Debate: Danzo or Pain

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This is a Genjutsu Danzo uses to cast on himself instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of Genjutsu. When activated, he removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within his personal space. While he remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon himself while the technique is active into mere illusions. Whenever he receives a fatal injury, he automatically fades away as though he were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality; physically real and unscathed.


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Danzo gained access to this Dojutsu by taking and later implanting Shisui's Sharingan into his own right eye socket while Shisui was still alive. This the ultimate Genjutsu granted by Shisui Uchiha's Mangekyo Sharingan. The technique itself allows the user to enter the opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will. It is regarded as a Genjutsu of the highest class, due to the victim being entirely unaware that they are being manipulated.


Note: Kotoamatsukami can only be used once a day.

Danzo waves his hand and creates multiple blades of wind, which combine to form a single, large blade of air. The technique was powerful enough to stop Susanoo's movements.

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Danzo exhales wind-infused chakra onto a weapon in order to increase its sharpness, range and lethality.

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Danzo takes a deep breath and then exhales several small blasts of wind chakra in such a manner that they are dispersed over an expansive range, enough to make it difficult to avoid them entirely without taking any damage.



A stronger version of the Wind Release: Vacuum Sphere technique, where Danzo instead chooses to compress the entirety of the previously inhaled breath into a single large, crushing sphere of wind chakra that he then proceed to expel from his mouth.



Danzo takes a deep breath and exhales several blades of wind at different angles, by rapidly moving his head in various directions. The power of this technique can be dramatically enhanced when utilized in conjunction with the effects of extreme suction, such as that generated by the Baku, where the augmented attack proved effective enough to even slice through the defenses of a complete Susanoo.



Danzo takes a deep breath and spins while exhaling, compressing the released air into a solitary blade of wind that covers a substantial area around him, due to his circular motion. The resulting sharpened blast is large enough to slice through multiple targets located a significant distance from him, causing grievous injuries to those hit.



The Baku is said in legend to be able to devour dreams and nightmares, a fact that Tobi also echoed. When it opens its mouth and inhales, it can create a powerful suction that sucks in everything within a large radius, while at the same time exhaling through its trunk. Danzo uses this suction in conjunction with his own Wind Release techniques to amplify their power.

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This technique is a fūinjutsu that Danzo places across his chest, and sets it to activate upon his death. The technique releases four symbols from his body that then forms a large, black sphere around him. Anything caught inside the sphere's area is then drawn in and sealed within his corpse.

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Pain

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This Path grants Pain the ability to summon various creatures. Each animal summon also has the Rinnegan and as such Nagato is able to see through their eyes as well.

Summons
  • Giant Drill-Beaked Bird
  • Giant Multi-Headed Dog
  • Giant Snake-Tailed Chameleon
  • Giant Panda
  • Giant Ox
  • Giant Rhino
  • Giant Crustacean
  • Giant Centipede
  • The other Paths of Pain

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This Path grants Pain the ability to summon mechanized armor, augmenting his body with extra limbs and various robotic weaponry.

Derived Jutsu
  • Chakra Cannon
    "With the body modifications of the Asura Path, Pain can open parts of his body to reveal a cannon that fires a massive blast of chakra with explosive power strong enough to devastate an entire area."
  • Chakra Propulsion
    "After the modifications of the Asura Path, Pain can open the soles of their feet and launch themselves forward in a linear direction."
  • Flaming Arrow Missiles
    "After the body modifications of the Asura Path, Pain can disconnect his hand, pulling out at thin cord with missiles attached to it. These missiles can be fired at random for a large area of effect or can home in onto a target."
  • Flaming Arrow of Amazing Ability
    "After the body modification done by the Asura Path, this technique launches a detached part of an arm, using it as a projectile weapon. With a small-scale explosion, caused by chakra collected in the cut end of the wrist, the hand portion gains propulsive power and flies off in a straight line with tremendous force. Its destructive power is great enough to easily break through even thick bedrock. The hand portion is protected with chakra, which allows it to remain unscathed. The chakra in the wrist draws the hand back like a magnet, reattaching it again."

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This Path grants Pain the ability to manipulate attractive and repulsive gravitational forces of objects or people. These techniques, however, cannot be performed in rapid succession where Pain must wait at least 5 seconds to perform again. The Deva Path also grants another ability: Chibaku Tensei which allows Pain to create a huge makeshift terrestrial body from all the surrounding matter that is attracted to a black sphere released by this technique.

Derived Jutsu

  • Banshō Ten'in
    "This is a technique that manipulates attractive force at Pains will to pull matter towards him. It has the same five second limit as the Shinra Tensei."
  • Chibaku Tensei
    "Pain creates a dark black sphere of gravity that when thrown into the sky, attracts objects from all directions and pulls them into the sphere compressing them simultaneously. The surrounding earth, including forests and mountains, are collected into a single point, piling on top of one another until it creates a large sphere."
  • Shinra Tensei
    "Grants Pain the ability to manipulate repulsive force at will to push matter or ninja techniques away. Depending on the amount of force Pain puts in this technique, it can easily shatter wood, bones, metal, or stone walls. By using this technique as a defensive measure, all attacks directed at Pain will be deflected, no matter the size, power or mass. The only downside to this technique is that there is a short period when it is unusable after being used. The minimal time period is about five seconds, but it varies depending on the amount of power put into the attack."

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The Naraka Path ability makes heavy use of the King of Hell. The King of Hell is a large head which sprouts out of the ground surrounded by purple flames. It also possesses the Rinnegan as well as the shared field of vision along with the other summons. The King of Hell could fulfill two purposes: interrogation and restoration.

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Grants Pain the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal. This ability was primarily defensive in nature as it is capable of absorbing most Ninjutsu based techniques, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique can also take the form of a barrier around Pains entire body, allowing him to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to this the Preta Path is able to absorb chakra from an individual through physical contact.

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Soul Removal; This grants Pain the ability to remove the soul of any target he touches and with this ability he is able to read the minds of his targets simply by placing his hand on the target's head, and could extract any information or secret being hidden by the victim against their will. However, using the technique will inevitably pull the soul out of the target's body, causing instant death.

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Scenario
Danzo never killed Kosuke, so Naruto never found out Konoha was under attack by Pain and continued his training and had not returned to the viliage. Tsunade used up all her chakra protecting the citizens and Donzo intercepted Asura Path attacking her instead and then began to fight Pain to save the village.
 
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Pain wins mid diff, unless KA works (which I don't think works on Pain).
 

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Pain takes this my friend.. But, this somehow made me like Danzo great job +rep.
 

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If KA works, Danzo
If not, Pain mid-high dif.
 

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pain will kick danzo d*ck because danzo is OP over pretending to be strong thats why he will lose to pain
 

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KA works, but he can only use it once
 

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Yeah if Ka works on one path (and since all paths are connected to Nagato) he wins. If not rape season for Danzou.
 

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If he's fighting Nagato then Danzo wins due to KA. If he's fighting Pain then Pain wins because they're... ya know... Dead bodies. They have no minds that could be controlled by KA.
 

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Ya'll are under estimating Danzo, he does have Izanagi 10x, Sasuke only survived because of Susanoo.
 

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Kotoamatsukami can be used more than once. There's just a cooldown.
 

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Kotoamatsukami can be used more than once. There's just a cooldown.

Once a day I forgot to add.

Just a thought everyone, but should Fu and Torune be added to Danzo's side since they were his personal body guards?
 

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nagato wins mid difficulty

but:

> danzo's summonings could take on pain's summonings
> danzo attacks consist of chakra which preta path will abosrb
> mechanical path will bombard danzo with missiles
> strong path, taking your soul path, and Yahiko path could destroy Danzo !!
 

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If Danzo hit one Path with Koto then their shared vision ****s shit up and they all get affected. How ever the chance of Danzo using Koto successfully is low. The paths of Pain work in a formation as we saw when Pain fought Naruto. You need to have speed to intercept their formation. All Danzo can do is use a large scale wind attack, but that Jutsu would be rendered useless with Preta Path absorbing attacks.


Here's a pic of Pain's formation, couldn't find a better one


 

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nagato wins mid difficulty

but:

> danzo's summonings could take on pain's summonings
> danzo attacks consist of chakra which preta path will abosrb
> mechanical path will bombard danzo with missiles
> strong path, taking your soul path, and Yahiko path could destroy Danzo !!

Yeah Peta Path would be able to absorb Danzo's chakra attacks but he also has strong Taijutsu, and has the element of surprise on his side due to Izanagi. Peta Path would most likely be his 1st target because of his absorbing abilities.

Asura & Human Path wouldn't be able to lay a finger on Danzo, Izanagi remember?

If Danzo hit one Path with Koto then their shared vision ****s shit up and they all get affected. How ever the chance of Danzo using Koto successfully is low. The paths of Pain work in a formation as we saw when Pain fought Naruto. You need to have speed to intercept their formation. All Danzo can do is use a large scale wind attack, but that Jutsu would be rendered useless with Preta Path absorbing attacks.


Here's a pic of Pain's formation, couldn't find a better one



The chance of Danzo using KA and it being successful is extremely high due to the fact that it doesn't require eye contact and Pain would be unaware he's even in a Genjutsu. As speed goes, "Danzō was also quite fast and agile as he was able to catch Sasuke off-guard."

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With Izanagi, Danzo has a very high chance of doing the same to any of the Paths, only Susanoo saved Sasuke, but thats not the case here, while all of Pains attacks will fail, Danzo's attacks has a very high chance of hitting.
 
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