You call them plot holes I call them Kishi wrote the damn story

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Let's think logically about the last plot holes:

I always tell people these plot holes can be solved if you think about them carefully.

So let me think for you because it seems some people struggle to:

If obito had zetsu inside him when he fought minato:
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Doesn't that mean, if madara did any enhancements to Obito's body it would of been done by now already? Meaning that Obito would be stronger then he was normally because all the zetsu, senju dna what ever.. would have been giving to him already. Plus if Madara did save him he would of had a maximum 1 year of training with Uchiha Madara. I'm sure it doesn't take 1 year to learn how to control the Kyuubi it is just like learning 1 genjutsu I am sure a year is enough time.

Plus if you are talking about MS techs I am sure it does not take 1 year to learn how to use your MS techs sasuke seemed to be able to do it in his fight with killer bee and he just unlocked MS.

So I think a year is actually enough time, if he was with Uchiha Madara.

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Forget your Data books and Naruto wiki sources, let's get info from kishi in chapter 14:

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I believe Kishi wrote chapter 14 before Naruto wiki was made and before the 1st data book came out but I can not confirm that, that's just what I think is logical to assume.

Kishi has stated that Zabuza killing his classmates was 11 years before the start of the series as we can see in the scan above.

So let's take away 11 from obito's age at the time Kakashi said this which is 26

26-11= 15

Obito at 15 is one year after the kyuubi attack so I don't know where everyone got Obito would be 9 from??


It says Zabuza graduated at 9 but let's look at konoha for example when you graduate from the academy is this the last exam process you take to become a ninja? No there is still chunin exams and so on. Also it has been stated that the graduation Zabuza killed his classmates in was to see who was worthy and skilled enough to become part of the 7 swordsmen. So this graduation Zabuza did at 9 could of been the first graduation process.

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Also I have already shown evidence in past threads that Kishi has planned Tobi to be Obito from the start of the series from hints being as far back as chapter 16. So let's use our brain one more time, if kishi planned it from this early doesn't that mean he put and wrote the plot holes in him self? I'm out.
 

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Calling them something different doesn't change the fact that the time line is screwed up and the events in the story at some stages follow no chronological order.
 

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Honestly, I love the story, Idk why people think its so hard for Tobi to be Obito, Or that Madara trained him. I think Kishi made the best choice, it would have been stupid if it were Izuna, Now that in my mind would leave some major plotholes.

But i agree with you, Someone made a timeline before and it was amazing, it explained this whole thing, I wish i could remember the thread.
 

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i would only call them plotholes if kishi never explained sht..
but we know kishi will explain.. so people just need to stay calm
 

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I thought Obito was 15 when he attacked the lead?
 

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that's what I've been tellin people great thread man
 

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Calling them something different doesn't change the fact that the time line is screwed up and the events in the story at some stages follow no chronological order.

Did you read my last paragraph, I think that was the point. And by that I mean kishi has nor revealed to us the information to fill in these events on purpose to not make us work out things. People need to remember he wrote this and what we know is what he wants us to know.

Honestly, I love the story, Idk why people think its so hard for Tobi to be Obito, Or that Madara trained him. I think Kishi made the best choice, it would have been stupid if it were Izuna, Now that in my mind would leave some major plotholes.

But i agree with you, Someone made a timeline before and it was amazing, it explained this whole thing, I wish i could remember the thread.

Yh izuna would take some explaining as well so I don't know what people are complaining about. We saw madara take izuna's eyes, we saw izuna in his coffin, izuna would be 90+ years old.. there are many plot holes with izuna as well but we know it's not him now.

i would only call them plotholes if kishi never explained sht..
but we know kishi will explain.. so people just need to stay calm

Thank you.

I thought Obito was 15 when he attacked the lead?

Nah naruto's age take away obito's is 14


that's what I've been tellin people great thread man

Exactly man, sometimes people need to use their brain
 

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But the thing is that in Zabuza's timeline there is no plothole like there are in Tobi's.
I think we should all wait for explanation and that's it.
 

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The way I see it, Tobi seemed to be Obito in Kishi's mind before the plot holes were even created, he has an explanation for sure. Great thread +rep.
 

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The way I see it, Tobi seemed to be Obito in Kishi's mind before the plot holes were even created, he has an explanation for sure. Great thread +rep.

Which is the main point of this thread, kishi wrote them in him self and obviously has an explanation from them. All we have to do is wait to see if this explanation is entertaining or not but after 6 years of watching Naruto I know it will be. Thanks man
 

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The best one of them is that Madara gave nagato rinnegan and tobi took it .... Yet they all have rinnegan now! I get that the jutsu brings them back at there prime but that's complete BS just making rinnegan eyes haha! Anyway just because Kish wrote it doesn't take away the fact he overlooked something's at the end of the day he's only human.
 

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The best one of them is that Madara gave nagato rinnegan and tobi took it .... Yet they all have rinnegan now! I get that the jutsu brings them back at there prime but that's complete BS just making rinnegan eyes haha! Anyway just because Kish wrote it doesn't take away the fact he overlooked something's at the end of the day he's only human.

Yh that's what people think but I tell he hasn't overlooked anything. He has made mistakes in the odd manga chapter or 2 but that is the only time he has made mistakes. If he planned all this obito business from the begining I think it's fair to say he planned everything. So there can't really be any plot holes and if there are plot holes then they are plot holes to us only and he has not revealed the truth yet, that's all.
 

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What about the Chunin exam screw up? can you explain that?
 

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there are plot holes. you must seriously want kishis **** up your ass to deny that fact
 

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What about the Chunin exam screw up? can you explain that?

There are no plot holes there you just failed to see the time skips, don't blame kishi.

there are plot holes. you must seriously want kishis **** up your ass to deny that fact

You don't get what I am saying, I am saying they are plot holes to us because we don't know what happening but Kishi is the one who wrote the story and who created those plot holes so we could not work out certain things in the manga
 

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There are no plot holes there you just failed to see the time skips, don't blame kishi.



You don't get what I am saying, I am saying they are plot holes to us because we don't know what happening but Kishi is the one who wrote the story and who created those plot holes so we could not work out certain things in the manga

i dont get what youre saying? LOL you dont even get what youre saying

go read up on what plot hole actually means. then come back and apologize for your stupidity
 
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