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Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

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Re: "Tobi" = entity using bodies; too many Obito plotholes

Yeah, I agree. But Kishi will probably fill up all the plotholes by using a new plot element. That's what he usually does.
 
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Why you guys are wrong about Obito!

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At the top is the info about Obito Uchiha.

1- Obito "died/supposedly died" at the age of 13.

2- Kakashi right now is 29-30 years old.

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3- Obito is the same age group as Kakashi so right now this "supposedly Obito" should be 29-30 years old as well.

4- The Masked Man/Tobi/Obito attack to the village was when Naruto was born.

5- Naruto right now is 16 years of age.

6- That means by subtracting 16 from 29 or 30 you get 13 and 14 (Obito died when he was 13 so I will continue with 14).

7- So if Obito was the man behind the mask when Masked Man attacked the village he was suppose to be 14 years old by the day of the attack! 1 year after he "supposedly died".

Lets take a look to how fast Obito's body grew!

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This physical change in 1 YEAR! Could it be steroids? I don't think so...

Now about his voice:

This

(Skip to second 22 if you don't want to watch the whole video)

to this

(Skip to second 25 if you don't want to watch the whole video)

Could this be puberty? I don't think so..

There are more points that I can explain here but I want to keep it as short as possible.

My point is there is no way in h3ll this is really Obito, Kishimoto is not that stupid to create such a huge plot-hole. What I think is Obito's body is being used/controlled by Zetsu or Uchiha Madara or even someone else that we don't know about. Thanks for reading, btw please don't be rude if you disagree with me :ice:

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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

hi all , im not on postin very much but listen up pleaze

Tobi's body is that of Obito Uchia some how regenerated by Zetzu
but the soul and the chakara to handle the Sage of 6 paths tools
is a split of Madara , maybe similar to how Orochimaru was able to die in one body but be resurected by a small portion of chakara that was living on in a curse seal ( itachi new this and removed it from saskai ), witch is also the way the 4th Hokagay Minato was alive in Naruto's seal ..

milk that over plz , positive feedback i hope
 
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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

RikuoAmero said:
We know more or less exactly when Kannabi Bridge happened from the official databooks. Kakashi is 26-27 years at the start of the Naruto anime and manga, when Naruto graduates from the Academy. Naruto himself is 12-13 at the time. So subtract 13 years from Kakashi's 27. That gives us 14. Kakashi was thus 14 years old at the time of Naruto's birth. At most, Naruto's birth and Tobi attempting to steal the Kyuubi happens nine months beforehand, because Kakashi Gaiden showed us that Kakashi became a Jonin at age thirteen. They specifically say 13. Which is not a lot of time for Obito to suddenly jump from not good enough to fight against a Chuunin ranked Might Guy to fighting on equal terms with the Fourth Hokage. Other characters have been shown to be prodigious, like Itachi, Kakashi and Naruto...but remember, those characters showed a more or less consistent amount of time for their increase in skills. We know that Obito isn't one of them, that at best he was an average ninja.
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There is nothing in the manga that states the dates of the kanabi Bridge again you are assuming alot there and just for reference Mangaka do help with the Databooks but they can change their minds on things alot depending on how the story progresses and which way they want to take it.

For example one of the most famous Magaka did the very same thing did you know that Akira Toriyama did not originally intend for Goku to be an alien(Saiyan) at all it was something he came up with while writing the manga.

So really everyone can complain about the supposed plot holes they see or whatever they want but in all reality this world and its development is all the work of Masashi Kishimoto and TBH he can do whatever he wants
 
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Re: Why you guys are wrong about Obito!

Ofcourse it don't make sense, but I gave up on logic a long time ago in Naruto I just wanna see the fights
 
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Re: Why you guys are wrong about Obito!

I swear--that song in the Kakashi Gaiden video, Requiem for a Dream, can make ANYthing look badass. LOL
 
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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

y u wat im tried of people saying "dude dont be mad that tobi is obito" im pretty sure the majority of people arent mad im not mad i just think that it doesnt make sense thats all its not like im going to stop reading the manga because of this i just hope that kishi explains this better than he did Izanagi cause that was sht
 
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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

hi all , im not on postin very much but listen up pleaze

Tobi's body is that of Obito Uchia some how regenerated by Zetzu
but the soul and the chakara to handle the Sage of 6 paths tools
is a split of Madara , maybe similar to how Orochimaru was able to die in one body but be resurected by a small portion of chakara that was living on in a curse seal ( itachi new this and removed it from saskai ), witch is also the way the 4th Hokagay Minato was alive in Naruto's seal ..

milk that over plz , positive feedback i hope

its been said by itachi and others that he is Madara just a shell of his formerself, just a cheep replacement body but cloned by Madara's chakara
(just like naruto's clones until that clone chakara is replaced back into the person body again they dont even no what that clone did.. remember when Naruto is taught to expell the clones to retrieve there chakara witch holds their expierences)

pleaze read
 
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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

im liking this madara was masked man 1st dies and then passes this on to obito whom hes been training and teaching since he got crushed, you noticed this as his mask changes when somthing new happens to him, so really he is obito but 1st was madara, there will be a reason why it is him an a big filler for this till then clam down and stop trying to know when you all dont
 
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