Nagato must have awakened his Rinnegan naturally

[OnPoint]

I think its the other way round buddy. Rinnegan is not an "extension" of the sharingan. The sharingan is a watered down version of the rinnegan. The rinnegan came before the sharingan.
Oh and if Nagato's eyes were transplanted why doesnt he have the other sharingan abilities.

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"So the Sharingan could really get to...the Rinnegan."

Sharingan -> Progression -> Rinnegan

And him not being able to use Sharingan techniques is also another MAJOR reason why it seems he has transplanted eyes. A transplanted eye cannot be turned off or moved 'backward'; For example, Kakashi cannot turn his 3 tomoe Sharingan off, but he's able to move it 'forward' into the Mangekyou Sharingan (though he unlocked that dojutsu himself). There is nothing beyond the Rinnegan so Nagato couldn't 'upgrade' his eyes. But Nagato, like Kakashi, could not move his eyes 'backward' - he couldn't revert them back to the EMS nor could he completely switch them off.

 

[Sexy Steel]

tobi is a bitchass liar and a punk hiding behing a mask
just because the manga didn't specifically say it doesn't mean it's not true
plus don't believe everything the manga says* cough* *cough* kabuto saying hes the closest to he so6p *cough* *cough*

i have manga prove either u believe it or not is not up to me, you have brought only assumptions

 

[TrollingSage]

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"So the Sharingan could really get to...the Rinnegan."

Sharingan -> Progression -> Rinnegan

And him not beting able to use Sharingan techniques is also another MAJOR reason why it seems he has transplanted eyes. A transplanted eye cannot be turned off or moved 'backward'; For example, Kakashi cannot turn his 3 tomoe Sharingan off, but he's able to move it 'forward' into the Mangekyou Sharingan (though he unlocked that dojutsu himself). There is nothing beyond the Rinnegan so Nagato couldn't 'upgrade' his eyes. But Nagato, like Kakashi, could not move his eyes 'backward' - he couldn't revert them back to the EMS nor could he completely switch them off.

Well like I said the sharingan is a watered down version of the sage's eyes.
Madara was able to revert it back to the original through an unknown process. Your scan doesnt really disprove anything
I've said so far. Oh and btw Danzu stole shisui's MS and he was still able to switch back to normal sharingan
So Nagato should have been able to switch to EMS if he had Madara's eyes.

 

[10023213]

i have manga prove either u believe it or not is not up to me, you have brought only assumptions

it is not an assumption that nagato was not shown to be given any uchicha dna nor did it show madara giving him the rinnegan nor is anything else specified about the uzumakis. It has been confirmed though that tobi as a liar

 

[Sexy Steel]

I think its the other way round buddy. Rinnegan is not an "extension" of the sharingan. The sharingan is a watered down version of the rinnegan. The rinnegan came before the sharingan.
Oh and if Nagato's eyes were transplanted why doesnt he have the other sharingan abilities.

exactly it was transplanted, he had no experience of using the sharingan only rennigan, where as madara had sharingan and rennigan, they are intertwined with each other that is why he is able to use susano and still have the rennigan active, madara is an example of how the sharingan and rennigan are the same eyes but rennigan is the advance form (opens other new techs similar to MS)

 

[OnPoint]

Well like I said the sharingan is a watered down version of the sage's eyes.
Madara was able to revert it back to the original through an unknown process. Your scan doesnt really disprove anything
I've said so far. Oh and btw Danzu stole shisui's MS and he was still able to switch back to normal sharingan
So Nagato should have been able to switch to EMS if he had Madara's eyes.

How do you know Danzou didn't steal Shisui's eye when it was a 3 tomoe? It would make sense that he'd switch off the eye if he could since it would not waste as much chakra. But he couldn't.

 

[Sexy Steel]

Well like I said the sharingan is a watered down version of the sage's eyes.
Madara was able to revert it back to the original through an unknown process. Your scan doesnt really disprove anything
I've said so far. Oh and btw Danzu stole shisui's MS and he was still able to switch back to normal sharingan
So Nagato should have been able to switch to EMS if he had Madara's eyes.

can i see a page of danzou reverting back to sharingan ?

itachi had shisui eyes why hasn;t it ever been shown to revert back to sharingan?

 

[Strict]

I don't believe that Madara gave his eyes next to Nagato literally, especially since we saw latter awakening the Rinnegan by himself. Madara could have transplanted his Rinnegan via a special technique and let him awake this technique thereby. The Rinnegan is the evolution of the Sharingan, how an Uzumaki could awake the last stage of the Sharingan, or rather the Doujutsu beyond? Nagato was a part of Obitos and Madaras plan, latter awakened the Rinnegan by himself and former, who was supposed to be Madara, claimed that he give the Rinnegan next to him. We have to read the next few chapters for being enlightened.

 

[TrollingSage]

How do you know Danzou didn't steal Shisui's eye when it was a 3 tomoe? It would make sense that he'd switch off the eye if he could since it would not waste as much chakra. But he couldn't.

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He says Danzu stole his eyes when he tried to use K.A. And he still had his MS on when he was talking to Itachi.
And about Nagato never turning off his rinnegan, neither did Itachi. He was only shown without his sharingan on in the Uchiha massacre flashback.

can i see a page of danzou reverting back to sharingan ?

itachi had shisui eyes why hasn;t it ever been shown to revert back to sharingan?

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[Sexy Steel]

it is not an assumption that nagato was not shown to be given any uchicha dna nor did it show madara giving him the rinnegan nor is anything else specified about the uzumakis. It has been confirmed though that tobi as a liar

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so ur saying tobi was lying about the sage having 2 sons that inherited his traits ?

 

[OnPoint]

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He says Danzu stole his eyes when he tried to use K.A. And he still had his MS on when he was talking to Itachi.

How does this prove the eye was taken as a MS? IIRC, Shisui said his eye was taken when he tried to prevent the Coup with his KA; it never said his eye was taken literally the moment he used the technique.

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[10023213]

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so ur saying tobi was lying about the sage having 2 sons that inherited his traits ?

really? what im saying is tobi lies about a lot of things and can't be trusted about a lot of things

 

[New Era]

nagato is madara son they all look alike

tobi has just been pretending to be madara he has been accurate so far.

so yes nagato getting a rinnegan trait would be from madara if madara was his father

 

[10023213]

^^^lol so madara is an uzumaki?

omg i'm so excited.....does that mean uzumakis can not only get rinnegan and sharingan but there also the bodies toxd

 

[Gryphus]

nagato is madara son they all look alike

tobi has just been pretending to be madara he has been accurate so far.

so yes nagato getting a rinnegan trait would be from madara if madara was his father

Huh, so if Madara was his father he would be justified to be badass and just skip over 3 stages and get the ultimate doujutsu seems legit xD

 

[New Era]

^^^lol so madara is an uzumaki?

omg i'm so excited.....does that mean uzumakis can not only get rinnegan and sharingan but there also the bodies toxd

he doesn't have to be he just gave nagato that name for all we know 45 years ago madara could have married an uzumaki who eventually died as well.

 

[Djokovic]

You're logic fails, If he gave his "Eyes" away he would be blind .... I doubt he can beat people up blind ... So it would be more logical if he went "Shopping" before!

You seriously think Madara cant take out a fodder Uchiha without his eyes?

 

[TrollingSage]

How does this prove the eye was taken as a MS? IIRC, Shisui said his eye was taken when he tried to prevent the Coup with his KA; it never said his eye was taken literally the moment he used the technique.

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The way he said kind of implies his eyes were stolen when he was using the tech. In any case nowhere in the manga does it state you cant switch a transplanted eyes into its "downgraded" form. Kakashi got Obito's eyes as a 3 tomoe, he upgraded it to 3 tomoe and later M.S. He's able to switch between MS and sharingan, there's no logical reason why Nagato shouldnt be able to switch between sharingan and rinnegan if his eyes were transplanted.

You seriously think Madara cant take out a fodder Uchiha without his eyes?

Lets see. He's an Uchiha meaning 99% of his power comes from his eyes and he has no sensing skills meaning he wont even be able to find a target without his yes. Yea Madara cant take out even Konohamaru without his eyes. Heck he wont even be able to swat a fly.

 

[Sexy Steel]

The way he said kind of implies his eyes were stolen when he was using the tech. In any case nowhere in the manga does it state you cant switch a transplanted eyes into its "downgraded" form. Kakashi got Obito's eyes as a 3 tomoe, he upgraded it to 3 tomoe and later M.S. He's able to switch between MS and sharingan, there's no logical reason why Nagato shouldnt be able to switch between sharingan and rinnegan if his eyes were transplanted.

Lets see. He's an Uchiha meaning 99% of his power comes from his eyes and he has no sensing skills meaning he wont even be able to find a target without his yes. Yea Madara cant take out even Konohamaru without his eyes. Heck he wont even be able to swat a fly.

You may be right about the eye been able to switch between rennigan and sharingan even though it is transplanted but it still doesn't get rid of the part that nagato had his eyes transplanted. Madara did not transplant his rennigan and yet he is able to use sharingan tech with his reningan, it is proof that the rennigan is related to the sharingan and to the Uchiha

 

[Kira was Righteous]

exactly it was transplanted, he had no experience of using the sharingan only rennigan, where as madara had sharingan and rennigan, they are intertwined with each other that is why he is able to use susano and still have the rennigan active, madara is an example of how the sharingan and rennigan are the same eyes but rennigan is the advance form (opens other new techs similar to MS)

If Nagato could use the Rinnegan he can use the sharringan just like how Kakashi can deactivate his MS to 3 tomoe even though its not his and there is no proof to the contrary unless you would care to link it.What is clear is that it cannot be transplanted from what we know and wether that means Nagato got the Rinnegan from nothing or had a sharringan to begin with i cannot say

Its likely that if Pain started using sharringan abilities it would make him more haxxed and people would be asking why he can do it and speculating

Anyway i do not have all the answers i just know that Nagato cannot have had his Rinnegan transplanted if Madara was roaming around with the eyes 10 years later

What this means could be anything thats why i dont enjoy speculating about it