Nagato must have awakened his Rinnegan naturally

[KidGamer65]

How could Nagato have awakened it when the Elder Son's side had the eyes not the Younger Son's side, and Nagato is from the younger son's side?

Madara most likely gave Nagato something that let him awaken it.

 

[Wparker6804]

Maybe but unlikely

Well, my hypothosis was Madara gave him those eyes and Obito claimed to be the one who did it, since he was under the guise of madara uchiha.

 

[Wparker6804]

They were transplanted! Madara gave him those eyes!!!

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

there was no way dat nagato could unlock renegan for the only reason madara choose him was bcos he was uzumaki and clearly its only an uzumaki member that could take the power of renegan so i,d say madara only used a facade

 

[the dark one]

The sage of the 6 paths had the rinnegan he passed them to his sons even if the younger one(senju) didn't have it, it is still posible considering he has the same blood passed on to him and uzumaki is related to the senju so it is posible.

 

[Bigg G]

How can Madara have Sharringan when he met Obito if he gave his eyes to Nagato?

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Not because he said he gave Nagato the Rinnengan means that Madara actually gave him his own eyes. Maybe he just awakened the Rinnengan within him, like Itachi did Sasuke's Mongeko. Itachi only touched Sasuke on the head, and that was it, Sasuke had the Mongeko ever since that day. I highly doubt that Madara actually plucked out a little kids eyes and put in his own. Don't you think that Nagato would have noticed that, or even his parents. Don't think to literal all the time. Its obvious Nagato's body can accommodate the Rinnengan (i dont know if that means that you just need to be one of the descendents of the sage of six paths, eg. Uchiha, Senju, Uzimake, or a mixture of them), so maybe Madara just awakened it. If he just awakened it, that could have happened by the transfer of DNA as well as by just a touch, like Itatchi did, who knows. One thing i doubt though, and that is Madara plucking out a kids eyes and putting in his own.

 

[jnr3000]

When Madara had the sharringan Nagato already had the Rinngean for about 10 years try again bro


Lol how is it possible for Madara to give the Rinnegan without the sharringan its one eye

lmao!! eye techniques are different from the eyes themselves. thats how come itachi was able to transfer his techs to sasuke. but tobi had to transplant the eyes after the battle with kakashi and naruto.

 

[jnr3000]

the stone crushed obito during the 3rd ninja war... jiraiya trained nagato, konan and yahiko around that time. and nagato showed he had the rinnegan then... madara couldnt have had possibly given it to him

 

[Uzimaki Akira]

Simple Obito lied. He claimed He gave Nagato the rinnegan which is complete BS. Nagato might come from a direct genetic branch of Rikoudo Sennin and so he possessed the trait. Don't forget that the Manga states that Nagato was an Uzimaki and i'm of the belief that the Uzimaki clan are the by product of an Uchiha and Senju union.

 

[Hokage emmanuel]

Ofcos he did awaken the rinnegan...who's saying otherwise?

 

[Uzimaki Akira]

They were transplanted! Madara gave him those eyes!!!

How if he was trapped in the plane between worlds? When did he have the time, he wasn't resurrected til just now. I think it was Zetsu, why does everyone overlook him?..
Maybe because Kishi wants us to run around in circles til he drops the real bomb and unveils the ultimate twist. Zetsu is the key.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Madara can easily take eyes from others. For example, OBITO Lost his right eye on that boulder and Madara gave him the eye ( We can see Obito has one Right eye in the last chapter of newest manga ) even though he told he was totaly crushed and the eye is one of the weakest points. Madara has not one pair of eyes that's for sure.

He probably got that eye from the uchiha massacre afterwards

Here is what I think about Nagato and his Rinnegan.

First of all, it seems unlikely that Madara was able to give Nagato his own Rinnegan as transplants. From what we saw in this week's chapter, Madara was extremely old when he saved Obito from his death. Nagato is much older than Obito, which would not make sense if he 'awakened' them when he was a child.

My thoughts on this particular subject is that Nagato was shown to be a master at the Rinnegan. If we compare him to Kakashi for example, the mastery of Kakashi's transplanted Sharingan versus the mastery of Nagato's Rinnegan are on different levels. Kakashi is not able to access the many available techniques that Sharingan provides, yet Nagato has the ability to access every Rinne technique. Also when someone like Obito transplanted a Rinnegan into his eye, he was not able to have the complete mastery of the Doujutsu either. These two examples are not on par with the strength of ocular prowess that Nagato has shown with the Rinnegan.

Maybe instead of directly giving him the eyes, Madara could have given him some of his DNA instead. The combination of Uchiha and Uzumaki(Senju) DNA would allow him to 'awaken' the Rinnegan through his natural ability, thus eliminating the fact that Madara would have to give him his own eyes.

Either way, Rinnegan directly given to Nagato or not, Madara has a collection of Sharingan available to replace his eyes if needed.

I can agree broadly with this apart from the last sentence the uchiha massacre hadnt even of happened yet so he didnt have spare uchiha eyes laying about

the stone crushed obito during the 3rd ninja war... jiraiya trained nagato, konan and yahiko around that time. and nagato showed he had the rinnegan then... madara couldnt have had possibly given it to him

Nagato was born in the 2nd great ninja war
Obito was trapped under the rock at the end of the 3rd great ninja war

 

[jnr3000]

Simple Obito lied. He claimed He gave Nagato the rinnegan which is complete BS. Nagato might come from a direct genetic branch of Rikoudo Sennin and so he possessed the trait. Don't forget that the Manga states that Nagato was an Uzimaki and i'm of the belief that the Uzimaki clan are the by product of an Uchiha and Senju union.

yup yup!! "tobito" lied about a lot of stuff

 

[Priyam Bhowmick]

***CONFUSED***
Maybe he took another Uchiha eye or somethng.
However thngs would get more clearer soon...Wait till then.

 

[~MC117~]

Nagato is older then Obito and had them when he was a kid

I didn't said that obito gave them to him, I said that madara might have given them to him when he was a kid.

 

[jnr3000]

He probably got that eye from the uchiha massacre afterwards

I can agree broadly with this apart from the last sentence the uchiha massacre hadnt even of happened yet so he didnt have spare uchiha eyes laying about


Nagato was born in the 2nd great ninja war
Obito was trapped under the rock at the end of the 3rd great ninja war

yeah my bad, my point is if he had the eyes then, how is it possible that madara gave them to him, because he had no reason to fight for peace back then. he obviously had it when his parents were attacked

 

[Kira was Righteous]

I didn't said that obito gave them to him, I said that madara might have given them to him when he was a kid.

Madara would be blind speaking to Obito
Madara unlocked them shortly before his death which isnt 10 years plus lol when Nagato unlocked the rinnegan at the start of the previous war

yeah my bad, my point is if he had the eyes then, how is it possible that madara gave them to him, because he had no reason to fight for peace back then. he obviously had it when his parents were attacked

Well your guess is as good as mine perhaps Madara is his father and he gave them through his genes
Perhaps Madara set the whole thing up and the hidden leaf shinobi were zetsu clones
Perhaps its the other way round and his parents were zetsu clones and his real parent wernt there aka the Madara and Mito theory

I have no idea though being honest im waiting for a quick explanation from Kishi

 

[jnr3000]

Madara would be blind speaking to Obito
Madara unlocked them shortly before his death which isnt 10 years plus lol when Nagato unlocked the rinnegan at the start of the previous war


Well your guess is as good as mine perhaps Madara is his father and he gave them through his genes
Perhaps Madara set the whole thing up and the hidden leaf shinobi were zetsu clones
Perhaps its the other way round and his parents were zetsu clones and his real parent wernt there aka the Madara and Mito theory

I have no idea though being honest im waiting for a quick explanation from Kishi

yup, kishi is the only one who knows how he really got that

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

If the Rinnegan truely is the extension of the Sharingan, saying Nagato awakened it naturally is like saying you can awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan without unlocking the 3 tomoe first. Why did Kishimoto choose to hide Nagato's eyes before revealing the dojutsu he possessed? Nagato couldn't even turn his Rinnegan

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after he died; a MAJOR trait of a transplanted eye. I don't see how much clearer it can be. The only issue here is the timeline, but even that has not been totally destroyed because 'shortly (before my death)' is a vague term.

How do u know he couldn't turn it off it has never been stated. Itachi never turned his mygeku off...
U fail to relize nagato was using the six paths of pain everytime we seen him (except when he got revived)
So why would he turn it off he turn it off the bodies would turn off too what since would tht make if he use them to fight smh
Tobi couldn't have given nagato rinnigan simply cuz nagato is about 10 years older then him madara may have given it to him but with this new chapter he had his eyes still honestly only reason madara can turn off his rinnigan I'ds because he has two dojutsu sharigan and rinnigan so Idc what anybody says nagato awakened them untill future notice when it says in manga after EMS rinnigan happens I will eat my words

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

You may be right about the eye been able to switch between rennigan and sharingan even though it is transplanted but it still doesn't get rid of the part that nagato had his eyes transplanted. Madara did not transplant his rennigan and yet he is able to use sharingan tech with his reningan, it is proof that the rennigan is related to the sharingan and to the Uchiha

What sharigan tech r u talking bout PS its not stated yet tht it's a sharigan tech I mean yeah Susanno seems to come from shariganbut everybody has to REMEBER Susanno is a spiritual presence tht shows what ur would or w.e should look like I mean madara still had his rinnigan when he did it when he wanted to use sharigan he had to switch it so why shouldnt he have to do it with PS it seems fishy but I think honestly rinnigan creates PS or madara created it himself cuz MS u get Susanno shouldn't EMS be PS ???
Also take into the fact tht madara should be 100+ till the manga is too today do his blood is more pure (closer to the SO6P bloodline) then an uchia from today like itachi or sasuke... So maybe Thts why hes able to do it Susanno is spiritual weapon and SO6P was a monk so he most likely had PS as well madara had to train his whole life right before he died for the sage eyes madara shouldn't even know all the techs seeing as he died right after achieving them(rinnigan techs) they say u can do anything with tht eye create anything u want