[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 601 Discussion and 602 Predictions

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My first post at the base. I need some feedback from you all on something that I feel strongly about.

So up till now, we have been assuming that Hashirama was the strongest shinobi. But now I am really starting to doubt it, and I have my reasons. Looking at Madara since his revival from Edo Tensei, his planning and his knowledge actually gives me the idea that Madara never fought Hashirama over power, his sole objective was to get Senju DNA and he planned for a very distant future, which he is giving us little information on right now.

All the secrets of the SO6P are on the Uchiha tablet that only Uchiha eyes can read, as we have continuously seen no Senju being aware of the history and secrets. I believe Madara had this planned before the battle of Hashirama. He wanted to take his DNA to conduct his plan for the future and finding Nagato & Obito was his luck and it all fitted his plan which of course is the Moon Eye plan.

Let me know what you guys think?
 

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I swear that if Tsunade dies, I ****ing quit the manga. I mean, it's too convinent. I agree that Madara is OP and stuff like that, but hell, Kishi is contradicting his own ****ing traits!

I have already accepted that Obito is Tobi, but if Tsunade dies, I'm quitting! She didn't died from a FULL SHINRA TENSEI and Heavenly Transfer Jutsu who was supposed to shred her to pieces and she dies FROM A TREE?! Are you ****ing serious Kishi? Your logic is ****ed-up! Plus, who the hell is going to be there to teach Sakura? Going down with her development as a character? Well, isn't that great? Everybody gets OP, she gets nothing. I am already sick of Kishi's way of writing.

Plus, he's as well underpowering Naruto. He could blew mountains and he cannot blow a fan? Seriously now, Kishi?

I already said it, the next Naruto chapter will be defining for me.
lol calm down
 

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What I don't get;

1. Why the F*** are madara and obito doing like talking to each other about their plan in front of their enemies. Are they really that confident?
2. If Madara was old guy who saved Obito, why is he revived in his young age form? Isn't he supposed to be revived old like the Chiyo? Because its the same jutsu that revived them...

Oh ..and also where is Orochimaru and Sasuke? are they at a motel or something like reminiscing the past? ..LOL
 

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That mean genius that if Madara fought the first Hokage to get his cells, for two reason the first Hokage was powerful. First off Madara wanted a power up from getting the first cells, to get more chakra and the rinnigan, not the other way around(the first didn't fight Madara to get his EMS eye's for the sharingan vision & rinnigan power up which he could of did). The number two reason is, I would think that Madara would still been able to get the first Hokage cells and would have rather come out with the win too(Madara is not fighting someone and letting that person beat him and in his & first Hokage fight, beat him half to death, from what he have said to the Kages). Madara just got his butt kick by the first Hokage, but still was able to get the first cells(I would think that Madara would had atleast cut the First, in their fight don't you), so repect the First Hokage power.
 

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THE only thing i'm looking forward too right now is Gai sensei going into Beast mode to protect Kakashi. That's gonna be epic. Im calling it first, Gai WILL DIE to protect kakashi, and then kakashi will go berserk mode kamui spam-bob-omb on Obito. Anybody seen the 8th gates open? We will soon enough! Why u think it was mentioned that you die if you opened it? It will be very emotional chapter indeed. I can picture Gai opening the 8th gate and looking back at Kakashi, and then Gai saying : "Don't think you will beat me to it" "Live and protect Naruto. Goodbye...(Guy and kakashi as kids fighting and playing together, competing at the chunnin tests, running, etc)....old friend"
I can see that scenario, too. :)

If Tsunade dies, and Kakashi dies for another reason I think they will offer Hokage position to Shikamaru first!
 

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My first post at the base. I need some feedback from you all on something that I feel strongly about.

So up till now, we have been assuming that Hashirama was the strongest shinobi. But now I am really starting to doubt it, and I have my reasons. Looking at Madara since his revival from Edo Tensei, his planning and his knowledge actually gives me the idea that Madara never fought Hashirama over power, his sole objective was to get Senju DNA and he planned for a very distant future, which he is giving us little information on right now.

All the secrets of the SO6P are on the Uchiha tablet that only Uchiha eyes can read, as we have continuously seen no Senju being aware of the history and secrets. I believe Madara had this planned before the battle of Hashirama. He wanted to take his DNA to conduct his plan for the future and finding Nagato & Obito was his luck and it all fitted his plan which of course is the Moon Eye plan.

Let me know what you guys think?
That mean genius that if Madara fought the first Hokage to get his cells, for two reason the first Hokage was powerful. First off Madara wanted a power up from getting the first cells, to get more chakra and the rinnigan, not the other way around(the first didn't fight Madara to get his EMS eye's for the sharingan vision & rinnigan power up which he could of did). The number two reason is, I would think that Madara would still been able to get the first Hokage cells and would have rather come out with the win too(Madara is not fighting someone and letting that person beat him and in his & first Hokage fight, beat him half to death, from what he have said to the Kages). Madara just got his butt kick by the first Hokage, but still was able to get the first cells(I would think that Madara would had atleast cut the First, in their fight don't you), so repect the First Hokage power.
 

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Manga is back to it's excitement.When madara shows up we are being like o.o.I join in that tsunade will die protecting other kages.We will be seeing how obito became like this on following episodes i think.
 

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What I don't get;

1. Why the F*** are madara and obito doing like talking to each other about their plan in front of their enemies. Are they really that confident?
2. If Madara was old guy who saved Obito, why is he revived in his young age form? Isn't he supposed to be revived old like the Chiyo? Because its the same jutsu that revived them...

Oh ..and also where is Orochimaru and Sasuke? are they at a motel or something like reminiscing the past? ..LOL
Dude I think everyone know about their plan already, where were you when Tobi Obito told the Kages about the moon eye plan and became the reason for the villages to come together for war. And Maybe another reason is Madara or Tobi Obito or both know the plan they told everyone, was just to mind F##k them and they have a real plan. Also Madara just kill all the Kages(so who really can stop him right now outside someone finding a way to bring back the first Hokage) and I don't think that he plan on letting Naruto and the other live, so bring it down a level.

I agree with you on Madara not being old, but Kishi try to fill that plot hole with Kabuto saiding he was able to bring Madara back in his prime and with the first Hokage cells. And Sasuke is about to go some where with Orochimaru and power up a level that surpass Madara and the next time he show up in a seen, Sasuke is going kill Tobi Obito or Madara, I bet the farm on it.

There is one or two many Uchiha right now, somebody got to go and it not going be Sasuke.
 
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That mean genius that if Madara fought the first Hokage to get his cells, for two reason the first Hokage was powerful. First off Madara wanted a power up from getting the first cells, to get more chakra and the rinnigan, not the other way around(the first didn't fight Madara to get his EMS eye's for the sharingan vision & rinnigan power up which he could of did). The number two reason is, I would think that Madara would still been able to get the first Hokage cells and would have rather come out with the win too(Madara is not fighting someone and letting that person beat him and in his & first Hokage fight, beat him half to death, from what he have said to the Kages). Madara just got his butt kick by the first Hokage, but still was able to get the first cells(I would think that Madara would had atleast cut the First, in their fight don't you), so repect the First Hokage power.
I agree.If Madara could have beat Hashirama he would have taken more DNA and made more than a brainless clone in a tree.
 
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Hi guys, I'm new on this forum and just signed up because i found something (that is in my opinion) interesting. In chapter 502 page 11 we see that Minato is fighting against Obito. Can this be right and is Obito old enough to be a grown up at that time? (I dont know for sure)

Then the next thing I saw: in chapter 590 page 11 we see Itatchi meeting Madara. And we see there that Madara actually helped Itatchi to kill the Uchiha clan...

Isn't it curious that Madara is still alive at that time but didn't fight Minato himself? Was he testing Obito?

Manga 601 was epic, I think that Tsunade's death is necessary for Naruto to become Hokage although 3th and 4th were hokage at the same time...

And still, Sasuke said in chapter 592 page 14 that Orochimaru knows everything. Still wondering what his connection with Madara and Obito was.
 

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That mean genius that if Madara fought the first Hokage to get his cells, for two reason the first Hokage was powerful. First off Madara wanted a power up from getting the first cells, to get more chakra and the rinnigan, not the other way around(the first didn't fight Madara to get his EMS eye's for the sharingan vision & rinnigan power up which he could of did). The number two reason is, I would think that Madara would still been able to get the first Hokage cells and would have rather come out with the win too(Madara is not fighting someone and letting that person beat him and in his & first Hokage fight, beat him half to death, from what he have said to the Kages). Madara just got his butt kick by the first Hokage, but still was able to get the first cells(I would think that Madara would had atleast cut the First, in their fight don't you), so repect the First Hokage power.
You are spot on. I did not mean to disrespect Hashirama, and I am not suggesting that he was any less powerful than Madara. What I meant was that like it has been perceived up till now that Hashirama beat Madara, I am only questioning that maybe those two were actually on par and Madara knew he could not have defeated Hashirama, but his objective was never to win.

I don't want to start a debate between the powers of Hashirama and Madara, I am just curious whether Madara had this planned before the battle with Hashirama or did he cook up this plan after his fight. That's all!
 
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I swear that if Tsunade dies, I ****ing quit the manga. I mean, it's too convinent. I agree that Madara is OP and stuff like that, but hell, Kishi is contradicting his own ****ing traits!

I have already accepted that Obito is Tobi, but if Tsunade dies, I'm quitting! She didn't died from a FULL SHINRA TENSEI and Heavenly Transfer Jutsu who was supposed to shred her to pieces and she dies FROM A TREE?! Are you ****ing serious Kishi? Your logic is ****ed-up! Plus, who the hell is going to be there to teach Sakura? Going down with her development as a character? Well, isn't that great? Everybody gets OP, she gets nothing. I am already sick of Kishi's way of writing.

Plus, he's as well underpowering Naruto. He could blew mountains and he cannot blow a fan? Seriously now, Kishi?

I already said it, the next Naruto chapter will be defining for me.
really naruto underpowered, that's redunculous and as for sakura's training;who gives a rats ass.kishi's a boss
 

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really naruto underpowered, that's redunculous and as for sakura's training;who gives a rats ass.kishi's a boss
Compared to Madara, at the moment, yes.
Sakura, I do and some other people. You got any problem with that?
Oh, my! Excuse me that this manga is done from other characters than just Naruto.
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