[Discussion] why are the uchiha's so damn strong

[looking 4 name]

because they have the sage eyes

and because kishi likes them

 

[Em3plum]

what i meant is the uchiha clan has the ability to get better jutsu than every other clan no other clan has an equivalent of amaterasu(ninjutsu), susano(taijutsu) or tsukyomi(genjutsu)

 

[supino]

making a tiny adjustment to Sheldon's take on the well-known game:

• Scissors cuts paper
• Paper covers rock
• Rock crushes lizard
• Lizard poisons Spock
• Spock smashes scissors
• Scissors decapitates lizard
• Lizard eats paper
• Paper disproves Spock
• Spock vaporizes rock
• Rock crushes scissors
• Uchihas beat everything

obviously players should not hastily resort to Uchihas as that creates an infinite loop and you re just stuck there pwned as bad as Kabuto.

 

[Aze]

Senjus , Uzumakis , Uchihas are light years ahead compared to the other clans = they are the direct descendants of the Rikudo Sennin (strongest ninja who ever excisted).


Also , Senju hashirama can counter absolutely every Uchiha Tech.

And Uchihas can counter absolutely every Senju Tech.

Uzumakis can outlive both Senju and Uchiha and can seal massive amounts of chakra and even contain them.

That means , that a regular uchiha not possesing senju dna = will die when becoming a jinchuriki.


A senju not possesing Uchiha dna = will die by becoming a jinchuriki.


These are the differences.


all 3 of these clans have their pros and cons.

 

[DeidaraSenpai007]

uchihas r the strongest,senjus r dead after the death of hashirama.hashirama is the only senju that can take down an MS user uchiha.now that i think about it,how the hell did the senjus keep up with the uchihas when there is only one of them that is super strong?

 

[lilshell43]

Tobirama was strong also.

 

[lilshell43]

And there are barely a lot of Uchihas. Sasuke, Shisui, Itachi, Madara, And Izuna are the main ones out of millions. And eventually they'll go blind unless they find a replacement mangekyou from a sibling. So I don't think it's that overpowered.

 

[Anticeon]

Because the are Rikudos pure bloodline theyre ****ing racism ... in Senju they are so many sub-bloodline like hokage 3 and hokage 5...

 

[psukkar]

well they are really not that strong,


they all became the senju's lapdogs in the end.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Antagonists, really.

And this thread does raise a great question: Why are the Uchiha so damned strong? Even somebody who doesn't seem that great like Obito suddenly turns around to become one of the strongest ninja in the world. Madara probably IS the strongest ninja on the battlefield right now. Sasuke is probably up near the top of the list as well. I mean, does anybody here doubt that Sasuke is now stronger than Kakashi, Gai, and many of the kages?

And we all remember how powerful Itachi was. Even when he was sick and half blind he was still feared and respected among Akatsuki and other ninjas as well. In the fight against Kabuto, it certainly appeared that Edo Itachi with regular MS was just as powerful as Sasuke with EMS.

I guess if we put things on a bell curve, we can say that in any population of 1000 people there are going to be people who are "one in a thousand". And obviously, since the clan is almost completely destroyed, only the ones from the very top still survived. The problem is, Itachi massacred half of the clan by himself, so we have to do a balancing act. The more Uchiha there were in the clan, the weaker they needed to be on average (because Itachi killed half of them by himself), and the more statistically unusual people like Itachi and Sasuke (and Madara, and Tobi/Obito are).

Let's give some examples. Let's assume that only about 1/5 Uchiha are warriors, the rest are women, children, the elderly and non-combatants (chefs, teachers, librarians, etc). Let's also remember that Madara/Tobi killed half of the clan. That leaves one fifth of one half of the people for Itachi to fight:

1) If there were 10 people in the clan, Itachi needed to kill 1 warrior, so Itachi is stronger than 1 Uchiha
2) If there were 100 people in the clan, Itachi needed to kill 10 warriors, so Itachi is about 10 times better than the average Uchiha warrior
3) If there were 1000 people in the clan, Itachi needed to kill 100 warriors, so Itachi is about 100 times better than the average Uchiha.

(we can decrease the numbers further if we assume Itachi killed some of his biggest threats in their sleep, etc)

See what I mean? The level of population for the clan determines how strong they must be on average, and how unusual Itachi is in comparison.

(TL;DR) IN OTHER WORDS, it depends how big the clan is. If there were less than 100 clan members, it's likely that the clan IS OVERPOWERED, because all the warriors would be more or less as strong as Itachi (in the same ballpark). On the other hand, if there are more than 100 clan members, they are probably pretty weak on average, and only a rare few of them are overpowered. With bell curves being what they are, the more clan members you have, the more statistically likely that you're going to get an outlier more than one or two standard deviations away from the mean (but then again, the lower the mean would have to be to make the numbers work).

Itachi ain't kill nobody but his mom and dad, Obito killed the clan. Itachi seriously couldn't even cut through half the clan. Your overrating him way too much, It was obito. It will always be obito

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

And there are barely a lot of Uchihas. Sasuke, Shisui, Itachi, Madara, And Izuna are the main ones out of millions. And eventually they'll go blind unless they find a replacement mangekyou from a sibling. So I don't think it's that overpowered.

A great deal of Uchiha didn't want the MS cause they knew the cost of it, you can see that when sasuke's father tells him it's not with the cost to get the MS.

 

[flyboyissac]

so why isnt their another senju just as powerful and naruto is an uzamaki and his power comes more from his will power and the kyuubi

Wait what I dnt get it