Last thoughts for tobi theories?

Tobi is most likely to be

  • Shisui

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Izuna

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Kagami

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Obito

    Votes: 5 38.5%

  • Total voters
    13

SpaceSage

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
649
Reaction score
45
Obviously tobis masked has been smashed finally and its not too long till he shows his face. Kishi has gave away many clues to the possibilities to this charcter but now is probably the last time people get to predict who tobi really is. I have seen many theories but the closest ones would be that tobi is Shisui, Obito or Kagami.

What are your thoughts after seen the new manga and what are your last thoughts on who tobi is.
 

TheAwesomeOne

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 4, 2012
Messages
1,023
Reaction score
77
We still wont know after we see his face... They'll have to explain
 

AP2k

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jun 25, 2012
Messages
5,089
Reaction score
523
Did you REALLY just make this thread?
 

Hattake Ryuzaki

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
1,720
Reaction score
156
reasons why hes not obito.

Plothole Number 1: Tobi’s Power Level (chapters 500-504).
There is no way Obito could turn into an alpha dog shinobi who mastered S/T phasing and teleportation within a 1-2 year time frame. At 15 years old? No way... There is also no way Obito would know how to extract the Kyuubi, hypnotize it, control it like a puppet, and then summon it wherever the hell he wants to. And all of this is supposed to have happened 1-2 years after Obito supposedly died? That’s just not feasible.

Plothole Number 2: Personality U-turn (chapter 241 page 19).
"Of course those in the ninja world who break the rules and regulations are called trash... but those who don’t care about their companions are even worse than trash." Will of Fire talk from Obito. It makes no sense for.
him to suddenly manifest this unwavering vendetta against Konoha unless Tobi is just using Obito’s body as a vessel, in which case, Tobi isn’t really Obito anyway because his soul and spirit have nothing to do with it.

Plothole Number 3: Kushina Quote (chapter 501 page 7).
"Do you have ANY idea how long I’ve waited for this moment?" It’s a complete contradiction for Obito to say something like that when, hypothetically, he wouldn’t have been alive long enough to make that type of comment because Obito would have been 15 years old if he fought Minato. Tobi has probably had to wait DECADES for the opportunity to extract the Kyuubi from its host.

Plothole Number 4: Kyuubi recognised Tobi (chapter 501 page 8).
The Kyuubi actually recognises Tobi and possibly knows who he is. If THAT doesn’t convince you, nothing will. The Kyuubi made a direct transfer from being sealed into Mito to being sealed into Kushina, so there is a fundamental contradiction for the Kyuubi to recognise anyone in the outside world when it was sealed for all that time. If the Kyuubi actually recognised Tobi, it means Tobi has to be someone who was alive during Hashirama/Madara’s generation.

Plothole Number 5: Tobi is too tall (chapter 503 page 9).
Tobi was shown to be adult sized when he fought Minato, chapter 503 page 5. But on page 9, Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai are all shown to be much shorter as they are going through adolescence. Obito would have been around that size and is therefore too short to be Tobi.

Plothole Number 6: Minato would’ve figured it out (chapter 500-504).
If Tobi was really Obito, then Minato would have figured it out when they were fighting each other. Obito was Minato’s own student and would have recognised his chakra, but he didn’t.

Plothole Number 7: This is HIS doing (chapter 560 page 2).
"This is HIS doing." That means Madara knows exactly who Tobi is, but there is no way Madara could have worked with Obito because Madara had died already. We know this because by the time Nagato gets Madara's Rinnegan from Tobi, Madara is officially dead - "I awakened these eyes shortly before my death." (chapter 560 page 15). This is important because Nagato is older than Minato, and Minato is older than Obito.

Plothole Number 8: Hashirama Comparison (chapter 462 page 14).
Tobi says to Naruto "I can see the first Hokage in you." To make that type of comparison Tobi must have known what Hashirama was like as a person. Problem is, Hashirama was dead before Obito was born.

Plothole Number 9: During Our Battle (chapter 512 page 9).
"This is something I grew from living tissue I stole from him during our battle." Kabuto already revealed the Madara coffin so there was no reason for Tobi to keep lying. So if Tobi actually had a fight with Hashirama there is no way he could be Obito.

Plothole Number 10: Too Much Knowledge.
It is impossible for Obito to know so much about the bloody history between the Senju clan and the Uchiha clan before Konoha was even established as a shinobi village. Tobi has to be someone from that generation. It is also impossible for Obito to know so much about Rikudou Sennin, his sons, the Bijuu and the Juubi.

THE BIGGEST PLOTHOLE OF THEM ALL.

Plothole Number 11: Nagato is much older than Obito.

Why is this important? Because Tobi GAVE Nagato the Rinnegan. In other words, it is impossible for Obito to have given kid Nagato the Rinnegan because Obito is much younger than Nagato.
 

Akatsuki wise guy

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
3,171
Reaction score
130
It is either izuna in obito's body or izuna with obito's eye only.
 

-Hatake-

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 8, 2011
Messages
4,771
Reaction score
239
You must be registered for see images
 

Prime Rib

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
8,900
Reaction score
208
its izuna or kagami for sure, and its def not obito, tobi is old as dirt, obito is kakashi age
 

Beifong

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Aug 25, 2011
Messages
12,662
Reaction score
546
i just made the same thread and all what i got neg rep and the thread is deleted
 

Sicnesse

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jul 18, 2012
Messages
950
Reaction score
166
This pic is will be my signature next weak (well, I hope)

You must be registered for see images
 

AlexM123

Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2012
Messages
304
Reaction score
33
I have a weird feeling that tobi is gonna be a senju. The only reason i have to support this is his skin tone cuz its very close to hashirama's, although it is possible that this is the result of the dna tobi took. IDK. i guess I'll just wait until next week xd
 

LBeezy

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
May 17, 2012
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
139
reasons why hes not obito.

Plothole Number 1: Tobi’s Power Level (chapters 500-504).
There is no way Obito could turn into an alpha dog shinobi who mastered S/T phasing and teleportation within a 1-2 year time frame. At 15 years old? No way... There is also no way Obito would know how to extract the Kyuubi, hypnotize it, control it like a puppet, and then summon it wherever the hell he wants to. And all of this is supposed to have happened 1-2 years after Obito supposedly died? That’s just not feasible.

Plothole Number 2: Personality U-turn (chapter 241 page 19).
"Of course those in the ninja world who break the rules and regulations are called trash... but those who don’t care about their companions are even worse than trash." Will of Fire talk from Obito. It makes no sense for.
him to suddenly manifest this unwavering vendetta against Konoha unless Tobi is just using Obito’s body as a vessel, in which case, Tobi isn’t really Obito anyway because his soul and spirit have nothing to do with it.

Plothole Number 3: Kushina Quote (chapter 501 page 7).
"Do you have ANY idea how long I’ve waited for this moment?" It’s a complete contradiction for Obito to say something like that when, hypothetically, he wouldn’t have been alive long enough to make that type of comment because Obito would have been 15 years old if he fought Minato. Tobi has probably had to wait DECADES for the opportunity to extract the Kyuubi from its host.

Plothole Number 4: Kyuubi recognised Tobi (chapter 501 page 8).
The Kyuubi actually recognises Tobi and possibly knows who he is. If THAT doesn’t convince you, nothing will. The Kyuubi made a direct transfer from being sealed into Mito to being sealed into Kushina, so there is a fundamental contradiction for the Kyuubi to recognise anyone in the outside world when it was sealed for all that time. If the Kyuubi actually recognised Tobi, it means Tobi has to be someone who was alive during Hashirama/Madara’s generation.

Plothole Number 5: Tobi is too tall (chapter 503 page 9).
Tobi was shown to be adult sized when he fought Minato, chapter 503 page 5. But on page 9, Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai are all shown to be much shorter as they are going through adolescence. Obito would have been around that size and is therefore too short to be Tobi.

Plothole Number 6: Minato would’ve figured it out (chapter 500-504).
If Tobi was really Obito, then Minato would have figured it out when they were fighting each other. Obito was Minato’s own student and would have recognised his chakra, but he didn’t.

Plothole Number 7: This is HIS doing (chapter 560 page 2).
"This is HIS doing." That means Madara knows exactly who Tobi is, but there is no way Madara could have worked with Obito because Madara had died already. We know this because by the time Nagato gets Madara's Rinnegan from Tobi, Madara is officially dead - "I awakened these eyes shortly before my death." (chapter 560 page 15). This is important because Nagato is older than Minato, and Minato is older than Obito.

Plothole Number 8: Hashirama Comparison (chapter 462 page 14).
Tobi says to Naruto "I can see the first Hokage in you." To make that type of comparison Tobi must have known what Hashirama was like as a person. Problem is, Hashirama was dead before Obito was born.

Plothole Number 9: During Our Battle (chapter 512 page 9).
"This is something I grew from living tissue I stole from him during our battle." Kabuto already revealed the Madara coffin so there was no reason for Tobi to keep lying. So if Tobi actually had a fight with Hashirama there is no way he could be Obito.

Plothole Number 10: Too Much Knowledge.
It is impossible for Obito to know so much about the bloody history between the Senju clan and the Uchiha clan before Konoha was even established as a shinobi village. Tobi has to be someone from that generation. It is also impossible for Obito to know so much about Rikudou Sennin, his sons, the Bijuu and the Juubi.

THE BIGGEST PLOTHOLE OF THEM ALL.

Plothole Number 11: Nagato is much older than Obito.

Why is this important? Because Tobi GAVE Nagato the Rinnegan. In other words, it is impossible for Obito to have given kid Nagato the Rinnegan because Obito is much younger than Nagato.

THIS!

This deserves to have its own thread by itself man! I swear!!!

Everything said was simply FACTS! No opinions!

If Kishi makes Tobi turn out to be Obito, well then he better have some CRAZY space/time justsu explanation behind it all to tell us how the f*ck Obito could have done all of this!
Otherwise I will lose all faith in Kishi. And will be disappointed down to a molecular level. Lmao xd


Tobi is Kagami.

Deal with it people..

:D
 

Hippy

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Nov 2, 2011
Messages
722
Reaction score
52
Hmmm...wish I can change my answer I'm pretty sure its Izuna, the awkward moment when its Rin with her stuff taped down lol.
 

gordo1

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 15, 2012
Messages
4,666
Reaction score
351
Tobi is secretly Sasori. Sasori was really one of Sasori's puppets pretending that the Sasori puppet wasn't a puppet, but Sasori's actual body, when in actuality Sasori was controlling Sasori, which was a puppet - yet Sasori's real body, to be one of the most powerful members of Sasori's gang.
 

Aresfour

Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2010
Messages
473
Reaction score
51
very nice thread man, reps+

and to those trolls who said this thread was retarded or w/e,
i just want to tell them stfu b1tch
 

the narukudo

Member
Joined
Sep 16, 2010
Messages
478
Reaction score
67
tobi is the rikudo elder son who manupilated madara ,sasuke and who knew the power of obito sharingan because he is the father of all sharingan and who hates the senju because his younger brother have beaten the shit out of him and caused him to lose the power of his eyes.
 
Top