Orochimaru was always the Strongest of the Sannin

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bro go back to see and you will see that SM need skill and a huge pool of chakra otherwise you will find a hall lot of people in konoha with sage mode coz .... by your logic if your body can harness nature chakra your good :rofl::rofl::rofl: konoha has alot of shinobi and you can't tell me all their bodys can't harness nature chakra or what ever you wana call it :sy: naruto's nine tails was the key. oro didn't go that far to dragon mode with his weakend body. when i say that jiraiya and oro are on the same level i mean a healthy oro without your (imaginary oro of the dragon mode)

no you are wrong 9 tail dont have nothing to do we the sm is naruto body broky and kishi:sy:
 

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bro go back to see and you will see that SM need skill and a huge pool of chakra otherwise you will find a hall lot of people in konoha with sage mode coz .... by your logic if your body can harness nature chakra your good :rofl::rofl::rofl: konoha has alot of shinobi and you can't tell me all their bodys can't harness nature chakra or what ever you wana call it :sy: naruto's nine tails was the key. oro didn't go that far to dragon mode with his weakend body. when i say that jiraiya and oro are on the same level i mean a healthy oro without your (imaginary oro of the dragon mode), you actually give a bad ass character like oro a bad name

No u go bac and read it if ur body rejects the nature chakra u can't do it it's regardless of chakra pool cuz Thts normal chakra u Dnt even use it u learn to absorb sage chakra into ur BODY if ur body can't handle it u can't do regardless of chairs level by ur logic A bee gaara onooki tsuande Tobi etc should b able to learn it cuz of thier massive. Chakra pools (hell even karin) but not it's about if u have a suitable body for it orochimaru's CURRENT BODY (at the time didn't) didnt that's why he wasn't able to harness the sage chakra u act as if jariya has bigger chakra pool then oro I beg to differ if oro's isn't higher (from all the expirements and jutsu he's conducted) there at least the same amount of it hell orochimaru's chakra is so sinister it plays a role in this war by its self....
 

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Orochimaru will hold him off till sm wears off, and then its game over
 

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hmm could be the strongest, I've always felt

Sasuke=Orochimaru
Naruto=Jiraiya
sakura=Tsunade

and since Sasuke= Naruto in strength
that would mean Orochimaru=Jiraiya


and since Sasuke or naruto >>>>> Sakura
then Oro or Jiraiya >>>>> Tsunade

Nuff said !!!
 

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Yeah, I think Orochimaru was the strongest of the sannin. I think Tsunade > Jiraiya though.
 

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No u go bac and read it if ur body rejects the nature chakra u can't do it it's regardless of chakra pool cuz Thts normal chakra u Dnt even use it u learn to absorb sage chakra into ur BODY if ur body can't handle it u can't do regardless of chairs level by ur logic A bee gaara onooki tsuande Tobi etc should b able to learn it cuz of thier massive. Chakra pools (hell even karin) but not it's about if u have a suitable body for it orochimaru's CURRENT BODY (at the time didn't) didnt that's why he wasn't able to harness the sage chakra u act as if jariya has bigger chakra pool then oro I beg to differ if oro's isn't higher (from all the expirements and jutsu he's conducted) there at least the same amount of it hell orochimaru's chakra is so sinister it plays a role in this war by its self....

:sy: oh my god, when did i say that jiraiya has more chakra than oro and i said a huge pool of chakra and skill now naruto lived up to the expectations of being a jirayia student to learn it and you do need a huge pool of chakra. oro didn't have dragon mode coz of his weak body but you don't understand, oro never learned it coz maybe just maybe he doesn't need it :rolleyes: he was a monster when he was healthy already. a healthy oro without (IMAGINARY DRAGON MODE THAT HE NEVER LEARNED TO DO) = jirayia. the sooner you accept this the better it will be for you also you know that naruto's power revolves around the nine tails otherwise maybe we are watching different manga's :sy:
 
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i always thought oro was strongest if the sennin if he was not evil he would have been a great hokage
 

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i think all of the sannin were themselves a plot to the finaly of the sieres and things to come sasuke = orochi becuase both evil seek power and are not in the right state of mind although strong and moraly upstanding there morals could be better Naruto = gutsy and brave these traits seem to been passed down very strongly sakura = tsunade becuase of the plot a medical ninja is always needed and there are very complex emotions there but mainly form a war prospect are support and plot chars well i think that will do.
 

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I think that Oro has better potential then Jiraiya and Tsunade but the fact that Jiraiya was deeply involved with the main character of the plot leads me to believe that he has a better connection to the story. Following the rules of Shonen Cliche this leads me to believe that he was superior.
 
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oro z a grt ninja.. wd marvellous skills.. and above all brains.. , tht something lacks in other sannins..., thr r some tech. in oro's arsenal tht can drag other sannins to knees... bt i guess wrong never wins...
 

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why are you bringing up sasuke and sakura :sy: ?? i said don't talk to me unless you go back to the manga, perfection in the sense of that he can go to sage mode without ma and pa and he won't look like a frog coz of the huge chakra pool he has the kyubi, naruto got his ass handed to him against pain with the information jiraiya gave them until the nine tails came out while pain needed a plan to hide the six path specially the reviver to defeat jiraiya, and jiraiya killed three and made one body unusable with no information and odds against him :cool:. come on u can't be serious :sy:



NAruto Got his ass handed only because he had to deal with more shit then Jiraya... So please don't even go there. And again Go read the damn manga... SM has nothing to do with 9-tails.. If 9-tails ever starts sharing its chakra naruto will start turning into it. So don't give me that bullshit.


Naruto chakra pool without Nine-tails > Jiraya

TSUNADE and NARUTO had bigger chakra pool then Jiraya and Oro.

Uzumaki and Senju's chakrapool> any other clan.



i always thought oro was strongest if the sennin if he was not evil he would have been a great hokage

Tsunade said the Sarutobi-sensei always wanted Jiraya to be the Hokage.
 
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I like your points but Itachi never fought Orochimaru. Orochimaru tried to cast gen jutsu and failed getting his arm cut off and that the only time he had a in counter with itachi. Their wasnt a fight so that thrown out.

You win with your next point tho. Itachi admitted that a stalemate would happening in a fight between the 2 but we have nothing when comes to itachi and oro.

I believe oro would be able to beat pain because the most of us know that jman and oro are on a equal field. Pain said jman would have been able to beat him if he didnt know about him. Not to mention during that whole all jman needed was time and if he had it pain would be no more. Now this is when i say oro has it stating only fact now no opinion. oro is smarter then jman and he doesnt need time for any of his moves. Opinion time Since pain know nothing against about oro he would have to start off blind. jman had problems with the chameleon snakes find prey with their tongue (that cuts time). Also being smarter allows oro the chance to find out about the body at least 10 second faster. All of oro attacks are just like snakes there fast and unexpected. If jman had time like that he would have owned pain beginning middle and the end of that fight. He only loss because of these factors

Well said.

However, Orochimaru had accepted that itachi was on another level, and their little encounter was enough to prove itachis superiority. Secondly, with Orochimaru's eight branches tech, itachi showed that this could be countered with susanoo, and effectively in that battle with Orochimaru when Sasuke was fighting itachi, itachi had defeated Orochimaru, by sealing him. He did not kill him, but he definitely defeated him.

Also, you are right that Orochimaru does stand a chance against pain, but u see, until proven otherwise, and not just speculation, similar to how Jiraya did not have knowledge about pain, neither does Orochimaru. Yes, he worked in akatsuki,but that does not mean he has knowledge on all 6 paths, and their abilities. That being said, neither does pain on oro. But he will be familiar, as oro was working under him; opposed to pain actually being above him in the hierarchy. Above that, I don't think there is anything that Orochimaru has from what I have seen at least, that can have a massive effect against pain. Idk thoug, maybe there is, maybe not.
 

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In my opinion I think jman is stronger. I mean let's look at strengths by both oro and jman disciples.

jman
Nagato- was the somewhat leader of akutski and destroyed a damn village with one technique.
Naruto- plot no jutsu he will defeat any enemy that comes before him and he will be a hero of the manga.

Oro
Saskue- defeated is own master oro ( don't give me that bullcrap that oro was weak. Just before that happened oro punched kurama in the face when he was fighting naruto and Yamato and Sakura. To punch the kybii in the face is notorious but then ends up getting defeated by sasuke... Seriously...

The guy with the glasses- he lost to itachi even though he had perfected 2 of oro technique... What a waste of time...

Jman wins...
 
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oro is the smartest hands down of all three.
big papa J is the most powerful.
Tsunade has all the healing properties and brute force.
 

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In my opinion I think jman is stronger. I mean let's look at strengths by both oro and jman disciples.

jman
Nagato- was the somewhat leader of akutski and destroyed a damn village with one technique.

He left nagato when he was about 10,he didnt know any of nagato's rinnegan techs,dont give me crap here. All nagato did with his rinnegan was him,jiraiya had nothing to do with it.

Naruto- plot no jutsu he will defeat any enemy that comes before him and he will be a hero of the manga.

He taught naruto rasengan,big ball rasengan and summonings,he had nothing to do with sm,km or bm.

Oro
Saskue- defeated is own master oro ( don't give me that bullcrap that oro was weak. Just before that happened oro punched kurama in the face when he was fighting naruto and Yamato and Sakura. To punch the kybii in the face is notorious but then ends up getting defeated by sasuke... Seriously...

He couldnt move at all,his body had reached it's limits,it was beginning to reject him when he fought naruto,and he was on the verge of being rejected by sasuke. Didnt oro beat sasuke still?,and could have killed him if he wanted,but chose to take his body instead?.

The guy with the glasses- he lost to itachi even though he had perfected 2 of oro technique... What a waste of time...

If itachi had fought him alone,he would stomp him with ease,he could have ended edo tensei if he wanted,he could have summoned other edos to fight him. Sasuke distracted kabuto long enough for itachi to use izanami,if he wanted to kill sasuke,izanami wouldnt have happened,so dont talk crap. Itachi dies twice in that fight. Also wasnt nagato his puppet?,isnt he using a tech to fight the entire shinobi alliance?

Jman wins...

except the fact that everytime they fought,oro always won. And oro pwned him without arms
 

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Orochimaru had no arms and Jiraiya had use of his jutsu, Orochimaru was still stronger.

Jiraiya vs Orochimaru happened, Orochimaru won.

Sage Mode was Jiraiya's saving grace, but as it turns out Orochimaru has the ability to use Sage Mode too.

I agree, Orochimaru was always the most powerful Sannin.
 
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