Why Tobi is doomed

[drslim]

Here is why I think that Tobi is doomed and will not win in the fight against Naruto

If you look at the whole manga, you will notice that two main antagonists cannot coexist for an extended period.

When Pain appeared, Orochimaru was doomed.

When Tobi appeared, Pain was doomed.

When Madara appeared, Tobi was doomed. I think it's about time for him to go!

Now, if you agree, then an interesting question appears: who will replace Madara?

And here's my theory, but if you want to guess, then respond first

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Madara will be replaced by Orochimaru. It has already been hinted many times in the manga that Orochimaru has been studying Akatsuki, Tobi, and Madara's power. The secret scroll that Sasuke has obtained suggests the same. So, I think that the manga angagonists will run a cycle: Orochimaru, Pain, Tobi, Madara, and Orochimaru again.

 

[markdabomb22]

Plot no jutsu / thread.....

 

[Yo pappy]

I think Tobi is doomed because he is fighting Naruto, and Naruto is the main character. Herp.

 

[Juventini]

Stupid theory .

 

[Legendary Broly]

Hmm possible ..
Nice observation xd

 

[drslim]

Plot no jutsu / thread.....

I agree. Sorry about that

But, I still think I'm right And we do not have much other info that could be used to predict the outcome.

 

[drslim]

I think Tobi is doomed because he is fighting Naruto, and Naruto is the main character. Herp.

Huh? Didn't Naruto loose against Sasuke?

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Really? Orochimaru is a washed up villain ever since he got his arms sealed by Hiruzen

 

[SatchiZurake]

I would like to see this happen. I don't think his revival was for nothing. And he is without a doubt the most evil mofo in the manga. Just a matter of how long this will take. -6 months of prolonged tobi/madara extermination-

 

[Yo pappy]

Huh? Didn't Naruto loose against Sasuke?

lost =/= doomed

 

[Honord Sage]

Their can only be one top villain and one top Hero at any point and time Alphas always rule over the regulars.

 

[drslim]

Really? Orochimaru is a washed up villain ever since he got his arms sealed by Hiruzen

That's a good point, but didn't he find a way to use them again?

On the other hand, I do not really get how Orochimaru healed himself, and which part of Hiruzen's curse/seal still works. Is it true that Orochimaru's arms just get sick again after he transfers to a new body? Or how does the curse work now?

What I think is a more important weakness is that Orochimaru is susceptible to genjutsu. He was easily caught by the Itachi's Tsukuyomi. So, something must happen (maybe he will get the sage power that Kabuto had?) before he can defeat Madara.

 

[SatchiZurake]

That's a good point, but didn't he find a way to use them again?

On the other hand, I do not really get how Orochimaru healed himself, and which part of Hiruzen's curse/seal still works. Is it true that Orochimaru's arms just get sick again after he transfers to a new body? Or how does the curse work now?

What I think is a more important weakness is that Orochimaru is susceptible to genjutsu. He was easily caught by the Itachi's Tsukuyomi. So, something must happen (maybe he will get the sage power that Kabuto had?) before he can defeat Madara.

Nah he's not susceptible to genjutsu, he's got a pretty high ranking in it in the data books from what i remember. He's just doomed to get trolled by the Sharingan. Sort of like Deidara.

 

[drslim]

Their can only be one top villain and one top Hero at any point and time Alphas always rule over the regulars.

Well, that's what I meant, at least about the top villain part. Thanks!

 

[SAGA]

Everyone and i mean Everyone is destined to lose against Naruto by now, Tobi, Madara Sasuke, etc. You name it.

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^This Character for the win ^​

 

[drslim]

Everyone and i mean Everyone is destined to lose against Naruto by now, Tobi, Madara Sasuke, etc. You name it.

Well I did not mean it that way. I feel that would be a little too simple; I mean, what's the point of watching a manga if you feel that the protagonist always wins?

What I meant was that in Naruto, there can be only one main antagonist (top villain) for an extended period of time. On the other hand, there are plenty of other characters who are great, too. And there's Sasuke, an undetermined anta-, or protagonist -- take your pick, but if you believe in the theory of a final Naruto-Sasuke match, then of course both of them need to survive till that time.

 

[Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan]

Makes Sense.

 

[PAIN86]

not by Naruto's hands, Madara or Tobi are gonna take one or the other out, seems like Madara and Tobi have 2 different motives, one wants peace by force and the other to destroy the world, that is why i think it might happen, clash of ideals. Orochimaru being the final villain could happen, he says he wants no part in the war, could be hinting he still has something up his sleeve and is just biding his time

 

[drslim]

Makes Sense.

Thanks!

 

[drslim]

not by Naruto's hands, Madara or Tobi are gonna take one or the other out, seems like Madara and Tobi have 2 different motives, one wants peace by force and the other to destroy the world, that is why i think it might happen, clash of ideals. Orochimaru being the final villain could happen, he says he wants no part in the war, could be hinting he still has something up his sleeve and is just biding his time

Now that's an interesting idea. I thought so too for a time; but someone pointed out to me that I was wrong, because Tobi and Madara are collaborating. This is suggested by the manga when Kabuto talks to Madara:

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The discussion shows that Madara knows about the plan to capture the Bijuu's, and later it is reavealed that Madara also plans to use the infinite Tsukuyomi.

That's why I think that Tobi will be defeated by Naruto. He is now too redundant.