Do people not pay attention to the uchiha massacre or Danzo???!

[KingGolDragon]

Ok this is really annoying now. Every time a person mentions the Uchiha massacre as something the Leaf did wrong.... People get butt hurt and start saying it was Justified. NO KILLING OF INNOCENT KIDS BE JUSTIFIED.

And also where the hell do you people get, that Uchiha weren't ready to talk?? THE MANGA SHOWS THAT SARUTOBI WANTED TO TALK , BUT THE OTHER 3 WERE BUTT HURT BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE LOOSING POWER.

Clarifications:

1. the coup didn't = WAR.
2. Uchiha had not been negotiated with, (another reason for their coup).
3. The whole point of the coup was to NEGOTIATE a deal.
4. The "War" was all up to the Hokage ,Danzo and the other 2.
5. Itachi even admits he ****ed up..
6. Uchiha loved the village
7. Uchiha were doing a coup against the "Goverment" not the VILLAGE.



PLEASE O PLEASE show me one clip or page showing they were "Evil".
THEY DIDN'T EVEN DECIDE TO GO AGAINST ITACHI.....Which just makes Danzo look like a moron.


Its already been stated by Danzo that , Even if the coup doesn't lead to war the uchiha must still be eliminated.....

Going to coup the government does not mean you are going against the country. PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO STAND UP TO THE ONES WHO GOVERN THEM ESPECIALLY IF THAT GOVERNMENT HAS CORRUPTION.



Please first read about the Massacre and then talk about it. Instead of being a Danzo follower.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

when you aim for the higher up's the village steps up to support them

 

[kakashi isboss]

i think it was unjustifed to and how do you make a theard

 

[lord tobi]

well you are right there but sasuke is a *** and the uchiha where going to kill the whole village and take control if it was not for danzo decision

 

[Kenpai]

So...your point is having a coup does not result in war?

 

[Champ]

I have a problem why the Konoha elders didn't ask danzo what happen to him why is his eye & arm wrapped up in bandages, when they where younger he didnt look like that. I have a hard time believing no one wondered why his arm had a lock on it

 

[OnPoint]

If the kids hadn't have been slaughtered, you'd have multiple 'Sasukes' all seeking revenge.

 

[GeniusStyleUser]

when a revolution occurs civil war happens.
the village was too weak to be fighting a civil war at the time, just coming out of the third ninja war.
if there were any signs of village instability, the villages enemies would have hopped on it, causing the 4th great ninja war much sooner.

 

[lol99]

If the kids hadn't have been slaughtered, you'd have multiple 'Sasukes' all seeking revenge.

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[KingGolDragon]

when you aim for the higher up's the village steps up to support them

Wrong. Not if those Higher ups are Wrong. People have shown the tendency to go with their fellow citizens more rather then higher ups.

i think it was unjustifed to and how do you make a theard

click the "thread tools" button in the forum and click "new thread"

well you are right there but sasuke is a *** and the uchiha where going to kill the whole village and take control if it was not for danzo decision

Yes i agree on sasuke. But Uchiha were not going to kill. I already explained this. There is no proof of them killing. If they wanted to kill they would have atleast fought Itachi.

So...your point is having a coup does not result in war?

yes that is the point

 

[AP2k]

"a coup does not equal war". What? Yes a coup does equal war, that's you know, the point of a coup.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

I have a problem why the Konoha elders didn't ask danzo what happen to him why is his eye & arm wrapped up in bandages, when they where younger he didnt look like that. I have a hard time believing no one wondered why his arm had a lock on it

They can ask him all they want...that doesnt mean he would show him his eye.
Or he could have temporarily controlled them with shisui's eye. But then again he cant control them all.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

i get your point killing ederly and children can never be justified no matter what the means

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

If the coup was to occur then war would be inevitable. It was even confirmed by

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Furthermore, the safety and well being of the whole village was much more important than one clan. Danzo took a Utilitarian approach, the greatest good for the greatest number.

 

[|Apathy|]

I have a problem why the Konoha elders didn't ask danzo what happen to him why is his eye & arm wrapped up in bandages, when they where younger he didnt look like that. I have a hard time believing no one wondered why his arm had a lock on it

They probably did question him, but he told a lie of some sort that may it justified his appearance in some way. As long time friends they may have not wanted it to escalate into a full blown argument, and probably thought it best to just "go with it" rather than continuing questioning it. At least, that is how I think may have happened.

 

[Kenpai]

Idk if you're having a coup it means that you're basically instigating war. If you're going against the gov't the people that approve of the gov't will be against you. For all we know the Uchiha was on their own. So that is like 3-4 clans plus fodder against you.

It depends if they were going to assasinate someone sercertly or just out right kill the governing heads of the village. I don't think they would have a coup and stay in the village. It was going to lead to bloodshed anyway based on the history of the Uchiha.

But I can see what you're saying though.

 

[Ino96]

The Uchiha clan massacre was totally unfair. The elders should have ordered the murder of the people that were planning the coup d'etat only, not innocent people and children.
They were scared of their power and the sharingan.

 

[Champ]

They can ask him all they want...that doesnt mean he would show him his eye.
Or he could have temporarily controlled them with shisui's eye. But then again he cant control them all.

That probably did question him, but he told a lie of some sort that may it justified his appearance in some way. As long time friends they may have not wanted it to escalate into a full blown argument, and probably thought it best to just "go with it" rather than continuing questioning it. At least, that is how I think may have happened.

Not good enough for me especially when you have Byakugan users who would notice the sharingan in his eye

 

[KingGolDragon]

I have a problem why the Konoha elders didn't ask danzo what happen to him why is his eye & arm wrapped up in bandages, when they where younger he didnt look like that. I have a hard time believing no one wondered why his arm had a lock on it

Same here. Its like Sarutobi knew what Danzo was doing.. yet he didn't give a crap. But its just too suspicious.

when a revolution occurs civil war happens.
the village was too weak to be fighting a civil war at the time, just coming out of the third ninja war.
if there were any signs of village instability, the villages enemies would have hopped on it, causing the 4th great ninja war much sooner.

Uh no, That is up to the people.. Do you really believe the UCHIHA the people who helped make village would do something like that?? Probably not. Sarutobi saw nothing against sitting down and talking.. so your saying that Danzo's decision was better then sarutobi's?

If there is any sign on instability the villages will attack.. hmmm I wonder where they all have been when Oro attacked...lmao.

"a coup does not equal war". What? Yes a coup does equal war, that's you know, the point of a coup.

Point of the coup is not War. This was already explained in the manga also.

Sarutobi - " If We start a Civil war with the Uchiha, it won't go easily."


Coup: is the sudden, illegal deposition of a government, usually by a small group of the existing state establishment—typically the military—to depose the extant government and replace it with another body, civil or military.

 

[AP2k]

Not good enough for me especially when you have Byakugan users who would notice the sharingan in his eye

I'd imagine he had some kind of chakra supressor hiding it. Hence why it didn't drain his chakra.