Why is Itachi always compared to the Top Tiers?

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I'm a Itachi fan, I don't think he's the god of Naruto, he's weaker than naruto but also he's strong in his own way. There, enough..what's with all the haters trying to underrate him? it's just as annoying as the fans who think Itachi's the god of naruto shippuden.

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I don't really see how you fans can compare Itachi to the all-time greats. He just does not have enough power. In my opinion the Top Tier characters are:

  • Nagato
  • Tobi
  • Naruto
  • Hiruzen Prime
  • Madara
  • Hashirama
  • Minato(borderline)
  • Kabuto(without edo borderline)
Itachi just cannot defeat any of the characters listed above. Also Itachi never defeated any character of significance without a decent amount of help, along with his poor stamina I don't really see how he can make top tier.

Discuss, no fanboyism.
Itachi beat kabuto, sasuke or not he wouldve still beat him. Prime Hiruzen's power is not even confirmed, Orichimaru beat hiruzen and itachi punked him. And even with naruto vast strength itachi is still smarter than him, idk if he could beat him but amaterasu can do a lot
 

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Itachi is still smarter than Naruto, yes Naruto might be STRONGER than Itachi when it comes to RAW strength but Itachi uses his strength better than Naruto.

Btw Itachi said that Tsukuyomi can only be countered by someone who has the Sharingan and since Naruto doesn't have the Sharingan he's ****ED.

Itachi is just wiser and smarter than Naruto. Speed alone doesn't win you a fight.
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Itachi is still smarter than Naruto, yes Naruto might be STRONGER than Itachi when it comes to RAW strength but Itachi uses his strength better than Naruto.

Btw Itachi said that Tsukuyomi can only be countered by someone who has the Sharingan and since Naruto doesn't have the Sharingan he's ****ED.

Itachi is just wiser and smarter than Naruto. Speed alone doesn't win you a fight.
Im not going to disagree with you with itachi being higher in intellect however if you look at itachi's jutsu's naruto's speed counters alot of them, i cbf listing unless you want me to explain.

Yes thats true however tsukuyomi isnt an instant genjutsu, as shown by edo itachi vs kabuto with itachi having to take time to form the genjutsu. If im wrong please show me and ill accept it however i do agree that unless naruto can counter the genjutsu with a killing blow or through some other means itachi wins.
 

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I don't really see how you fans can compare Itachi to the all-time greats. He just does not have enough power. In my opinion the Top Tier characters are:

  • Nagato
  • Tobi
  • Naruto
  • Hiruzen Prime
  • Madara
  • Hashirama
  • Minato(borderline)
  • Kabuto(without edo borderline)
Itachi just cannot defeat any of the characters listed above. Also Itachi never defeated any character of significance without a decent amount of help, along with his poor stamina I don't really see how he can make top tier.

Discuss, no fanboyism.
Itachi is stronger then kabuto anyway you put it.

I also like how you don't have sasuke on the list. Or Oro.
Many will say oro is weak and can't stand in an actual fight.
He doesn't need to, if you assume that the winner is the one who is alive at the end ( not the one who did the best or got the most hits) oro will win. Eventually the opponent will die of old age or another fight and oro will still be alive within someone else.
 

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Itachi beat kabuto, sasuke or not he wouldve still beat him. Prime Hiruzen's power is not even confirmed, Orichimaru beat hiruzen and itachi punked him. And even with naruto vast strength itachi is still smarter than him, idk if he could beat him but amaterasu can do a lot
You realise both were holding back so you cannot say if either is stronger and also if kabuto was to go all out hed also use edo's which is extremely hard to counter and sm kabuto counters alot of itach's move sets however we dont have enough info to decide who wins. And just because old hiruzen lost to orichimaru and itachi beat orichimaru doesnt mean itachi instantly wins against hurizen, the A>B and C>A therefore C>B cannot be applied here. Also naruto is fast enough to counter/dodge amaterasu so i dont see that jutsu being very effective in the fight compared to susano.
 

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itachis intelligence and battle strategies puts him on the top tier. so far i see no one in the manga thats able to anylize the situation and make up a battle plan that almost always works. only minato and kakashi has come close. i say hes the best MS user thats ever lived, his haxed tecniques combined with his way of thinking makes him a very deadly opponent even to those shinobis that are way higher level in terms power than him, nagato is an example.
 

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I don't really see how you fans can compare Itachi to the all-time greats. He just does not have enough power. In my opinion the Top Tier characters are:

  • Nagato
  • Tobi
  • Naruto
  • Hiruzen Prime
  • Madara
  • Hashirama
  • Minato(borderline)
  • Kabuto(without edo borderline)
Itachi just cannot defeat any of the characters listed above. Also Itachi never defeated any character of significance without a decent amount of help, along with his poor stamina I don't really see how he can make top tier.

Discuss, no fanboyism.
one tsukuyomi and they are aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll out..if he gets the senju dna itachi wud be the strongest character..
 

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LOOK JUST LIKE I TOLD MY BRO, EVERY ONE I NARUTO has a technique that the other person cant counter, and a technique thats strobger than the other, so when it comes to Genjustu Itatchi has that by the bag full,chackra levels and determination well you know who that gose to.
 

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oh yeah, i still think and know for a fact that the reason that kishi didnt put Gais team in the fight in the village with pain is because gais team had every technique to counter pains,, neji could have beat nagato.... im just saying
 

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one tsukuyomi and they are aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll out..if he gets the senju dna itachi wud be the strongest character..
Your joking right? Because what you just said is ridiculous.


oh yeah, i still think and know for a fact that the reason that kishi didnt put Gais team in the fight in the village with pain is because gais team had every technique to counter pains,, neji could have beat nagato.... im just saying
WTF, Not sure if serious.
 

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Itachi was extremely powerful and talented all while his body was slowly giving way to the disease that was eating away at him. To be that strong while dying is enough to put him in the Top Tier list for me.

I think Minato is the only other Top Tier shinobi Itachi would have a reasonable chance to defeat
 

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Please explain how itachi beats current naruto because i cbf looking through 10 pages to see if you explained. How does itachi counter naruto's speed and kyubbi being able to release naruto from genjutsu
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  • It's instant
  • Target must be an Uchiha with a MS to break it
  • Target with MS is not guaranteed to break it
  • It's effects cannot be canceled even by a partner (even a tailed beast).
  • If the effects could be canceled(which they cannot) the jutsu only takes a moment to cripple a target. The moment it took to break Tsukuyomi would still be enough KO the target.
  • Naruto sucks against genjutsu.
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  • It's instant
  • Targets must be an Uchiha with a MS to break it
  • Targest with MS may not break it
  • It's effects cannot be canceled even by a partner.
  • If the effects could be canceled(which they cannot) the jutsu only takes a moment to cripple a target. The momement it took to break Tsukuyomi would still be enough KO the target
  • Naruto sucks against genjutsu.
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He has to get eye contact which is not happening with Naruto's speed.
 

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He has to get eye contact which is not happening with Naruto's speed.
A, Bee, Sasuke, Kakashi, Orochimaru, Naruto and countless others have looked into a sharinagan. Even if they know Itachi has Tsukuyomi they've looked into his eyes.

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He didn't use Tsukuyomi because it was an Itachi clone that couldn't use Tsukuyomi. Itachi got Naruto to look right into Itachi's eyes.
Did you read the Tsukuyomi thread I linked?
Did you read the Prime Itachi link?

Both have references. This isn't a debate it is a beat down. Naruto cannot beat Itachi, at least not with what we know Naruto can do right now. Naruto's too fast? Prime Itachi could have been above a 5 in speed. Itachi was proficient with the body flicker as well.
 
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A, Bee, Sasuke, Kakashi, Orochimaru, Naruto and countless others have looked into a sharinagan. Even if they know Itachi has Tsukuyomi they've looked into his eyes.

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He didn't use Tsukuyomi because it was an Itachi clone that couldn't use Tsukuyomi. Itachi got Naruto to look right into Itachi's eyes.
Did you read the Tsukuyomi thread I linked?
Did you read the Prime Itachi link?

Both have references. This isn't a debate it is a beat down. Naruto cannot beat Itachi, at least now with what we know Naruto can do right now. Naruto's too fast? Prime Itachi could have been above a 5 in speed. Itachi was proficient with the body flicker as well.
Haha no, when Itachi can deflect 5 bijuu dama's with speed come see me

As for that pic, Itachi used finger genjutsu, and NAruto was already in it so whether he looked at his eyes or not at that point didn't matter..
 
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