In fact, Susanoo can't protect against Amaterasu or Kamui

Bogard

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Look at this pic carefully:
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Notice that Sasuke is inside Susanoo, but the Amaterasu that Sasuke uses on Danzo doesn't care about what is all around Sasuke(Susanoo) and touches Danzo directly

So if Sasuke can use Amaterasu when he is inside his Susanoo, it means that if his opponents can use Amaterasu also, he can hit him regardless of Susanoo or not. It means that Susanoo can't protect against a visual jutsu and the same goes with Kamui then. And i find it normal since you only need to see something to make it either burn or create a space time distortion to warp that object or person

What do you think?:ice:
 

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Don't forget that User can Control Susanoo because it is Chakra and every major Ninja can control his chakra... Susanoo BECOMES SOLID because MADARA evoided Raikages punch with Susanoo, flames will be ON susanoo not inside it ;) You can't get through Solid thing unless you can control it.
 

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I don't agree about amaterasu, but it seems natural that susanoo cannot protect against kamui considering that the jutsu just picks a space and warps space time. It's not a physical attack.
 

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Maybe the real strategy is to hit him on the inside instead of trying to break the outside, especially since he can control the Susanoo
 

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So seing how sasuke used a fireball inside his susanoo 2 kill Danzo summon does tht mean tht susanoo wont block a c rank fire ball jutsu when v1 susanoo block garaa temari kankuro n darui attack?
 

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The user can allow people in and out this also goes for objects and the fact that susanoo can be amaterased proves your worng here are the two scans



take a look at the lines around itachi which clearly shows sasuke is inside susanoo that means he can allow anyone in

Sasuke amaterasuing His susanoo



There you go as you can see i proved you are wrong and also kamui or amaterasu isn't passing through susanoo as it is solid object just like a wall and if your theory was right than that would mean minato could teleport inside susanoo which is the same as minato teleporting inside a wall (susanoo is by far harder than a wall btw) I brought minato in here since he uses space time too But kamui and amaterasu appear were the user is look and since susanoo is the ultimate defence it should protect the user from both otherwise all the ninja world has too do to defeat madara is just bring sasuke there so he can amaterasu madara inside madara s susanoo :)
 

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So seing how sasuke used a fireball inside his susanoo 2 kill Danzo summon does tht mean tht susanoo wont block a c rank fire ball jutsu when v1 susanoo block garaa temari kankuro n darui attack?
Didn't thought about the katon thing. Maybe :)
 

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Wrong, Amaterasu ain't doing nothing to the user inside Susanoo. Sasuke manipulates Susanoo, so he can do whatever he wants, but his opponent let's say Itachi can't shoot Amaterasu because Susanoo's exterior is extremely durable. It isn't a ghastly figure it's a humanoid made from chakra, so the user can pass through Susanoo freely because that's their chakra and they possess great control.

Kamui might work on Susanoo, but the rib cage is the only i see transporting easily. V2, V3, and Final Form are all going to be difficult to transport away. Why because of the size and their attacks get better as the version increases. Rib Cage is easy, because it only serves as defense. The problem with Kamui is that it takes longer to transport large objects.
 

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He can probably control it or something but inuyasha is awesome :D
Yeah, Inuyasha is da best :D
Wrong, Amaterasu ain't doing nothing to the user inside Susanoo. Sasuke manipulates Susanoo, so he can do whatever he wants, but his opponent let's say Itachi can't shoot Amaterasu because Susanoo's exterior is extremely durable. It isn't a ghastly figure it's a humanoid made from chakra, so the user can pass through Susanoo freely because that's their chakra and they possess great control.

Kamui might work on Susanoo, but the rib cage is the only i see transporting easily. V2, V3, and Final Form are all going to be difficult to transport away. Why because of the size and their attacks get better as the version increases. Rib Cage is easy, because it only serves as defense. The problem with Kamui is that it takes longer to transport large objects.
Not really. The power of Kamui depends on the user, if he creates a hole large enough it can teleport instanly. Just see when he teleported the clone
 

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There is several susanoos so far we seen that PS and itachis susanoo is invincible
 

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I like how nobody here seems to realize that Amaterasu doesn't travel, it is summoned to a specific point. It doesn't have to transcend any barriers, it just appears. I thought it was common knowledge that Amaterasu could be summoned inside of Susanoo.
 

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Yeah, Inuyasha is da best :D
Not really. The power of Kamui depends on the user, if he creates a hole large enough it can teleport instanly. Just see when he teleported the clone

He transported the clone, but it doesn't mean he can transport someone like Sasuke with his Final Susanoo or Madara with PS. It's hard, you do realize you need to focus on the attack. Naruto jumps in the air making him use the attack easily. It plays a part, because of the speed. Kakashi doesn't transport all of his Kamui's with ease. I will not deny that his Kamui can transport a human being, but first the person won't let themselves stick there waiting to be killed. They will attack and if there attacks are like Naruto, Sasuke, Raikage, etc... The user of the Kamui won't have an easy time.

Don't compare Naruto to a humanoid Susanoo, because Sasuke's Susanoo is surrounded by a wide and large Susanoo. I don't see Kamui transporting this away, unless Sasuke's let himself wide open for the attack. Madara won't be any easier. His Susanoo is a x100 times bigger than Sasuke's-- it's a gargantuan. Your overestimate his abilities this is the problem with many members in base. Kakashi using a Kamui on a clone is an impressive feat; but it doesn't mean it can Kamui a whole Susanoo. Also, you everyone needs to think for a second that Naruto isn't attacking Kakashi. Do you think it would be that easy to transport a moving target that goes fast like a bullet? So just think about Kakashi isn't fighting 1-on-1 with another person. He's helping Naruto aim attacks at Tobi.
 

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He transported the clone, but it doesn't mean he can transport someone like Sasuke with his Final Susanoo or Madara with PS. It's hard, you do realize you need to focus on the attack. Naruto jumps in the air making him use the attack easily. It plays a part, because of the speed. Kakashi doesn't transport all of his Kamui's with ease. I will not deny that his Kamui can transport a human being, but first the person won't let themselves stick there waiting to be killed. They will attack and if there attacks are like Naruto, Sasuke, Raikage, etc... The user of the Kamui won't have an easy time.

Don't compare Naruto to a humanoid Susanoo, because Sasuke's Susanoo is surrounded by a wide and large Susanoo. I don't see Kamui transporting this away, unless Sasuke's let himself wide open for the attack. Madara won't be any easier. His Susanoo is a x100 times bigger than Sasuke's-- it's a gargantuan. Your overestimate his abilities this is the problem with many members in base. Kakashi using a Kamui on a clone is an impressive feat; but it doesn't mean it can Kamui a whole Susanoo. Also, you everyone needs to think for a second that Naruto isn't attacking Kakashi. Do you think it would be that easy to transport a moving target that goes fast like a bullet? So just think about Kakashi isn't fighting 1-on-1 with another person. He's helping Naruto aim attacks at Tobi.
Basically, all what you're saying is that you don't see Kakashi having enough chakra to teleport Susanoo because it's big, and what i'm saying is that it depends on the amount of chakra he uses on his kamui. If he has enough chakra to create a hole huge enough to warp Susanoo, then he can. I don't see how it's so hard for you to understand.
 

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Basically, all what you're saying is that you don't see Kakashi having enough chakra to teleport Susanoo because it's big, and what i'm saying is that it depends on the amount of chakra he uses on his kamui. If he has enough chakra to create a hole huge enough to warp Susanoo, then he can. I don't see how it's so hard for you to understand.

That's something Kishi has to show Kakashi do. Until then, we go with he can transport a whole human being to another dimension. Besides i don't even know if Kakashi and the rest use food pills to fight constantly.

I understand your point of view, but most of it won't happen. Kakashi's purpose was made for this exact moment. Who cares if he can or can't achieve transporting a whole Susanoo? He won't be stronger than Sasuke at the end of the show. The excessive cheering is getting bothersome to tolerate. You also seem to forget that Kakashi needs to focus his Kamui on the object that will be transported. Sasuke or Madara can use Amaterasu to stop his attempts-- it's not easy to land an attack on a Susanoo user.
 

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That's something Kishi has to show Kakashi do. Until then, we go with he can transport a whole human being to another dimension. Besides i don't even know if Kakashi and the rest use food pills to fight constantly.

I understand your point of view, but most of it won't happen. Kakashi's purpose was made for this exact moment. Who cares if he can or can't achieve transporting a whole Susanoo? He won't be stronger than Sasuke at the end of the show. The excessive cheering is getting bothersome to tolerate. You also seem to forget that Kakashi needs to focus his Kamui on the object that will be transported. Sasuke or Madara can use Amaterasu to stop his attempts-- it's not easy to land an attack on a Susanoo user.
He has already shown he was able to warp a kunai while he was moving at high speed in the air to save Naruto, so clearly focusing is not a problem here. Also you seem to forget that Kakashi is one of the best kage bunshin user in this manga, even able to outsmart Itachi or Pain with it, so even if there was a time to focus like you say, creating this opportunity to focus on the ennemy won't be that difficult for him. Remember that against Pain for example, Deva and Asura path were fighting a clone during a while without knowing, while the real Kakashi was calmly looking the fight and waiting for opportunities.

Also you say that Sasuke must be stronger than Kakashi at the end, but where have i said, he must not be stronger than him? Only problem is that it's not necessarly the case at the moment, but we all know that Sasuke is Narutos rival, so he will definitely be one of the strongest at the end of the manga
 
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