Why do you not want/be mad if tobi is obito?

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Because it has more plotholes and fanfiction than any other theory. There is nothing to suggest that Madara was interested in Obito for example or that he magically awakened his MS before death.

Other theories are more plausible and will require less BSing to make sense is the only reason xd
 

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It would make much more sense than some random Kagami stuff IMO. No one knows about Kagami, so his identity reveal would be lame.

Very true, but obito connects more with the current characters, you have seen all the references with kakashi

It's too obvious

Too obvious??? It's only been for the last 4 chapters. Have you forgotten how long we thought he was uchiha madara. It was from the second he said it to the second madara stepped on that cliff.

Would you be happy if kishi gave all the hints of him being obito and revealed him all in one chapter??

To me that would be tooo random and that would be trolling and pulling it out of his ass.
 

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You have no proof, I have no proof. All we know is it was long enough for the characters to change outfits and for them to obtain their adult voices and long enough for them to become taller. So to me that's basically the same 3 yr time skip kishi did for naruto.

I'm making a time line of Naruto, I have proof, wait a second. . .
 

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Because it has more plotholes and fanfiction than any other theory. There is nothing to suggest that Madara was interested in Obito for example or that he magically awakened his MS before death.

Other theories are more plausible and will require less BSing to make sense is the only reason xd

By that logic, "izuna has more plot holes then kagami so if it's izuna im gonna flip" what the hell? Obviously kishi is not going to make it obvious who tobi is he put the plot holes in himself
 

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I'd be mad if he is Obito because Tobi is old as F*CK in the face, please explain how he aged 2wice as fast as Kakashi.
 

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On the start of the series Kakashi has 26 years, he becomes Jōnin at age of 13.

26 - 13 = 13

Kakashi is 13 years old when the Third World War ends, that is when Obito died - 13 Years Before Series Start

Tobi VS Minato - 12 Years Before Series Start - The attack of the Nine-Taild fox
 

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Yes, i'll be mad if Tobi is Obito.

Might as well change the name to Naruto: Plothole Chronicles eh?
 

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I don't want Tobi to be Obito because Obito looks like the kind of guy who wouldn't want to hurt anybody, but is he is, what is his purpose? :shrug: and he's one of my favorite characters U_U
 

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You guys need to get one thing... it's obvious that the less we know about a character, the less plotholes would be if they turned out to be Tobi.

That's why Kagami has no plot holes, because he is someone no one cares about.
Izuna has more plot holes, because he is more well known.
Obito has the most plot holes, because we know the most about him. And if he turned out to be Tobi, Tobi's identity reveal would be the most emotional and exciting out of all these three options.
 

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I'd be mad if he is Obito because Tobi is old as F*CK in the face, please explain how he aged 2wice as fast as Kakashi.

Have you seen the left said of his face the side that was not crushed by a rock..

On the start of the series Kakashi has 26 years, he becomes Jōnin at age of 13.

26 - 13 = 13

Kakashi is 13 years old when the Third World War ends, that is when Obito died - 13 Years Before Series Start

Tobi VS Minato - 12 Years Before Series Start - The attack of the Nine-Taild fox

If tobi is obito im gonna be mad :mad:
But then again kakashi was Jōnin at 13 and itachi wiped out his clan at 13 so hmm

Yes, i'll be mad if Tobi is Obito.

Might as well change the name to Naruto: Plothole Chronicles eh?

All the theories have plot holes, it is up to kishi to solve those plot holes AFTERRR tobi is revealed not before
 

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If tobi is obito im gonna be mad :mad:
But then again kakashi was Jōnin at 13 and itachi wiped out his clan at 13 so hmm

You changed you mind?!
 

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You changed you mind?!

If it was obito I understand he being able to use his MS efficiently at 16 just like sasuke is now. But at 14? :mad: Kishi has some explaining to do.

But that doesn't mean I don't want him to be obito, kishi just better clear everything up if he is.
 
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If it was obito I understand he being able to use his MS efficiently at 16 just like sasuke is now. But at 14? :mad: Kishi has some explaining to do.

But that doesn't mean I don't want him to be obito, kishi just better clear everything up if he is.

Well arguing doesn't solve anything, we will see who it is in one of the two upcoming chapters, I guess. :y :D
 

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Predictable?! I think people are forgetting how long we thought he was uchiha madara for and also all the things to say he is not obito

I never thought he was actually Madara :\

For a while I thought he was Obito, but in recent chapters I feel that Kishi is making it too obvious that he wants us to THINK it's Obito. Just so he can troll us when he actually reveals Tobi's face.

At the moment I have absolutely no clue who Tobi is, but I think the best bets would be Izuna, or a Zetsu clone of Madara.
 

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I think that it would be better if it was Kagami versus Obito based on the following:

We all know that the previous generations of ninjas were much stronger than the current ones, prime example Hirashima, Madara, Hiruzen, Tobirama, and some of the first-second-third gen Kages from the Stone, Cloud, and look at Hanzo (took on the three Sunin, even named them and had the upper hand but decided to let them live now that's some power).
I say that to say that it is possible and would make more sense plus better story that Kagami is Tobi. Kagami trained and fought along side the best of the best and might even have met the real Madara as a child. So Kagami could have been really powerful he was on the same team of the Anbu Black Ops that Tobirama "2nd Hokage" lead and Hiruzen "3rd Hokage" was on (oh yeah and Danzo).

And some of you have already mentioned that Obito dying at that time as a weak and young ninja only to come back a year or two later to take on the 4th Hokage???? That doesn't even make sense, you dont get those types of skills within a year or two. We and they make such a big deal out of Minato's power and potential he had especially being the 4th Hokage, it would just take away from the Manga if it ends up being someone as simple as Obito.

Now here is a thought, what if Kagami was Obito's father so he knew the types of powers his son had and knew everything about his death and that would explain how Kagami knew all about Obito and the Leaf village.

It just makes more sense if Kagami is Tobi point blank.

If Tobi is Obito that means the 4th Hokage is weak! And now that I mention it, Tobi doesn't seem to be that powerful considering what we have seen from Madara, or Nagato, Orochimaru, Jiaraya, the members of the Akatski, the dead Kages of the Edo Tensi, and Kabuto or the old man Kage of the stone Onoki lets not forget Itachi. All Tobi really has been doing this entire time is spamming Kamu? and He has a mouth piece seeing that he has been manipulating everyone by lying. Tobi hasn't done anything explosive or really displayed any cleverly appealing skills to make you say Wow! that was pretty awesome, no black flames no elements no real Tijutsu no special bone/crystal/sand/glass/iron powers no nothing which has been boring. What happened to the good old days when we couldn't wait to see what new technique Orochimaru, his gang, or the Akatski was going to throw out?
 

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By that logic, "izuna has more plot holes then kagami so if it's izuna im gonna flip" what the hell? Obviously kishi is not going to make it obvious who tobi is he put the plot holes in himself


Let's just say that there are plot holes, and there are things that need to be explained. By definition, Plot Holes are inconsistencies in storytelling that can only make sense if what was previously established is overwritten by a new event.

Both Kagami and Izuna have little to no plot holes, just things that need explaining. Obito on the other hand, no matter how Kishi spins it, would have to overwrite several things that have already been established.
 

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I don't want Tobi to be Obito because Obito looks like the kind of guy who wouldn't want to hurt anybody, but is he is, what is his purpose? :shrug: and he's one of my favorite characters U_U

Tobi said "I want to create a world were heroes don't have to make apologies in front of graveyards." Ermm hello motive??

I never thought he was actually Madara :\

For a while I thought he was Obito, but in recent chapters I feel that Kishi is making it too obvious that he wants us to THINK it's Obito. Just so he can troll us when he actually reveals Tobi's face.

At the moment I have absolutely no clue who Tobi is, but I think the best bets would be Izuna, or a Zetsu clone of Madara.

Yh right, and it's called build up kishi has to do it or if he done it randomly in one chapter and revealed who tobi was people would call him a troll. Even I would because it would be to random.
 

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Have you seen the left said of his face the side that was not crushed by a rock..



If tobi is obito im gonna be mad :mad:
But then again kakashi was Jōnin at 13 and itachi wiped out his clan at 13 so hmm



All the theories have plot holes, it is up to kishi to solve those plot holes AFTERRR tobi is revealed not before
You know what's funny.....

People try to measure how powerful Itachi was at the age he assassinated his clan but we have to remember that he did this while most of them were sleeping.

I have to wonder what would Madara think about that lol I know one thing is for sure, if there were ninjas as powerful or even close to Madara, Itachi would have been in Edo mode at age 13 LMAO!

Sooooo what does this say about the Uchia clan...... hmmmm that their clan in the end was really weak, they must not have had very skilled and promising ninjas, their stong ninjas must have been lacking for some reason?
Think about it for a second, I don't care how powerful you are at age 13 you shouldn't be able to knock off the all might Uchia clan all by yourself even if they are sleeping, damn ninjas sleep with one eye open right lol.
 

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Kakashi was stronger than Obito... then a year later, "Obito" comes and fights 4th Hokage with Kurama under his control?
cool story bro
 

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If Tobi turns out to be Obito, it'll probably be explained that Obito had a jutsu used on him to heal his body but it made him age into an older man. That's the only way I could see Tobi being Obito.
 
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