datguyjr]

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You are in fact incorrect here. A knowledge of Fuinjutsu MIGHT help you deal with 1 or 2 edos, but there is no way any of those people you placed above Kabuto can take on AND seal: Edo Madara. Edo Nagato. Edo Itachi. Edo Muu. Edo 2nd Mizukage. Edo 3rd Raikage. Edo Deidara. Edo Kin-Jin brothers. And MANY more. In the same battle. Without getting killed. There is frankly no way.

And even if he were fighting Madara (in this case Kabuto wouldn't have access to Edo Madara), Madara still certainly cannot take the combined attacks of ALL of these ninja. There is no way.

So yeah. Fuinjutsu knowledge is nice, but it's nothing here. Kabuto is number 1.

Kabuto said himself he can't take Rinnegan users on, and he himself said Hashirama's strength was considered fairy tail and no one's on his level, that's including himself. Minato knows tons of Uzumaki Fuinjutsu, there's no telling what he's really capable of. Naruto BM clones > every Edo Kabuto has aside from Madara and Nagato but controlling that many Edo takes considerable chakra.

Bump Minato down to about 10 and replace Danzo entirely he's around 15 and you got yourself a good list, +Rep anyway for the presentation.

Minato at #10? lol & your underestimating Danzo, he should be in everyone's top 10, can't be killed for 10 minutes, KA, Wind, Water, Earth nature and Wood Release KekKei Genkai?

 

[Datguyjr]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

1. Kabuto
2. Obito
3. Madara(Barely above Nagato)
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Tobirama
7. Minato(Barely above Itachi)
8. Itachi
9. Muu
10. Hiruzen/Jiraiya

Kabuto should automatically go first on any list as FizzyDrink explained. Actually, 3 other top debaters(TobisPawn, Noddy, and EliteKakashi) and me also agree that Kabuto is #1. Obito should definitely be second, in front of Madara, Edo or not. Why? Because of his crazy ass arsenal.

-6 Edo Jinchuriki(Plus their tailed beast form)
-Gedo Mazo
-S/T Migration
-Various Rinnegan abilities(Soul rip, chakra chains, etc.)
-Senju DNA
-VERY UNDERRATED SENSING ABILITY

Here's the thing about Obito's 6 Edo Jinchuriki. They all have Rinnegan and Sharingan. Meaning, they have shared vision, thus limiting the enemy's ability of offense drastically. Unlike Nagato's 6 paths, they retain their own abilities. For example, Utakata retains his special Bubble Release.

They can also turn into their tailed beast form. Seriously, 6 tailed beast bombs can destroy pretty much anything.

Basically when you're fighting Obito, its a four round fight.

1st Round-Edo Jinchuriki
2nd Round-Tailed Beast
3rd Round-Obito+Gedo Mazo
4th Round-Obito himself

Alternatively, the fourth round can be Obito+Juubi. Anyways, KM Naruto and Bee were easily overwhelmed in round 2. Hadn't it been for Kakashi and Guy, Naruto would of been captured. Of course throughout these rounds, the opponent has to deal with Obito trying to warp them.

No way is Obito over Madara, 6 Edo Jinchuriki vs multiple Wood Clones w/ Susanoo, Madara can also summon Gedo Mazo & use all the Paths abilities being that it's a Rinnegan jutsu which he also possesses. He also has Hashirama's DNA and could use Wood Release and Perfect Susanoo and much more. Him and Hashirama aren't said to be the strongest for no reason, I respect personal opinion but Manga says Hashirama & Madara are top 2.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

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The fail is so high in these tier lists smfh

 

[SilverSlick]

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No way is Obito over Madara, 6 Edo Jinchuriki vs multiple Wood Clones w/ Susanoo, Madara can also summon Gedo Mazo & use all the Paths abilities being that it's a Rinnegan jutsu which he also possesses. He also has Hashirama's DNA and could use Wood Release and Perfect Susanoo and much more. Him and Hashirama aren't said to be the strongest for no reason, I respect personal opinion but Manga says Hashirama & Madara are top 2.

That's wrong. Madara can't summon Gedo Mazo nor can he use all of the Rinnegan abilities because he has no feats to suggest that he can. On the base, we really don't take into consideration what one person has to say about another, such as Kabuto saying Hashirama is superior because it really doesn't matter. We're given their abilities. You're going off hype which is useless in a debate. Madara has no counter for Obito's S/T technique and 6 tailed beasts can handle simple clones.

 

[Datguyjr]

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That's wrong. Madara can't summon Gedo Mazo nor can he use all of the Rinnegan abilities because he has no feats to suggest that he can. On the base, we really don't take into consideration what one person has to say about another, such as Kabuto saying Hashirama is superior because it really doesn't matter. We're given their abilities. You're going off hype which is useless in a debate. Madara has no counter for Obito's S/T technique and 6 tailed beasts can handle simple clones.

He's already used Preta Path, "The Rinnegan grants the user to use all 6 Paths techniques, including the 7th path" meaning he can use those abilities. 6 Jinchuriki can certainly handle simple clones but his are not, they're Wood clones that do not disperse when hit like regular Shadow clones and also have Susanoo with Sharingan, EMS, & Rinnegan as well. The Jinchuriki would have to transform I to Tailed Beats to fight Madara's Susanoo but then they become Amaterasu targets when they do.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

1. Kabuto
2. Obito
3. Madara(Barely above Nagato)
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Tobirama
7. Minato(Barely above Itachi)
8. Itachi
9. Muu
10. Hiruzen/Jiraiya

Almost a good list, However most people know Madara is the superior out of him and Tobi. Plus the 6 tailed beasts aren't even tobi's power; nor does he possess them anymore. He only has Gedo Mazo and I am pretty sure Rinnegan Madara can handle Gedo Mazo with multiple Susanoo clones, dropping meteors on it etc.

Tobirama should not be on that list, but the. I saw your avatar and sig so if it really makes you happy then go ahead, but I'm sure more than 95% of the base will disagree with you. Plus from my understanding his Edo tensei was incomete. Ororchimaru completed it I think. We hardly know anything about Tobirama so I have no idea why you even consider him top 10.

I think Mu is slightly overrated, I may be wrong but I don't think Mu should be top 10 (top 15 at least). The fact that you put him above EMS Sasuke scares me. There is no way Mu is beating Sasuke, absolutely no way. Even KM Naruto is enough to beat Mu.

I Lol'd so hard at Hiruzen at 10. Even Sage Jiraya is stronger than him. Both are top 20 but seriously top 10 is a joke. You left Killer Bee out of your list too. Hiruzen would not beat him, Sage Jiraya has a slight chance if he summons Bunta. But what would Hiruzen do again the 8 tails apart from RDS. And if you seriously think Hiruzen>EMS then there is no hope for you....jk.

Please don't take some of the things I said to you personally, I'm not trying to flame you. Just saying what I think is wrong in your list.

Edit: Kabuto is not above Madara, I doubt even Obito. Perfect Susanoo will deal with Kabuto and any Edo he summons.

 

[Datguyjr]

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You are in fact incorrect here. A knowledge of Fuinjutsu MIGHT help you deal with 1 or 2 edos, but there is no way any of those people you placed above Kabuto can take on AND seal: Edo Madara. Edo Nagato. Edo Itachi. Edo Muu. Edo 2nd Mizukage. Edo 3rd Raikage. Edo Deidara. Edo Kin-Jin brothers. And MANY more. In the same battle. Without getting killed. There is frankly no way.

And even if he were fighting Madara (in this case Kabuto wouldn't have access to Edo Madara), Madara still certainly cannot take the combined attacks of ALL of these ninja. There is no way.

So yeah. Fuinjutsu knowledge is nice, but it's nothing here. Kabuto is number 1.

Based on this & others agreement, I moved Kabuto to #6 from #8.

 

[Datguyjr]

Re: Naruto Shippuden: Top 10 Strongest Characters w/ Info

Also, Danzo from #10 to #9, anyone have some more suggestions?