Why do people think the 3rd>kakashi?(Read)

[6pathofpain]

And before some one gets on here talkin that hiruzen prime shit, i dont wanna here shit about yall fairytails and shit you know nothing about.

Ninjutsu

Kakashi takes this one because he know a good amount if not all of the leaf's jutsu just like the 3rd and also alot of outside jutsu not to mention he created 2 of his own(lightning blade, lightning running beast)

Taijutsu

The 3rd is good i cant lie, but with kakashi base skill with sharingan added he has the upper hand

Summons

Idk why people seem to think enma or however you spell that monkeys name is like the best summon ever, but those dogs will jump the shit out of him. And if he turns into the staff kakashi still has the upper hand because of lightning release kunai that will go right through the staff.

Genjutsu

Kakashi wins cause i dont know if the 3rd even uses genjutsu

Brains

Kakashi's brains in battle are arguably by some the best in the series next to minato and itachi battlewise. That being said i have to give this one to Hiruzen because he has waaaaaaay to much experience

Finishers

Kamui, kakashi can use it at least 5 times and he was able to warp a entire naruto clone, so he can get hiruzen.

Reaper Death seal, it would deffinitly work if he tries it, but killing yourself to win is kinda cheating if you ask me.

So why oh why do people think the 3rd can beat kakashi?

 

[~Dream~]

Hokage > Jounin. 3rd Hokage with Hype > Kakashi.

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

Hokage > Jounin. 3rd Hokage with Hype > Kakashi.

This is probably as good a rebuttal as need be posted.

 

[FlareBlitz]

Wow.....these threads keep multplying....I believe kakashi would run out of chakra before the 3rd does tbh. Kakashi would put up a decent fight but I believe 3rd takes this high diff.

 

[Lalo]

Hokage > Jounin. 3rd Hokage with Hype > Kakashi.

You know kakashi was gunna be 6th hokage right?? I agree though hiruzen > kakashi

 

[6pathofpain]

Hokage > Jounin. 3rd Hokage with Hype > Kakashi.

Kakashi was about to be hokage, so he's worthy of the title obviously, and im sure you have to at least be jounin level to become hokage, everyones gotta start somewhere. And the 3rd's hype isnt fighting he is, unless you can come up with a real reason go away...

This is probably as good a rebuttal as need be posted.

:sy:

 

[6pathofpain]

Wow.....these threads keep multplying....I believe kakashi would run out of chakra before the 3rd does tbh. Kakashi would put up a decent fight but I believe 3rd takes this high diff.

Makes sense kinda, but i think kakashi will be alright as long as he doesnt spam kamui

 

[dawoodahmad]

Third>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kakashi
He pushed off the nine tails can kakashi do it?
He kept up with hashirama and tobirama can kaakshi do so?

 

[Koha]

Avoid too much speculating dude....

Monkey King Emna wouldn't be affected by Kakashi's lightning infused Kunai.. He's impervious to everything but Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi which is a legendary blade sooo.... In terms of Ninjutsu, Hiruzen still takes it, all of his abilities couldn't be shown because of advanced aging, but I mean... He wasn't called Professor for nothing, he was a genius when it came to Ninjutsu, so his nickname speaks for him, he also had a moniker as the God of Shinobi and to share a nickname with The Sage of 6 Paths is very impressive.

I can't determine a true answer to this, one because Hiruzen's dead and has only been in one major fight with most of his techniques dulled because of old age, but he did take out The 1st & 2nd Hokage along with sealing Orochimaru's arms.

Currently, if I were to give an answer, I lean towards Kakashi, but even in his old age Hiruzen appears to hold much more stamina than Kakashi does.


So.. 3rd Hokage.. High difficulty, with some hype.

 

[blazekev90]

That "monkey" itself owns Kakashi.

 

[FlareBlitz]

That "monkey" itself owns Kakashi.

Hahaha

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Third>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kakashi
He pushed off the nine tails can kakashi do it?
He kept up with hashirama and tobirama can kaakshi do so?

Why don't we try it and find out. . .OH WAIT we can't! Crazy how things that are stupid seem relevant in an argument.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

I think Kakashi (with plot-chakra reserve) might have a chance to keep up with Hiruzen ..

and it really depends whether or not you are speaking about Old Hiruzen or Young Hiruzen .

either ways it's pretty debatable , but only with the plot chakra and stamina that Kakashi seems to be having as of now .

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Hiruzen takes it, the greatest advantage that Kakashi has is his Sharingan. This also has to include a terrain for them to fight. Some would be Kakashi's forte' while others would be Hiruzen's.

 

[Koha]

I think Kakashi (with plot-chakra reserve) might have a chance to keep up with Hiruzen ..

and it really depends whether or not you are speaking about Old Hiruzen or Young Hiruzen .

either ways it's pretty debatable , but only with the plot chakra and stamina that Kakashi seems to be having as of now .

Your signature! xD Lmfaooo

 

[kakashi isboss]

Avoid too much speculating dude....

Monkey King Emna wouldn't be affected by Kakashi's lightning infused Kunai.. He's impervious to everything but Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi which is a legendary blade sooo.... In terms of Ninjutsu, Hiruzen still takes it, all of his abilities couldn't be shown because of advanced aging, but I mean... He wasn't called Professor for nothing, he was a genius when it came to Ninjutsu, so his nickname speaks for him, he also had a moniker as the God of Shinobi and to share a nickname with The Sage of 6 Paths is very impressive.

I can't determine a true answer to this, one because Hiruzen's dead and has only been in one major fight with most of his techniques dulled because of old age, but he did take out The 1st & 2nd Hokage along with sealing Orochimaru's arms.

Currently, if I were to give an answer, I lean towards Kakashi, but even in his old age Hiruzen appears to hold much more stamina than Kakashi does.


So.. 3rd Hokage.. High difficulty, with some hype.

yes hiruzen did take out the first and third but that was before they were introduced as strong chacerters i say kakashi only because kamuis a one shot

 

[FlareBlitz]

Makes sense kinda, but i think kakashi will be alright as long as he doesnt spam kamui

I agree if kakashi were to conserve his chakra by using his jutsu very wisely then yes I believe he could pull off a crittical hit but like other dude said we talkin bout old hurizen who fought orochimaru? Or when he was young...and before someone says we haven't seen how strong he was then. Just think about how powerful he was when he fought oro think 30/40 years younger......ud have a monster on ur hands lol

 

[6pathofpain]

Avoid too much speculating dude....

Monkey King Emna wouldn't be affected by Kakashi's lightning infused Kunai.. He's impervious to everything but Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi which is a legendary blade sooo.... In terms of Ninjutsu, Hiruzen still takes it, all of his abilities couldn't be shown because of advanced aging, but I mean... He wasn't called Professor for nothing, he was a genius when it came to Ninjutsu, so his nickname speaks for him, he also had a moniker as the God of Shinobi and to share a nickname with The Sage of 6 Paths is very impressive.

I can't determine a true answer to this, one because Hiruzen's dead and has only been in one major fight with most of his techniques dulled because of old age, but he did take out The 1st & 2nd Hokage along with sealing Orochimaru's arms.

Currently, if I were to give an answer, I lean towards Kakashi, but even in his old age Hiruzen appears to hold much more stamina than Kakashi does.


So.. 3rd Hokage.. High difficulty, with some hype.

Yea you just did a whole bunch of name dropping, and hype talk. I dont believe in that, i believe in knowing what characters can do from what we've seen and comparing them. The 3rd doesnt no with in ninjutsu, waterstyle counter fire, and lightning counters earth and with sharingan its only easier...kakashi wins.

And the 1st and 2nd were playing with him while he was in bringer of darkness as oro stated and could have killed him at anytime, he killed himself to beat them, that doesnt count as a win in my book.

I dont wanna hear about hype i wanna hear about what he can do and kakashi counters his style of ninjutsu and taijutsu.

 

[The Necromancer]

Hiruzen doesn't use genjutsu? He's mastered 1000 illusions... How have people not called you out on THAT point yet...?

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Yea you just did a whole bunch of name dropping, and hype talk. I dont believe in that, i believe in knowing what characters can do from what we've seen and comparing them. The 3rd doesnt no with in ninjutsu, waterstyle counter fire, and lightning counters earth and with sharingan its only easier...kakashi wins.

And the 1st and 2nd were playing with him while he was in bringer of darkness as oro stated and could have killed him at anytime, he killed himself to beat them, that doesnt count as a win in my book.

I dont wanna hear about hype i wanna hear about what he can do and kakashi counters his style of ninjutsu and taijutsu.

Basically what you're asking is to reach into the nothing and pull what he can do out of our asses? We know nothing more than what we've been shown. It's all hype beyond that.