(Updated) Itachi vs. Pain breakdown: Stage 1: taijutsu

[dawoodahmad]

First of all, i will introduce you with taijutsu.
Taijutsu is a fighting style that consists of three parts, the user's speed, the user's strength and the user's reflexes.
First Pain's Tajutsu
Pain was very adapt taijutsu user:
Speed

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Pain is good at speed. In his battle with naruto, he was faster than six tails. So his speed should be rated as 6/10

Reflexes

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Pain has ever been the best in reflexes. Like blocking naruto's punches in his sage mode. All his reflexes are just because of all six pains share the same vision. So his refelxes should be rated as 10/10

Strength

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Pain's strength was amazing like blocking a huge bunch of earth. So his strength rated as7/10

Total

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Strength+Speed+Reflexes=7+10+6=22/30

Itachi's Taijutsus
Speed

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Itachi has shown much speed. So it should be rated as 7/10. Description:

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If minato's speed should be 10/10 then raikages would be 9/10 and naruto nine tails chakra mode would be 8/10. remember itachi kept with naruto due to reflexes i.e. ms. he was slower. itachi's speed definitely would be 7/10

Reflexes

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Itachi also had good reflexes but not like that of pain's. So his reflexes should be rated as 6/10

Strength

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Itachi has shown amazing strength but was never able to breat such a thing pain broke. So it should be rated as 5/10

Total

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Strength+Speed+Reflexes=6+7+5=18/30

The Battle
Pain wins in taijutsu.

 

[Jukain]

Actually pein was just as fast as the six tails.....

 

[markdabomb22]

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[Gatsuuga]

I disagree with Pains/ Itachi's speed rating. Pain was able to run a considerable distance away from the 6-tails pursuing yet it didn't catch him. 6-tails can move very fast to the point it looks like body flicker, so pain is obviously very fast.

Also in your rating of Itachi you said raikages speed is 9 yet narutos is 8. This is wrong since naruto is faster then the raikage. Itachi has the fastest hand seals in the series but in terms of actual speed he isn't that fast.

 

[-The Agent-]

How are you going to rate speed by comparing him to a Semi-Biju... This is where I stopped reading the thread. Saying Pain's speed is 4/10 because he couldn't keep up with the 6 tails? When in fact he was keeping up with the 6 and he even trapped the full 9 tails in Chibaku Tensei...

 

[dawoodahmad]

How are you going to rate speed by comparing him to a Semi-Biju... This is where I stopped reading the thread. Saying Pain's speed is 4/10 because he couldn't keep up with the 6 tails? When in fact he was keeping up with the 6 and he even trapped the full 9 tails in Chibaku Tensei...

ok, i'm goind to edit it to 6.

 

[itachiamaterasu]

you can't compare the two..

pains speed.. hes just as fast as the 6 tails.
itachi's reflexes.. he maneuvered in mid air against sasuke in their taijutsu fight.

itachi and nagato are evenly matched in their own separate ways. they cannot defeat each other.
nagato has too strong of a ninjutsu and itachi has too strong of a genjutsu.
nagato does not have rinnegan to escape from it like sasuke did.
and we don't know how itachi will do against the planetary devastation by himself with the susano'o
all this will never be shown unless kishi shows us himself, he obviously made it so they're both evenly matched. and made them not fight together in a 1 on 1 situation because it would of made the battle with naruto and sasuke look like shit

 

[sindi1997]

you can't compare the two..

pains speed.. hes just as fast as the 6 tails.
itachi's reflexes.. he maneuvered in mid air against sasuke in their taijutsu fight.

itachi and nagato are evenly matched in their own separate ways. they cannot defeat each other.
nagato has too strong of a ninjutsu and itachi has too strong of a genjutsu.
nagato does not have rinnegan to escape from it like sasuke did.
and we don't know how itachi will do against the planetary devastation by himself with the susano'o
all this will never be shown unless kishi shows us himself, he obviously made it so they're both evenly matched. and made them not fight together in a 1 on 1 situation because it would of made the battle with naruto and sasuke look like shit

This /thread

 

[NeedAnime]

Ppppaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnn

 

[Takos]

Geez... Itachi vs Nagato again... No, Itachi won't be able to pull it off.

 

[Imm0rtal bAstard]

Itachi's stats according to third databook:

Ninjutsu 5
Taijutsu 4.5
Genjutsu 5
Intelligence 5
Strength 3.5
Speed 5
Stamina 2.5
Hand seals 5
Total 35.5

No such info on Nagato/Pain, though.

 

[Fluffyman]

Im NOT saying that Itachi would win for sure but he def. got better reflexes/speed.

Pain kept up with 6 Tails.
Itachi kept up with Lightning(!). Thats REALLY serious business there.

Reflexwise nothing can keep up with a good Sharingan user because it slows down everything you see, you may not get faster but everything around you gets slower = More time to react = Better reflexes.
This fits perfectly with the Mangekyo Sharingan techniques because even if his body wont be able to keep up with the information from his eyes, the eyes itself (Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu/Susano´o) will be able.

Itachi is miles above Pain in speed and reflexes, Pain on the other side got the upperhand at raw strength.


Ofc this is only for Taijutsu, Taijutsu isnt the only aspect of a fight.

 

[khaydz5]

Im NOT saying that Itachi would win for sure but he def. got better reflexes/speed.

Pain kept up with 6 Tails.
Itachi kept up with Lightning(!). Thats REALLY serious business there.

Reflexwise nothing can keep up with a good Sharingan user because it slows down everything you see, you may not get faster but everything around you gets slower = More time to react = Better reflexes.
This fits perfectly with the Mangekyo Sharingan techniques because even if his body wont be able to keep up with the information from his eyes, the eyes itself (Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu/Susano´o) will be able.

Itachi is miles above Pain in speed and reflexes, Pain on the other side got the upperhand hat raw strength.


Ofc this is only for Taijutsu, Taijutsu isnt the only aspect of a fight.

lol it was already stated in the manga that no one can defeat the 6 paths of pain against taijutsu.

sage mode jiraiya gave up on trying against just 3 paths. itachi will be killed in seconds if he tries to fight 6paths all at once with just taijutsu.