minato top 10

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Tobi hasn't used any Rinnegan techniques, it essentially is the same Tobi which fought Minato. And if you take those panels as absolute you might aswell take Jiraiya > Pain and Hashirama > Edo Madara as absolute aswell. Feats wise, Itachi has no answer to Tobi's abilities.

But it is not implying to be a problem one says I would be dead which means that itachi stands a chance of defeated him the nothing stands in my way one doesn't but still he has mentioned itachi twice,

Itachi has:
Susano
Totsuka blade
Izanami to counter izangi
Amaterasu (which got tobi from being implanted in sasuke)

On a one on one itachi will not be easily beat by tobi sames goes for minato

Looking at minato's feats on paper you could say he has nothing to attack tobi but it is how they use their feats

I think you are over estimating sharingan tobi

Konan with knowledge
Danzo's henchmen were also able to do some damage to tobi so to say itachi couldn't is a mockery

Minato did the most and I believe minato and itachi are around the same level

 

[FizzyDrink]

I personally have Minato at 6 or 7. He's very strong.

 

[SilverSlick]

Implication 1:
(3rd panel) Tobi said he would be dead if itachi knew about him

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Implication 2:
Tobi saying itachi is dead now nothing stands in my way 3rd panel

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The first I believe is if Itachi would have knew Tobi wasn't actually Madara, then he would have implanted Izanami instead of Amaterasu. That's how I interpret it anyways. Also, he was referring to that particular moment. He wasn't outright saying if Itachi knew his secrets he'd be dead. What he meant was if Itachi knew his secrets(such as his S/T tech and him not being Madara), then he would of implanted something other than Amaterasu inside Sasuke. That's MY opinion.

The second can be interpreted many different ways. For one, its obvious Tobi is someone who values loyalty. Given this, he is not someone to back stab anyone believe it or not. lol. It can also be said that Itachi was a very valuable member of the Akatsuki. In Tobi's eyes, he was more of an asset than a burden. Look, they were going to attack Konoha eventually either way. If you think Nagato or Tobi couldn't of handled Itachi together, then idk what's wrong with you.

Anyways, that's my opinion on the matter. Either way, 3 tomoe Tobi is stronger than Itachi in my opinion.

 

[OnPoint]

But it is not implying to be a problem one says I would be dead which means that itachi stands a chance of defeated him the nothing stands in my way one doesn't but still he has mentioned itachi twice,

Itachi has:
Susano
Totsuka blade
Izanami to counter izangi
Amaterasu (which got tobi from being implanted in sasuke)

On a one on one itachi will not be easily beat by tobi sames goes for minato

Stands a chance in the sense that he won't get fodderized. Still doesn't have an answer to Tobi's S/T ninjutsu.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

The first I believe is if Itachi would have knew Tobi wasn't actually Madara, then he would have implanted Izanami instead of Amaterasu. That's how I interpret it anyways. Also, he was referring to that particular moment. He wasn't outright saying if Itachi knew his secrets he'd be dead. What he meant was if Itachi knew his secrets(such as his S/T tech and him not being Madara), then he would of implanted something other than Amaterasu inside Sasuke. That's MY opinion.

The second can be interpreted many different ways. For one, its obvious Tobi is someone who values loyalty. Given this, he is not someone to back stab anyone believe it or not. lol. It can also be said that Itachi was a very valuable member of the Akatsuki. In Tobi's eyes, he was more of an asset than a burden. Look, they were going to attack Konoha eventually either way. If you think Nagato or Tobi couldn't of handled Itachi together, then idk what's wrong with you.

Anyways, that's my opinion on the matter. Either way, 3 tomoe Tobi is stronger than Itachi in my opinion.

Yes but even if he is saying itachi may have implanted izanami instead of amaterasu is just proving the real itachi could be a threat for him as well.

Yes they could handle him together but alone I think itachi could beat 3t tobi. Like you said itachi and minato are about the same level over all.

Stands a chance in the sense that he won't get fodderized. Still doesn't have an answer to Tobi's S/T ninjutsu.

FTG is not a direct answer to tobi's space time, kakashi kamui is but FTG is not. It was how minato used FTG which became the answer for tobi's s/t as it was a one on one and tobi was trying to absorb minato.

Like I said with itachi's skill level he could used the feats he has and defeat sharingan tobi.

And this is implying it is a one on one and tobi's goal is to absorb itachi which will force him to materialize

Even danzo's hench men where able to land one attack on tobi. Luckily tobi is able to rip of limbs without feeling pain

 

[Bogard]

Minato is top5

 

[ToruneNamikaze]

But it is not implying to be a problem one says I would be dead which means that itachi stands a chance of defeated him the nothing stands in my way one doesn't but still he has mentioned itachi twice,

Itachi has:
Susano
Totsuka blade
Izanami to counter izangi
Amaterasu (which got tobi from being implanted in sasuke)

On a one on one itachi will not be easily beat by tobi sames goes for minato

Looking at minato's feats on paper you could say he has nothing to attack tobi but it is how they use their feats

I think you are over estimating sharingan tobi

Konan with knowledge
Danzo's henchmen were also able to do some damage to tobi so to say itachi couldn't is a mockery

Minato did the most and I believe minato and itachi are around the same level

Minato had his own S/T to counter Tobi's he had great speed and reflexes and Tobi was also underestimating him. Konan with knowledge+prep time still couldn't beat Tobi whether she hit him or not is irrelevant. Danzo's henchmen didn't hurt him, Tobi was the one who touched Torune and he still won. Susanno is useless it won't harm Tobi, he could use his S/T or Hiding Like a mole tech. Izanami needs physical sensation like when Kabuto lost his horn to work on Tobi. He was able to survive Amaterasu.

 

[SilverSlick]

Minato had his own S/T to counter Tobi's he had great speed and reflexes and Tobi was also underestimating him. Konan with knowledge+prep time still couldn't beat Tobi whether she hit him or not is irrelevant. Danzo's henchmen didn't hurt him, Tobi was the one who touched Torune and he still won. Susanno is useless it won't harm Tobi, he could use his S/T or Hiding Like a mole tech. Izanami needs physical sensation like when Kabuto lost his horn to work on Tobi. He was able to survive Amaterasu.

You're the first person I've seen referencing hiding like a mole tech as one of Tobi's technique in his arsenal. No one ever mentions that technique even though he used it before. Props.

 

[ToruneNamikaze]

You're the first person I've seen referencing hiding like a mole tech as one of Tobi's technique in his arsenal. No one ever mentions that technique even though he used it before. Props.

Lol I use it cause some could argue Tobi teleporting himself takes time

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Minato had his own S/T to counter Tobi's he had great speed and reflexes and Tobi was also underestimating him. Konan with knowledge+prep time still couldn't beat Tobi whether she hit him or not is irrelevant. Danzo's henchmen didn't hurt him, Tobi was the one who touched Torune and he still won. Susanno is useless it won't harm Tobi, he could use his S/T or Hiding Like a mole tech. Izanami needs physical sensation like when Kabuto lost his horn to work on Tobi. He was able to survive Amaterasu.

If tobi was actually trying to kill itachi then he would have to stay and fight and try to absorb him to do so he would have to materialize for time to time to try. This is how all sharingan tobi's battles go

If itachi's susano is active tobi is not touching him itachi's susano has the highest defence. His Totsuka Sword makes him deadly while susano is active. Itachi also has Amaterasu yes tobi can izanagi out of it but itachi also has izanami even if he doesn't activate izanami he will not be defeated by one izanagi like konan was itachi's knowledge of izanagi is to high

 

[OnPoint]

FTG is not a direct answer to tobi's space time, kakashi kamui is but FTG is not. It was how minato used FTG which became the answer for tobi's s/t as it was a one on one and tobi was trying to absorb minato.

Like I said with itachi's skill level he could used the feats he has and defeat sharingan tobi.

And this is implying it is a one on one and tobi's goal is to absorb itachi which will force him to materialize

Even danzo's hench men where able to land one attack on tobi. Luckily tobi is able to rip of limbs without feeling pain

Does not matter how skillful Itachi is, none of his techniques present a direct threat to Tobi in the face of his intangibility, he has no drawn out attack which can exhaust the 5 minute limit and he is certain to lose a battle of attrition considering his healthy issues.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Does not matter how skillful Itachi is, none of his techniques present a direct threat to Tobi in the face of his intangibility, he has no drawn out attack which can exhaust the 5 minute limit and he is certain to lose a battle of attrition considering his healthy issues.

You fail to notice how battles against tobi goes. He does not stand there for 5 mins being intangible in a one on one he will try and absorb his opponent and to do so he has to materialize. This is how all battles with sharingan tobi has gone read what I said in the post just before yours post #30
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I am shocked at people underrating itachi do you really think he could be fodderized by tobi? Anbu captain at 13 defeated oro at 14/15..

Minato and itachi are both a great threat to tobi and they are both around the same skill level

 

[Super Beans]

itachi is a beast @_@

 

[Super Beans]

he is so broken lol XD

 

[ToruneNamikaze]

If tobi was actually trying to kill itachi then he would have to stay and fight and try to absorb him to do so he would have to materialize for time to time to try. This is how all sharingan tobi's battles go

If itachi's susano is active tobi is not touching him. His Totsuka Sword makes him deadly while susano is active. Itachi also has Amaterasu yes tobi can izanagi out of it but itachi also has izanami even if he doesn't activate izanami he will not be defeated by one izanagi like konan was itachi's knowledge of izanagi is to high

Susanno isn't going to last forever, Totsuka Blade is useless against someone like Tobi, he's S/T techs+Hiding Like A Mole Tech+ Base Speed will keep from getting sealed. We aren't sure Tobi used Izanagi to survive Amaterasu and it hit Tobi off guard if he uses his Hiding Like A Mole Tech he can't be hit.

Itachi is on Minato's level but fact of the matter is Minato's moveset is much more suited to beat Sharingan Tobi while Itachi's isn't.

 

[OnPoint]

You fail to notice how battles against tobi goes. He does not stand there for 5 mins being intangible in a one on one he will try and absorb his opponent and to do so he has to materialize. This is how all battles with sharingan tobi has gone read what I said in the post just before yours post #30
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I am shocked at people underrating itachi do you really think he could be fodderized by tobi? Anbu captain at 13 defeated oro at 14/15..

Minato and itachi are both a great threat to tobi and they are both around the same skill level

The only thing I fail to do is wank Itachi. Naruto is about matchups, and Itachi's abilities do not suit this particular battle. Him 'defeating' Orochimaru is totally irrelevant. Obvious winner is obvious.

 

[SilverSlick]

You fail to notice how battles against tobi goes. He does not stand there for 5 mins being intangible in a one on one he will try and absorb his opponent and to do so he has to materialize. This is how all battles with sharingan tobi has gone read what I said in the post just before yours post #30
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I am shocked at people underrating itachi do you really think he could be fodderized by tobi? Anbu captain at 13 defeated oro at 14/15..

Minato and itachi are both a great threat to tobi and they are both around the same skill level

I'm sure Tobi can warp inside Susano'o. And check this page out

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Here Tobi states he would warp Minato the moment he touched him. Given this, he can speed up the process at which he absorbs his opponent to a near instantaneous level. Also, this means that can teleport himself almost instantaneously. But there is probably a catch. It probably takes A LOT of chakra to warp someone or himself at those speeds.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Susanno isn't going to last forever, Totsuka Blade is useless against someone like Tobi, he's S/T techs+Hiding Like A Mole Tech+ Base Speed will keep from getting sealed. We aren't sure Tobi used Izanagi to survive Amaterasu and it hit Tobi off guard if he uses his Hiding Like A Mole Tech he can't be hit.

Itachi is on Minato's level but fact of the matter is Minato's moveset is much more suited to beat Sharingan Tobi while Itachi's isn't.

Susano can last a long time if you start a battle with it same goes for tobi's space time it can last for ever and he has to materialise to absorb people. Tobi can hide but he has to come out and absorb from time to time unless he runs away which means itachi wins.

Itachi is too skilful to beat by tobi's wack a mole even kakashi wouldn't get beat like this.

I think itachi's move set works against tobi just fine, that's if tobi is trying to beat him to meaning he will have to materialize. Tobi has mentioned itachi twice that alone is enough to say he could beat tobi. I am not saying he defiantly will I am saying he can.

The only thing I fail to do is wank Itachi. Naruto is about matchups, and Itachi's abilities do not suit this particular battle. Obvious winner is obvious.

Lol I am no itachi fan boy but to say he would get fodderized by 3t tobi is a mockery itachi and minato both could beat sharingan itachi they are at that level.

 

[OnPoint]

Lol I am no itachi fan boy but to say he would get fodderized by 3t tobi is a mockery itachi and minato both could beat sharingan itachi they are at that level.

Never said he would get fodderized, I actually claimed he wouldn't get fodderized. Itachi being on Minato's level is irrelevant since you're trying to see things as Minato >= Tobi, Minato = Itachi and, therefore, Itachi >= Tobi, which is false logic when discussing Naruto fights.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I'm sure Tobi can warp inside Susano'o. And check this page out

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Here Tobi states he would warp Minato the moment he touched him. Given this, he can speed up the process at which he absorbs his opponent to a near instantaneous level. Also, this means that can teleport himself almost instantaneously. But there is probably a catch. It probably takes A LOT of chakra to warp someone or himself at those speeds.

Tobi cannot warp inside susano especially itachi's with his great defence. It is not a spiritual uchiha tech for no reason.

Oh so that's what you meant in that other thread I think you have misinterpreted what tobi meant by that. He meant he will start absorbing as soon as he makes contact with him. The first time he did it he was **** and said game over (basically) because he thought he won. He took minato to lightly.

Never said he would get fodderized, I actually claimed he wouldn't get fodderized. Itachi being on Minato's level is irrelevant since you're trying to see things as Minato >= Tobi, Minato = Itachi and, therefore, Itachi >= Tobi, which is false logic when discussing Naruto fights.

I am not saying that because itachi and minato are the same level itachi can defeat tobi I gave reasons why itachi can defeat tobi I know A B C logic does not work in naruto fights.

I am saying Minato and itachi can both beat tobi