Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Nice +rep. But I think there's more than one masked person. When the initial masked man appeared, Kakashi, Guy, and the others were all young and small in size, and obito was their mate, but the masked man matched minato in size, so I don't think it's the same person.
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Or... not. Possibilities still open.

Ok, so here are MY BELIEFS in regard to the whole Tobi id theories (I will quote myself from other threads).

Why he is Tobi, but is not Tobi and could be Izuna.
yea and that is why there is a ! in "it's finally revealed, his name is obito!" confirmed much?
lawl your argument about the ? is invalid
get over it, it's obito
 
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I think I know what happened...........
This is going to be a bit too much..... Obito is kakashi and kakashi is obito!!!!
Just keep reading!!!

We all saw kakashi black out when he obtained the sharingun and transplanted it right!?!? What I think happened is that obito unwanting to die used a special forbidden jutsu that transferred his soul into kakashi's body and vis versa........ When obito in kakashi woke ip he found minato and RIN right next too him and he just played along as kakashi. That's why he is always so sad......... Thats why he visits the grave daily.

However kakashi who is now obito stayed alive and as he was slowly dying he was able too activate the MS and phase through the rocks...... Filled with hate he tracked down obito who is now kakashi and was about to attack and that's when he heard obito who is now kakashi say to minato and RIN the truth........ However thinking that it was to late to do anything they just played along as well. Minato however stopped speaking to obito who is now kakashi, but RIN stayed in contact with him............ So kakashi who is now obito grew even a bigger hatred to not just him but everyone else as well....... Thus coming up with his plan to bring peace by genjustu.........

What you think!!!!
It is better then most prediction/theory in this thread right xD
Aaah, sorry, no.
Why? Kakashi's soul is in his place. Look at when he died in Pein arc.
Obito couldn't have been the one to meet Sakumo Hatake.
 

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I think I know what happened...........
This is going to be a bit too much..... Obito is kakashi and kakashi is obito!!!!
Just keep reading!!!

We all saw kakashi black out when he obtained the sharingun and transplanted it right!?!? What I think happened is that obito unwanting to die used a special forbidden jutsu that transferred his soul into kakashi's body and vis versa........ When obito in kakashi woke ip he found minato and RIN right next too him and he just played along as kakashi. That's why he is always so sad......... Thats why he visits the grave daily.

However kakashi who is now obito stayed alive and as he was slowly dying he was able too activate the MS and phase through the rocks...... Filled with hate he tracked down obito who is now kakashi and was about to attack and that's when he heard obito who is now kakashi say to minato and RIN the truth........ However thinking that it was to late to do anything they just played along as well. Minato however stopped speaking to obito who is now kakashi, but RIN stayed in contact with him............ So kakashi who is now obito grew even a bigger hatred to not just him but everyone else as well....... Thus coming up with his plan to bring peace by genjustu.........

What you think!!!!
It is better then most prediction/theory in this thread right xD
What a mind blowing theory lol, but the lady countered it. :D
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Oh gosh where the hell was i when you made this ridiculous thread? how come know one alerted me? no Bat signal, my Spider Senses didnt go off and the mayor didnt call the Powerpuff hotline....

i didnt go through the 5 pages but i imagine that its full of tards commending you on this bullshit, err i mean your "explanations"... fact is you didnt explain anything.. you just made arguements like "well theres no proof for Obito's age so ha"...

anyways getting to the point i will destroy your points..

Insert Epic Wall of Bullshit here
Let me sum up this entire wall of text for you :

"Your argument is invalid cause you mix facts with assumptions you just retarded blah blah blah".

You come here claiming to be a hero or some shit but you're even worse than the others.

Dude you don't even know what you're talking about. What the hell is this?

"Kakashi iz 30 cuz of da databuuk"
Well I'm gonna tell you the same thing Kishimoto told the entire world with this chapter, **** your databook. He wrote it a long time ago and now decided it wouldn't fit the series so just ignored it, that's all. The databook never was canon. The manga is. And if in the manga it never was said that Kakashi is 30, then he isn't. The end.

"Obito could not have fought minato blah blah blah"
Yeah? Naruto at the very beginning couldn't make a clone of himself, and within the same year was using Jiraya's best summon and jutsu.

"bullshit.. "lil is known about Mizukage" bullshit arguement.. "
You're an ignorant you're aware of that right? You said exactly the same shit I said before, how Obito didn't need to be a master of genjutsu. You're a belligerent moron disagreeing with me for the sake of disagreement, just because I'm a Tobito theorist and you're some Izuna ass kisser or some shit.

"oh it was Madara who gave Nagato Rinnegan? is that fact or a speculation you made there? an assumption?

It's called common sense, something you probably don't know what it is. If you knew you'd have, like me, guessed that Tobi is Obito.

"but to address the topic, it destroys Obitos character for turning evil because he was the metaphorical Naruto of his generation".
Nagato was also selfless and shit and yet he Shinra Tensei'd the entire Konohagakure.

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Some people say that Obito can't be Tobi because of the height difference/ age and all that.

Accordind to this he must have been 17 ( if the attack was only one year after Obito's apparent death ) when Tobi attacked Konaha and fought Minato.



This states that Obito graduated form the academy at age 9.

Kakashi graduated at age 5.

Obito is 4 years older.



This states that at age 13 Kakashi was chosen to lead Obito and Rin. This was just after he became Jonin. Obito would be 16 at this time.
 

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If Tobi is Obito then why is this here ?

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Kisame knowing Obito ? And Caling him Madara Uchiha ?

Kisame knows a masked men from here who says is Madara Uchiha !

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But why would he call Obito ... Madara Uchiha ?
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

"Obito was 14 during the Konoha attack"
I'm yet to see any true evidence about him being 14 during the Konoha attack, and I really don't see where the hell people pulled this crap out of. Anti-Obito theorists just made this up to have the whole timeline plot hole, so I don't see it as a valid argument.
*sigh*.

The first thing you said, and that's the most incorrect thing out of the entire post as this is the part which has 100% proof. It's also very simple.

Kakashi is currently 30 years old as it's in the databook. The databook is written by Kishi.

Obito was 13 when he was crushed under the rock at Kannabi Bridge. This is also in the databook. Kakashi is also 13 years old when be became a Jounin at that time because he is in the same year as Obito.

We also know that Naruto is 16 years old.

Now since Tobi attacked the village when Naruto was born, the attack on the village was 16 years ago. That means that Kakashi would have only been 14 years old and hence Obito was only 14 years old.

We didn't make this up because of some pathetic "timeline plothole excuse". We're using evidence from the manga and the databook to work out this conclusion. It's basically some simple maths.

"Kakashi iz 30 cuz of da databuuk"
Well I'm gonna tell you the same thing Kishimoto told the entire world with this chapter, **** your databook. He wrote it a long time ago and now decided it wouldn't fit the series so just ignored it, that's all. The databook never was canon. The manga is. And if in the manga it never was said that Kakashi is 30, then he isn't. The end.
Seriously? That's such a weak argument.

How did you come to the conclusion that "Kishi revealing Tobi to be Obito = Kishi disregarding the databook".

The fact is, that you're just in denial here. Accept it, Obito would have been 14 years old during the attack on Konoha.
 
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He subconsciously knows this means no matter what he does, he looses. If he had won he would have known the names of the tailed beasts already. It will become more clear later on.
 
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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

yea and that is why there is a ! in "it's finally revealed, his name is obito!" confirmed much?
lawl your argument about the ? is invalid
get over it, it's obito
Than explain the particular use of the explanatory note. Why wouldn't he state that "He is Obito" instead of "His name is Obito".

His name is Obito = / = He is Obito. ;)
 

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Aaah, sorry, no.
Why? Kakashi's soul is in his place. Look at when he died in Pein arc.
Obito couldn't have been the one to meet Sakumo Hatake.
Isnt that where kakashi also saw Obito!?!?!?
Yet here we find out that he is alive :/
That could have been just his imagination for all we know......
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

*sigh*.

The first thing you said, and that's the most incorrect thing out of the entire post as this is the part which has 100% proof. It's also very simple.

Kakashi is currently 30 years old as it's in the databook. The databook is written by Kishi.

Obito was 13 when he was crushed under the rock at Kannabi Bridge. This is also in the databook. Kakashi is also 13 years old when be became a Jounin at that time because he is in the same year as Obito.

We also know that Naruto is 16 years old.

Now since Tobi attacked the village when Naruto was born, the attack on the village was 16 years ago. That means that Kakashi would have only been 14 years old and hence Obito was only 14 years old.

We didn't make this up because of some pathetic "timeline plothole excuse". We're using evidence from the manga and the databook to work out this conclusion. It's basically some simple maths.



Seriously? That's such a weak argument.

How did you come to the conclusion that "Kishi revealing Tobi to be Obito = Kishi disregarding the databook".

The fact is, that you're just in denial here. Accept it, Obito would have been 14 years old during the attack on Konoha.
But Kishimoto doesn't give a shit about the databook anymore, don't you get that?
 
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