For you hes clearly more powerful because of one technique called Dust Release give me a break
hes stronger because hes stronger. weight manipulation, rock clones, earth shore return, rock fist, flight
Hashirama's Mokuton is much more powerful than Madaras Mokuton.
how do you know? post some feats proving it
Madara stated that the Gokage are 'nothing' compared to Hashirama and that he fought in a 'real battle of life and death' - not the puny game Edo Madara believes he is taking part in.
i like how you conveniantly ignore
"ah so you do deserve the title of kages after all"
"we pushed you into a corner and forced you to use a clone to escape. am i wrong"
"anything and everything is nothign before me. even the 5 kage"
these statements suggest that madara was no longer treating it like a game and was seriously trying to kill them but couldnt. he took one last shot at tsunade with katons and she batted them away.
Oonokis strongest Jinton technique, he backed up with Tsunades help, covered a small part of the flower tree world Madara has created
onokis spear shaped jinton cleared out the entire flower tree world jutsu without tsunades help
Hashirama can cover the landscape with his forests at any time
onoki can turn said forests into rocks
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by turning it weightless and if it doesnt turn to rocks he can destroy it.
Are you kidding? Several Mokuton clones
ive still yet to see proof hashirama can use multiple mokuton clones. madara being able to doesnt mean hashirama has performed it. its not meant to be used by people other than naruto after all
Even Madara with his perfect Susanoo admitted inferiority to Hashirama,
VIZ manga "only hashirama was ever capable of beating me" WAS.
Hashirama can cover the landscape with his forests at any time
hes never done so. dont automatically assume he is equal to madara in mokuton power since hashirama isnt an immortal with no chakra loss.
Hashirama can outlast him chakra wise
scans showing hashiramas chakra levels please
there's no way Oonoki could take out a forest from Hashi, and even if he could, hashi would just make another one.
no he cant as we have no infromation on him. we dont know his chakra levels, if mokutons as big as madara's version, NOTHING. in part 1 it took him 2 pages to fill up a small space with a few trees. in one page onoki cleared out a huge forest. he even lightened a meteor and saved the alliances asses. he can CARRY ISLANDS. whats stoppping onoki from lifting up say a plateu, then after throwing it, restore its weight to be like several hundred tons? kaboom is what would happen.
and as I remember, Madara beat both, Muu and Oonoki at the same time without even using the perfect Susanoo.
onoki was what, 10 at the time? making mu not much older than him. since he wasnt tsuchikage yet. we dont know anything about that fight. did muu want to kill him? did muu have jinton yet or was that later in life? did he fight tobirama at some point? and since onoki was so scared of madaras genjutsus i bet thats all it tok to take onoki down. unknown what happened with muu so you shouldnt just assume shit.
Hashirama would simply create a forest to change the battlefield into his advantage
onoki would simply go right through that forest in less than a second and kill hashi. in the time it takes to produce all those trees hashirama will be dead. or fallen for rock clone feint THEN dead.
Tsunade gave him a whole boatload of chakra
all tsunade can do is restore someone to their original strength. the chakra shed collected over the years was used up vs pain
