Last chance to take BETS on who TOBI really is

[bettin]

according to me tobi is the feudal lord of the konoha village . I m 100% sure. :ice:

 

[hearteaterx]

My vote is for... Nawaki, Tsunade's younger brother!

 

[Mime]

Lol.

Come on guys. It's not gonna be anything to do with madara. Madara stated that he was against kabuto and tobi in the battle with the kage. Izuma just doesn't make any sense. Madara stole his eyes. That's all there is to it.
And when I say stole, I mean got them peacefully from his brother by gougin his eyes out. Shisui. No. You guys should know this. Danzo got one of Shisui's eyes, and itachi has the other one. Do you expect Shisui to just walk blind and luckily find someone with sharing an? No. Just no. Kagami? I don't think he spoke once in the ONE chapter he was in. So, I don't think it would be him. Now. I think it's Obito. Tobi's first mask did have the hole on the RIGHT side, which happens to be the side Obito got crushed on. Hence why his face looks ****ed up. They don't say what happened to Rin, and Kakashi did say something about not being able to save her. So she could've got murdered, by Obito, then Obito getting Mangekyo. Also, tobi seemed to have a grudge on Kakashi, and Kakashi... Flashed back to the gravestone, so maybe even Kakashi suspects Obito. There is also the fact Kakashi said each sharingan had its own dimension. Meaning it is obito's eye. Now you'd probably say, "oh, someone could've took it." ..... Who would want a Sharingan that was JUST awoken. It didn't say Obito was the best in school either. Meaning, nobody would THINK he has talent. There were plenty of other sharingans someone could've picked at that time. But I guess a thirteen year olds undeveloped sharingan would be fine. Totally.

Also, I'm suprized. Nobody mentioned anything with the name yet. Maybe for the fact that names probably wouldn't have anything to do with it. But look at it.

Tobi.
Obito.
...
Put the T in the front and remove the last O.
Obito
Tobio
Tobi.
......................
The name is just too obvious for me. But it could be a fluke...

All those future sasuke, Kakashi, anyone... You're thinking too far ahead. Sons or brothers... Just... No.

It has to Obito. Otherwise it has to be ton-ton, the ramen cook, or the cat that naruto Sakura and sasuke chased down. Because, that cat needs vengeance.

Then again, it could be Mizuki... Or ... POOCHI!!! Ever since Inari didn't save him from those bullies, poochi has sworn vengeance on the ninja world...

Just forget it. It's obviously Obito, and you guys know it.:sy:

 

[DietyOfWind]

i'm also thinking that the wrinkles people saw on tobis face could be from the goggles that obito used to wear.

 

[alexu9696]

Its Izuna Uchiha now all of you go to sleep

Spoiler

Criteria For Tobi’s Identity

1) He is from the time of Hashirama Senju, and needs to be someone the Kyuubi would instantly recognize.

He is instantly recognized by the Kyuubi, who as far as we know has been sealed away in an Uzumaki jinchuuriki ever since the battle at the Valley of the End, where Uzumaki Mito sealed it into herself. There are no reports of the Kyuubi having broken free aside from in Yondaime’s time. This means that Tobi is someone the Kyuubi met during the time of Hashirama.

Given the way in which he speaks of past events, he has first-hand knowledge of and was emotionally investment in the Uchiha/Senju conflict.

Izuna fits: Uchiha Izuna was from this time period, and for obvious reasons, was personally and emotionally invested in fighting the Senju.

2) He has to have a credible reason for being pissed off at the Uchiha’s making peace with the Senju, and needs to be personally, emotionally invested in Uchiha Izuna’s eyes being given to Uchiha Madara.

“What kind of monster would hurt his beloved younger brother?! All I ever wanted was to protect the Uchiha clan! […] My younger brother accepted his role and willingly gave his eyes to me….[Tobi clenches his arms in anger]. What happened to the hatred we had for them?! What did my brother sacrifice his eyes for?!”

Izuna fits: He has ample reason to be pissed off at the Uchiha, even more so than Uchiha Madara; he sacrificed his eyes and possibly his life to give Madara the EMS in order to protect the Uchiha in their fight against the Senju, only to have them go and make peace? Why did he sacrifice his eyes and his life for them, then?!

3) He has a credible reason for claiming that the eyes Nagato had “were [his] to begin with.”

Izuna fits: If we accept the likelihood that Nagato’s eyes used to be Uchiha Madara’s (who is the only person we know which awakened the Rinnegan), then we also accept that Nagato’s eyes originally belonged to Uchiha Izuna’s, as we know that Uchiha Madara’s EMS eyes originally belonged to Izuna. Izuna fits this perfectly; no one else has a better credible reason to claim Nagato’s eyes “were his to begin with” than Izuna.

4) He needs to be a person whom Uchiha Madara will trust with his own life and rebirth.

Madara trusted Tobi to bring him back to life with Nagato’s powers. This is a major deal. Who would the great Uchiha Madara trust with his own life?

If we accept Madara’s statement that he awakened the Rinnegan shortly before his death, then this also means that he had only a very short period of time to transplant the Rinnegan into child Nagato. This means that he was 100%, utterly dependent on Tobi to carry out the ‘plan’ he mentioned to Kabuto, which included his resurrection.

Madara also gave Tobi access to the Hashirama-related power which he had nearly died for; an incredible show of trust.

Izuna fits: He is Uchiha Madara’s younger brother, and brotherly ties are a major focal point of this manga. We know that Rinnei Tensei can bring the dead back to life, and we know that Uchiha Madara gained the Rinnegan before dying. It would make sense if he used the Rinnegan to bring back Izuna.

Counter-Argument: Nagato wasn’t able to bring back Jiraiya because he had died too long ago! How could Madara bring back Izuna, who had died even longer ago!

Response: Uchiha Madara planned to use Nagato to bring himself back to life. If we accept that Madara died while Nagato was a child (which is necessary, as Nagato was given the Rinnegan as a child), and that Nagato was expected to ‘grow’ into his power, then this shows Madara thought it was fully possible for Nagato to resurrect him, despite years having passed. Which indicates that it is also fully possible for Madara to resurrect Izuna, despite years having passed.

5) He needs to have a credible grudge against Konoha, and has to have waited a long time for his vengeance against Konoha.
Spoken to Kushina: “Do you have any idea how long I’ve waited for this moment?!”

Izuna fits: His reason for a grudge against Konoha are obvious and profound; he gave his eyes to fight against the Senju who controlled the village, then eventually expelled his brother out from it. If we accept that he died or was maimed back in Hashirama’s days, then he has been waiting a long, long time indeed for his vengeance.

6) Tobi needs to be an Uchiha.

Although not Madara, Tobi still needs to have an Uchiha’s body; he uses the sharingan with expertise not seen outside a native Uchiha, and does not appear to have any problems with his body not being suited for the sharingan.

Izuna fits: Self-explanatory.

7) Tobi has to have a credible reason for being at least partly made out of Zetsu goo, even as far back as the fight with Yondaime.

Izuna somewhat fits: Tobi claims that Uchiha Izuna died in battle after losing his eyes. Knowing that Rinnei Tensi is capable of bringing the dead back, and also knowing that Zetsu goo is based off of Hashirama’s DNA, it’s credible that for Madara to bring Izuna back, he had to use Zetsu goo for whatever reason. Admittedly, more data is required here.

8) He has an old, wrinkly face, despite being partially made out of Zetsu goo.

Izuna fits: If we accept that Izuna was brought back to life with the Rinnegan while Nagato was a child, then at least 30+ years have passed, as we know that Nagato (being Jiraiya’s first disciple) should be as old or older than Minato. If Izuna was brought back in a partially ‘real’ body which aged, and if he had died in his 20’s, then he would now be in his 50’s or 60’s, explaining the wrinkly face. This is also supported by the fact that he indicates if Itachi knew some of his secrets, the Amaterasu would have killed him, indicating that at least part of him was non-Zetsu goo and thus vulnerable to being killed.

 

[SilverSlick]

Jesus christ, 207 people viewing this thread.

 

[rikankhaos]

Lol.


Also, I'm suprized. Nobody mentioned anything with the name yet. Maybe for the fact that names probably wouldn't have anything to do with it. But look at it.

Tobi.
Obito.
...
Put the T in the front and remove the last O.
Obito
Tobio
Tobi.
......................
The name is just too obvious for me. But it could be a fluke...

.:sy:

*Yawn* Oh wait im suppost to comment on this. When the idea of who tobi was in NB that was mentioned. Next what in the 2 blue moons are you talkin about. Now if you would go by names tobimaru would be more acceptable than obito.

 

[MythicChronos]

I think it is going to be Izuna Uchiha

 

[kuvhlubkoj]

Who would want a Sharingan that was JUST awoken.

Someone smart enough to know about Uchiha genetics; meaning that person knew about Obito's sharingan/mangekyou capabilities. Someone as smart as.....Tobi

It's not Obito, that's redonkROFLkilous

 

[Mime]

Someone smart enough to know about Uchiha genetics; meaning that person knew about Obito's sharingan/mangekyou capabilities. Someone as smart as.....Tobi

It's not Obito, that's redonkROFLkilous

Depends who Tobi is. If Tobi is indeed the schoolgirl that he is, he wouldn't know anything, being the oh so preoccupied horny schoolgirl he is.

 

[King Cobra]

I'm sticking with the guy I said from the beginning Izuna!!!

 

[kuvhlubkoj]

i'm also thinking that the wrinkles people saw on tobis face could be from the goggles that obito used to wear.

Go look at your grandma or grandpa's face, they have wrinkles under their eyes because they're really old folks! Tobi has wrinkles because he is an old fart. I'm not surprised if he is well over 100+ years old with some kind of re-animation/body longevity/body switch similar to Orochimaru. Tobi does know everything about the senju/uchiha/konoha from day 1, so i am not surprised he has survived all these years.

 

[MythicChronos]

Izuna I will know in like 4 hours

 

[Draw]

half obito half madara and zetsu thrown in there somewhere

 

[Uchiha Kenshin]

Izuna all the way

 

[DietyOfWind]

What would izuna have to do with all the hints tobi's been dropping to kakashi about rin and obito also how would obitos eye survive the rock and how would the eye pattern not change as well as who did he kill for ems then and why wouldnt he just remove his mask already.furthermore what would possibly be damaged or missing about his body except his eyes.If tobi is izuna then why would he even be so old looking he gets new body parts via zetsu all the time and furthermore how would an old dude keep up with minato he would have passed his prime. plus old people got wrinkles everywhere not just their face and the way he is its like his body is young just look at his arms and back the back was shown when the fourth rasenganed him it looked like it was baby but smooth i seriously doubt izuna would be alive this long he would be in his pratical 80s which doesn't seem to compute with the speed of his battle abilities.

 

[Rovian]

Izuna is who I think he is, he lied to Sasuke about telling him his true identity, he told him that Izuna died the moment he gave Madara his eyes, well.. perhaps he didn't, and Tobi is actually Izuna.

That's the closest guess I could gather until today's chapter release.

 

[Bogard]

Maybe Tobi is younger son of SO6P. My reasons? Here are my reasons:

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[New Era]

kagami

 

[DietyOfWind]

i think people are missing the point about obito's eye and are believing that anyone can be immortal now.