This is so very true. Everyone just assumes that Obito's reason for doing all this was due to Rin's death...but we all know it's never as cut and dry as that where Kishi is concerned. Obviously, Madara plays a role in the bigger picture here. Something tells me Madara has been behind...Everything! from the attack on Kanohagakure 16 years ago, to the events now. It's proabably like a "Scream" theme where there were 2 killers instead of 1. I get the feeling "Tobi" was 1st Madara then Obito...maybe...If that is the case, then when did Madara die, and was it really Kabuto who ressurected him? Or was it an Edo Tensei Orochimaru did along time ago and both he and Kabuto just kept it under wraps using him to infultrate Akatuski, the Uchiha clan, and the like. i don't know. this is just a VERY WILD GUESS on my part& see this is the thing Obito doesn't see himself as the villain he feels justified for doing what he is doing it's all about prospective & that has been a main theme in the series.
Rin dying isn't the whole reason why he's doing these things it's about what the death of Rin represents it's not just about Kakashi failing to keep his promise to Obito either it's about the fact Kakashi had to make that promise at all.
He is coming back. Tobi will summon him like he just did Madara. That Madara on the field there is not the same one fighting the kages. Tobi has a reincarnation jitsu that is more powerful than edo-tensie. It brings back a replica of the person, but not the real person like edo does. Just a copy.Why do people keep thinking that Hashirama is going to be brought back? Did we forget that he was already edo-tensei'd back during the chunnin exam attack, then had his soul sealed away by the third hokage?
Also, after mentioning that, I have a feeling that's the same way the team will get rid of Madara. Talk no jutsu definitely won't work on this guy. 8I
I hope so....they've been running for a few chapters now...and yet Madara gets there first :'(Epic one....I think Naruto's friends will arrive in next chapter...How many of you agree?
I also had a thought that Obito might have been under some Tsukyomi or Koto Amatsukami made by Madara who just made him believe that what he is doing (ie Obito) is justified by the stupid fact that a ninja girl dies in a ninja war, and that's why he becomes the most (or one of the most) evil and OP villains in history.Well for me I stay with my theory that the guy behind the mask is not Obito.
He might be Obito's body with his eye, but not Obito.
Madara calling Tobi Obito doesn't necessarily mean he is Obito for real, it might be just like when Nagato used bodies to make Pain, at that time, when nobody knew who or what Pain was, Konan was calling him Pain or even Yahiko (about Yahiko's body).
And I think that Madara found Obito or something else found him (maybe Zetsu) and that he either found him dead or alive. If he found him dead he might have used some kind of jutsu to read back Obito's memories and know what he wanted most (ie Rin) and used that as a pretext to destabilize Kakashi and Guy, and keep his secret. If he found him alive he might have passed some time with him so he could know him and know what he wants most (ie Rin) and then killed him because Obito wouldn't get manipulated.
That let's us with the Naruto eternal question: Who is Tobi??
I'm your future son, Madara San Jr., I've come back in time to help you loosen f**k up Pops. In the future you get a hunch back and chronic hemorrhoids because you take everything too seriously. I got my ass kicked everyday at school, whenever I'd try to defend you and your misplaced criticism of unfinished work. You always jump the gun Dad. You end up hating Avatar part 3, and force me and my sis to leave halfway through. And most importantly, you never finish reading Naruto and you mumble about it in your sleep for 30 freaking years! I'm sick and tired of hearing you babble about how Naruto should have married Hinata, and how it was Kishimoto's fault that you never found out who won when Naruto and Sasuke finally have their "battre jusqu'à la mort." Gawd Pops, just get over yourself! Save your ass and mine!WHO ARE YOU!?? I don't know if this is complete trolling or what, but have a little respect for your fellow members and stop referring to us as children, or honeychildren or babies. It's annoying.
You should also try to reign in the arrogance regarding all your 'knowledge' of how Kishi works. None of it explains a bad story. You're disregarding the fact that this was the 600th chapter. A very important milestone, for the manga itself and all is fans. Don't belittle our opinions and act high and mighty. If you're happy to accept this as just another chapter before the real stuff kicks in, then by all means go ahead. But it sounds as if you're not a real fan, that you're not seeing the bigger picture, and that you don't have standards.
[If this is trolling, then i have to tip my cap to you. It's very effective.]
This.Obito said that he SURVIVED because Kakashi let Rin die, not started a war because of that. Understand the dialogue. It's elementary English for crying out loud.
Agreed , as I'm clicking next im like " WTF" so much flash back not enough elaboration on the storyPersonally i disliked it and almost thought it was a fake whilst reading through it. It wasted our time with 10 pages of flashbacks we've already seen from kakashi gaiden. this is a 7 page chapter :T