Proof Onoki > Hashirama (facts and manga pages)

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Hashiramas's hype and legacy makes Onoki look like a fodder

and i said feats and real tangible showings we can see happen > hype and rumour

It dosen't matter if Hashirama beat Kurama in a physical duel at the end of the day he took on EMS Madara and Kurama!!

and at the end of the day we dont know what truly happened. if kurama was such a factor how come madara acted like it was 1 vs 1? mito dealt with kyuubi early on, thats why. dont say he took down kurama when all he did was supress it so mito could seal it

He can create massive forests

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yeah thats one big forest he has there...

he can create gigantic flowering trees which are able to put targets asleep in an instant

and this didn't work on onoki when madara used it yet somehow you think it will work this time on an onoki whos flying in the goddamn air with his weight jutsu?
hashi has no susano to knock him down into the cloud

he could shape the entire battlefield for his own uses.

so could onoki with weight changing/jinton

can control tailed beasts which made him unparalleled in the shinobi world

well obviously if you can control those things no one would want to **** with you. doesnt mean he physically can fight them

he was called the strongest shinobi by Madara

no he wasnt. not once did madara ever say anything remotely even close to this. what he said was "people admired him as the strongest of his time" and obito flat out said "strongest of his time". and being considered strongest doesnt actually make you it. for all the world knew, some secret badass was hiding out in one of the minor villages like someone else we know (*cough* nagato*)

Narutowiki.

wait thats your source? please read the manga.

Madara's Mokuton is not as powerful as Hashirama's

madaras mokuton is VASTLY superior as shown in the goddamn manga itself. compare their sizes and tell me whether you think edo hashiramas is better or edo madaras. i dont care about powerscaling, only tangible feats and what im seeing with my own eyes.

Onoki is not strong enough to beat hashirama

he drops a mountain on hashirama or disintegrates his face

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

and i said feats and real tangible showings we can see happen > hype and rumour

and at the end of the day we dont know what truly happened. if kurama was such a factor how come madara acted like it was 1 vs 1? mito dealt with kyuubi early on, thats why. dont say he took down kurama when all he did was supress it so mito could seal it

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yeah thats one big forest he has there...

and this didn't work on onoki when madara used it yet somehow you think it will work this time on an onoki whos flying in the goddamn air with his weight jutsu?
hashi has no susano to knock him down into the cloud

so could onoki with weight changing/jinton

well obviously if you can control those things no one would want to **** with you. doesnt mean he physically can fight them

no he wasnt. not once did madara ever say anything remotely even close to this. what he said was "people admired him as the strongest of his time" and obito flat out said "strongest of his time". and being considered strongest doesnt actually make you it. for all the world knew, some secret badass was hiding out in one of the minor villages like someone else we know (*cough* nagato*)

wait thats your source? please read the manga.

madaras mokuton is VASTLY superior as shown in the goddamn manga itself. compare their sizes and tell me whether you think edo hashiramas is better or edo madaras. i dont care about powerscaling, only tangible feats and what im seeing with my own eyes.

he drops a mountain on hashirama or disintegrates his face

I would counter you points but there's no point trying to converse with you anymore because you dont't understand. The ponits that i specified are in NarutoWiki but it dosen't seem like a legitimate source for you so carry on babbling on about Hashirama would lose to Onoki.