tobi and obito timeline

[3MESSIAH]

First of all,i would like to apologize if this has already been stated/discussed, but i just had to get it out of my head xd so yeah,regarding this messed up timeline.........


1.Madara said he died shortly after awakening his rinnegan---->which means he gave it to nagato when nagato was a young brat(maybe not so long before nagato first awakened it).
2.Madara seems to know tobi so that means tobi was already around at the time when nagato was trained by jiraiya and way before.
3.if i am not mistaken jiraiya began training nagato at the time of the third great shinobi war(or even second,i am not sure) which was taking place quite some years before the kyyubi`s attack and minato˙s death(because jiraiya trained nagato for 3 years,wrote the tale of naruto,which minato read later on)

So my point is,how the hell can tobi be obito if tobi was around when madara gave rinnegan to nagato??? at that time obito was still his usual self in the konoha village or even a suckling babe!!?? explain this and i˙ll rep you for a lifetime :rag:

 

[drxdroopy]

idk man i believe there are more than 1 tobi too though

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Madara (long haired Tobi) was seen when the Uchiha massacre happened, as he is the one who met with Itachi.

Which means there is no need for Tobi to have met Madara when Jiraiya was training Nagato, as Madara apparently stayed alive long enough to control the Mizukage himself and form Akatsuki and help Itachi massacre the clan.


So Madara met Tobi/Obito later on as he was still alive apparently.

I do get what u are saying about Madara he died shortly after awakening the Rinnegan, but how much is shortly after really? If Madara survived all the way till the Uchiha massacre, that means he was like nearly 100 years old. Shortly could be years.

And him giving the Rinnegan to Nagato, we dont know exactly how he gave them to him...

 

[3MESSIAH]

Madara (long haired Tobi) was seen when the Uchiha massacre happened, as he is the one who met with Itachi.

Which means there is no need for Tobi to have met Madara when Jiraiya was training Nagato, as Madara apparently stayed alive long enough to control the Mizukage himself and form Akatsuki and help Itachi massacre the clan.


So Madara met Tobi/Obito later on as he was still alive apparently.

I do get what u are saying about Madara he died shortly after awakening the Rinnegan, but how much is shortly after really? If Madara survived all the way till the Uchiha massacre, that means he was like nearly 100 years old. Shortly could be years.

And him giving the Rinnegan to Nagato, we dont know exactly how he gave them to him...

you do have a point there here`s your rep

 

[saw2097]

It looks like Obito was the Tobi behind the 9 tails attack, if the two Tobi theory is accurate. The Tobi responsible had short hair.

My guess is that whatever Madara did to save Obito's life enhanced his powers drastically. He probably tought him how to summon the 9 tails.

Also it is likely that the reason Obito did this was because he got impatient with Madara's plan and wanted to destroy the Hidden Leaf villiage. My guess is that he jumped before he was supposed too. Kind of like what Naruto does.

Madara was probably nearing the end of his life and tought Obito the lesson of patience.

It actually makes since that Tobi is Obito because in a way that would make him a evil version of Naruto. Both of them have the ability to influence people.

 

[Zerofnaruto]

First of all,i would like to apologize if this has already been stated/discussed, but i just had to get it out of my head xd so yeah,regarding this messed up timeline.........


1.Madara said he died shortly after awakening his rinnegan---->which means he gave it to nagato when nagato was a young brat(maybe not so long before nagato first awakened it).
2.Madara seems to know tobi so that means tobi was already around at the time when nagato was trained by jiraiya and way before.
3.if i am not mistaken jiraiya began training nagato at the time of the third great shinobi war(or even second,i am not sure) which was taking place quite some years before the kyyubi`s attack and minato˙s death(because jiraiya trained nagato for 3 years,wrote the tale of naruto,which minato read later on)

So my point is,how the hell can tobi be obito if tobi was around when madara gave rinnegan to nagato??? at that time obito was still his usual self in the konoha village or even a suckling babe!!?? explain this and i˙ll rep you for a lifetime :rag:

Well for number 1, we have no idea who gave it to nagato, as far as I looked through the information I reserched.
2. No, he knows about tobi/obito becuase of an event that occured years before obito was born (dosn't say what the event was), he was aware of obito and his plans. Their relashionship is unclear.
3.Yes, jiraiya did, so no question there? Ok then.
Last Paragrah - We have no idea becaused its being too contradicted, like how obito wasn't realy born when nagato was around to give the rinnegan too, so it complicates things. Im sure kishi will clear up this mess in the next few chapters or so.

 

[RedTechno]

It looks like Obito was the Tobi behind the 9 tails attack, if the two Tobi theory is accurate. The Tobi responsible had short hair.

My guess is that whatever Madara did to save Obito's life enhanced his powers drastically. He probably tought him how to summon the 9 tails.

Also it is likely that the reason Obito did this was because he got impatient with Madara's plan and wanted to destroy the Hidden Leaf villiage. My guess is that he jumped before he was supposed too. Kind of like what Naruto does.

Madara was probably nearing the end of his life and tought Obito the lesson of patience.

It actually makes since that Tobi is Obito because in a way that would make him a evil version of Naruto. Both of them have the ability to influence people.

This was my idea of madara saving obitos life right after kakashi and his team left the bridge

 

[Prime Rib]

First of all,i would like to apologize if this has already been stated/discussed, but i just had to get it out of my head xd so yeah,regarding this messed up timeline.........


1.Madara said he died shortly after awakening his rinnegan---->which means he gave it to nagato when nagato was a young brat(maybe not so long before nagato first awakened it).
2.Madara seems to know tobi so that means tobi was already around at the time when nagato was trained by jiraiya and way before.
3.if i am not mistaken jiraiya began training nagato at the time of the third great shinobi war(or even second,i am not sure) which was taking place quite some years before the kyyubi`s attack and minato˙s death(because jiraiya trained nagato for 3 years,wrote the tale of naruto,which minato read later on)

So my point is,how the hell can tobi be obito if tobi was around when madara gave rinnegan to nagato??? at that time obito was still his usual self in the konoha village or even a suckling babe!!?? explain this and i˙ll rep you for a lifetime :rag:

madara didnt live for the next 35-45 years after the events with the hashirama fight, he would been a old fart by now