Suna vs Iwa

Who wins?

  • Suna High Difficulty

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Suna Low Difficulty

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Iwa High Difficulty

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Iwa Low Difficulty

    Votes: 3 37.5%

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Nazgul

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Muu, Onoki, Akatsuchi, Kurtotsuchi, Kitsuchi, Deidara,

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4th Kazekage, Gaara, Temari, Konkuro, Chiyo, Sasori, 3rd Kazekage

Location - Destroyed Konoha
Distance - 30m
Knowledge - Manga
Mindset - IC, To kill
Restrictions - None
Conditions - All in prime state, No one is EDO

Suna has one extra but Iwa has Jinton. Who wins?
 
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I'd say Iwa wins with medium difficulty.
Kutotscuchi/Akatsuchi would have hard fights with Kankuro/Temari -> this would be most tensive fight.
Onoki could easily win against 3rd Kazekage and Gaara.
Kitsuchi should win against 4th Kazekage.
Muu wins against Sasori.
Deidara wins against Chiyo.

Just my opinion.
 
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Sasori beats deidara,as deidara already admitted himself inferior to sasori,temari with katamari,kankuro with all his acquired puppets and chiyo shoyld be able to overpower akatsuchi,kurotsuchi and kitsuchi,gaara,his dad and 3rd kazekage would take muu and onoki,jinton users apparently need to stay still to form jinton,gaara was fast enough to move inbetween muu and onoki before muu formed jinton,and his sand moves at very fast speeds,3rd and 4th kazekages use jiton,so magnetic force of repulsion would make their attacks go much faster,sessor sand/gold dust/iron sand to find muu(the kazekages copied shukaku jins,so they probably have it),also all 3 kazekages can flood the environment in an instant,not to mention onoki and muu wont really have the luxury for jinton when there is sand,iron sand and gold dust flying around all over the place,the kazekages can also fly as well.

I'd say suna very high diff.
 

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Contrary to what some people belie^e, this isn't a 1 on 1 fight between hand picked members so their favorite team can win. Anyway regardless, this is a very very bad stomp match in favor of Iwa.
 

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I'll go with Suna because jinton users have to be stationary and contrary to popular belief, jinton is not unstoppable. The sand/magnet release users can bind Onoki and Mu's hands to stop them from forming jinton. Also the rest of the weaker shinobi of the sand are stronger than those of Iwa if we look at this from a feats perspective.

Flight can also help evade jinton but I don't think anyone from Suna is fast enough to avoid it. There best bet is to stop it from forming which I am sure they can. Mu is a tough one though because of his invisibility so if Suna does win the match, it will be with extreme difficulty. If Gaara puts enough sensory sand, he will know where Mu is so they should be able to beat him as well.
 

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Muu and Onoki are too strong even for the 3 kazekages.

Iwa mid difficulty.
 
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Suna high diff. Temari's wind+ chiyo's and kankuro's poison will get akatsuchi,kurotsuchi and kitsuchi,not to mention kiri mae basically oneshots quite a few of them,deidara already claimed sasori was much stronger than himself.

Onoki and muu may have jinton,but if oyu have noticed,they need to stand still,form it and then fire it,gaara,his dad and the 3rd kazekage arent gonna watch that happen,especially with gaara's knowledge on jinton,all the kages here can fly,and gaara can easily sense muu,who needs to become visible to attack,gold dust and iron sand will prove too much for the tsuchikages to avoid,especially with onoki's little stature,not to mention that all kazekages basically use the same techs,and their attacks are very fast(3rd and 4th kazekage can use magnetic force of attraction to instantly summon gold dust/iron sand,and then repulsion to send them flying towards the kages at fast speeds,gaara's sand is easily one of the fastest things here as well,sand hail+gold dust hail+iron sand hail will definatelly get the other kages,or iron sand drizzle+sand arms+ gold dust hail also works. Sand sensing finds muu and c4 if deidara manages to use it,and temari can blow it back at him.

Temari's wind and the puppeteers poison would take out the kage guards and the other one,sasori beats deidara,3 kazekages beat muu and onoki.

Suna wins high diff.
 

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mu literally solos. theres nothing any of them can do to stop him. especially if he takes gaara out in the first jinton salvo. and none of them have a counter for C4 except sasori who doesnt need to breath

then fire it,gaara,his dad and the 3rd kazekage arent gonna watch that happen,
muu is a sensor. if he needs to he can dodge attacks. and he once commented his attack is faster than gaara and onokis speed.
The sand/magnet release users can bind Onoki and Mu's hands to stop them from forming jinton
they have to find muu first. and onoki can take out the kazekages by touching them and their sand. if the sand is too heavy they cant control it can they?

Sand sensing finds muu and c4 if deidara manages to use it,and temari can blow it back at him.
knowing its there doesnt mean they will automically decide to blow it away and none of them have lightning
 
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mu literally solos. theres nothing any of them can do to stop him. especially if he takes gaara out in the first jinton salvo. and none of them have a counter for C4 except sasori who doesnt need to breath

muu is a sensor. if he needs to he can dodge attacks. and he once commented his attack is faster than gaara and onokis speed.
they have to find muu first. and onoki can take out the kazekages by touching them and their sand. if the sand is too heavy they cant control it can they?

knowing its there doesnt mean they will automically decide to blow it away and none of them have lightning

muu solos?,come on.there are already counters to jinton above.

1) gaara isnt the only one attacking,he will be dodging sand iron sand gold dust all coming very fast. He never said his attack was faster than gaara's speed,gaara got inbetween him and onoki before he could form jinton and was abt to attack yntil he saw naruto from behind,muu claimed that his jinton would hit naruto before naruto hit him with a rasengan,but we saw that gaara was able to make a sand wedge to aid naruto in hitting muu,here there are 3 kazekages who can all intercept him before he uses jinton. How is onoki ever going to get close enough to do that?,he will be shred to pieces if he tries that,and only gaara uses sand,his dad uses gold dust and 3rd kazekage uses iron.

2) they dont have lightening,but they have wind to blow it back at deidara,temari,sasori,gaara,chiyo etc are all very smart,temari will use her wind tech to deflect it back at deidara's team,not to mention katamari can just attack multiple opponents at once.
 

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accidently voted suna .. but iwa crushes the sand
 

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2) they dont have lightening,but they have wind to blow it back at deidara
they cant blow it back because its microscopic and wouldnt repel all of it.
your underestimating onoki. he can block sand with a stone golem or stone clones. and he can turn the sand to useless rock by increasing the weight.
muu wont let himself be located by gaaras sand since hed be flying
 

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Muu dodged KM Naruo without even seeing the guy, I don't think the sand is going to get him before he gets his jinton off. Jinton will wipe out anyone if it hits, and none of these suna shinobi are fast. Sand isn't going to protect you from jinton.
 

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Muu dodged KM Naruo without even seeing the guy, I don't think the sand is going to get him before he gets his jinton off. Jinton will wipe out anyone if it hits, and none of these suna shinobi are fast. Sand isn't going to protect you from jinton.

muu dodged a single attack,gaara can attack at multiple levels,and his sand isnt the only thing coming,gold dust and iron sand manipulated by jiton are all coming at once,i dont think he can dodge them all.

Jinton requires the user to stay still,and some time to form it,gaara was able to get inbetweem muu and onoki before muu could form jinton despite being a distance back,also when he dodged naruto,he had to do his jinton over again and form it which allowed gaara and naruto to double team on him,he needs to stay still to form it,which is near impossible seeing as he has 3 guys that can manipulate incredible volumes of their respective tools to attack at once,all three kazekages can most likely fly as well,and gaara has proved fast in the air,also,gaara needed to hold the kages together for onoki to attack wih jinton,muu also told them to dodge his jinton when he thought that hsi attack would be faster,since al 5 kages are flying,in the unlikely scenario that a jinton is shot,they can fly away and out of the way. Also jinton turns anything it hits to dust right?,then what if the kazekages fire their attacks,maybe sand/iron sand/gold dust drizzle all at the same time at the jinton halfway,it will detonate there right?,just like bunta and shukaku,shukaku was stronger,but bunta used his attack to cause shukaku's own to explode mid flight,they can do something similar right?. Also if muu goes invisible,he cant attack,and gaara can still sense him,which wont be very good for him.
 
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they cant blow it back because its microscopic and wouldnt repel all of it.
your underestimating onoki. he can block sand with a stone golem or stone clones. and he can turn the sand to useless rock by increasing the weight.
muu wont let himself be located by gaaras sand since hed be flying

becaise they are microscopic,the wind will blow them back,the wind is a factor for c4,deidara releases it and stays out of it's range area,and he does it if the wind supports it otherwise it will blow back in his face,temari controls the wind,she could make a cyclone and all the bombs will be drawn and then easily redirect it back a the opponents.

Onoki wont be able to make any sand useless without touching it,and gaara will then attack him with other parts of sand and kill him,gaara can easily turn the rock back to sand anway,that's what he does isnt it?,rock clones wont do well against sand that changes form,as it can easily slither around the rock and attack onoki,and gaara has his own share of sand clones and giant sculptures.

Gaara's sand sensing is almost undetectable,and gaara already found muu both on the ground when he was approaching and flying as well when he was abt to attack onoki,the longer muu stays invisible and cant attack,the longer onoki gets attacked and weakened
 
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