Orochimaru was always the Strongest of the Sannin

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Seriously bro read manga again oro hydra was overwhelming the Susanno all the Susanno could do is chopp it's heads off and they grew right bak instantly also releasing w.e tht stuff was into the air and did a snake like TBB it was like a bijuu IMO all itachi could do was seal the hydra cuz he couldn't kill it cuz the hydra just kept regenerating and started rapping it's heads around the Susanno

Once it started overwlehming Susanno oro started doing speech (stupid of him I admit) and then itachi started sealing it

And tbh tht is a plot hole If u read the toswaka sword bio thingy it says anything it touches it automatically seals so why was itachi able to use it as a physical sword ???? When it's suppose to be a spiritual weapon in fact it's suppose to be the opposet of sword of kansanji while tht one is physical sword toswaka is suppose to be spiritual?? Tht doesn't make since at all I hate kishi and his favoritism -_-
Tht weapon shouldnt be able to cut anything physical sealing is one thing if Thts the case it shouldve started sealing oro once it touched hydra

But anyways hydra is freaking awesome u say it's slow it moves exactly how oro or a snake does patiently then moving its heads in fast pace to capture and subdue its victims example itachi's susanno


That hydra was just a huge target to get hit by an amaterasu if itachi so pleased, wouldn't be able to heal from that. Although amaterasu would have used up a good deal of chakra, Sealing the hydra with the sword was probably the best chakra-conserving way itachi could have beaten it(since itachi still needed chakra left to go up to sasuke and transfer his powers/say his last words, and since itachi was low on chakra anyways). Seriously though, think about it, its F'ing itachi...he would not lose to orochimaru/hydra. Amaterasu would easily destroy the hydra..but remember, itachi wasn't trying to kill sasuke in that fight, if he used amaterasu it could have the risk of hurting/killing sasuke too. He didn't just seal the hydra along with orochimaru because that was his only way of defeating it....it was to completely take out orochimaru and the curse seal from sasuke. Capture and subdue huh? Its weird how the susanoo freed itself so easily from being subdued lol by the hydra. I think you're the one who should read the manga again lol. A wise man once said "Orochimaru, before my eyes all of your jutsu become useless".
 
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That hydra was just a huge target to get hit by an amaterasu if itachi so pleased, wouldn't be able to heal from that. Although amaterasu would have used up a good deal of chakra, Sealing the hydra with the sword was probably the best chakra-conserving way itachi could have beaten it(since itachi still needed chakra left to go up to sasuke and transfer his powers/say his last words, and since itachi was low on chakra anyways). I don't think you should underestimate jiraya in sage mode. He was ridiculously strong, he sent that giant Bull summon flying like it was a football...plus the toad sages on his shoulders can attack too with powerful ninjutsu and genjutsu. I would also doubt that sage mode jiraya is slower than that hydra or nearly any form orochimaru can take on. Leaving orochimaru vulnerable to all of SM jiraya's attacks. I'm not trying to make the hydra sound like a worthless piece, I could just definitely see jiraya being able to put up a fight

No, Itachi isn't an idiot. He knew using Amaterasu on Hydra would be a waste of chakra. Orochimaru has a good way of escaping seeminly fatal attacks. He knew that sealing him would be the most effective, if not only way to actually deal with him.
 

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That hydra was just a huge target to get hit by an amaterasu if itachi so pleased, wouldn't be able to heal from that. Although amaterasu would have used up a good deal of chakra, Sealing the hydra with the sword was probably the best chakra-conserving way itachi could have beaten it(since itachi still needed chakra left to go up to sasuke and transfer his powers/say his last words, and since itachi was low on chakra anyways). I don't think you should underestimate jiraya in sage mode. He was ridiculously strong, he sent that giant Bull summon flying like it was a football...plus the toad sages on his shoulders can attack too with powerful ninjutsu and genjutsu. I would also doubt that sage mode jiraya is slower than that hydra or nearly any form orochimaru can take on. Leaving orochimaru vulnerable to all of SM jiraya's attacks. I'm not trying to make the hydra sound like a worthless piece, I could just definitely see jiraya being able to put up a fight

He could shedd the skin if he could regenerate its heads why wouldn't it shed its skin and u act as if amatratsu instantly burn ppl it slowly burns ppl IMO
Didn't say it was slower but it will just regenerate from any of jman attacks orochimaru will eventually cetch him with his snake like TBB to just obliterate him or eat him alive have u countered how many heads it was he can't defend from all of them at once
 

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No, Itachi isn't an idiot. He knew using Amaterasu on Hydra would be a waste of chakra. Orochimaru has a good way of escaping seeminly fatal attacks. He knew that sealing him would be the most effective, if not only way to actually deal with him.

Ummm yea I pretty much just said that...lol. what about magatama? That's actually his susanoos most powerful long range attack. I was saying since, like you said, itachi isn't an idiot he wouldn't lose to orochimaru, he had complete control of that entire fight. He drove sasuke into a corner, forced sasuke to use up all of his chakra, waited for orochimaru to arise out of sasuke, then sealed the hell out of him. All while itachi was dying from illness/practically blind. Owned
 
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He could shedd the skin if he could regenerate its heads why wouldn't it shed its skin and u act as if amatratsu instantly burn ppl it slowly burns ppl IMO
Didn't say it was slower but it will just regenerate from any of jman attacks orochimaru will eventually cetch him with his snake like TBB to just obliterate him or eat him alive have u countered how many heads it was he can't defend from all of them at once

That hydra technique alone takes up a great deal of chakra, and those shedding skin techniques take up tons of chakra too(in the case of shedding the skin for the hydra, probably a ****ton of chakra). Dude you're underestimatimg SM way too much. It massively improves strength, speed, durability, perception, ninjutsu, taijitsu and genjutsu. Jiraya in SM made that giant Bull summon go flying through the air like a football...plus jiraya has those sage toads on his shoulders that can use their own powerful ninjutsu and gengutsu too
 

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J-Man whoops this pedo's ass.

I feel as though you disrespect Jiraiya by putting him on a weaker level than the lil' boy lover.
 

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That hydra technique alone takes up a great deal of chakra, and those shedding skin techniques take up tons of chakra too(in the case of shedding the skin for the hydra, probably a ****ton of chakra). Dude you're underestimatimg SM way too much. It massively improves strength, speed, durability, perception, ninjutsu, taijitsu and genjutsu. Jiraya in SM made that giant Bull summon go flying through the air like a football...plus jiraya has those sage toads on his shoulders that can use their own powerful ninjutsu and gengutsu too

Ur right I do kinda underestimate sage mode but the only reason is is because it takes to much time to start I agree it's super powerful but u r seriously doubting orochimaru hydra mode and orochimaru in general I mean oro knows jariya has sage mode and he wouldn't let jariya get into it. I Dnt even think tsunade would be stupid enough to let jariya get Into sage mode IMO
 

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J-Man whoops this pedo's ass.

I feel as though you disrespect Jiraiya by putting him on a weaker level than the lil' boy lover.

I know right? I can't count the times orochimaru would lick his lips as he gazed at sasuke.
 

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hmm could be the strongest, I've always felt

Sasuke=Orochimaru
Naruto=Jiraiya
sakura=Tsunade

and since Sasuke= Naruto in strength
that would mean Orochimaru=Jiraiya


and since Sasuke or naruto >>>>> Sakura
then Oro or Jiraiya >>>>> Tsunade

Jiraiya almost died to three tailed beast while Oro owned four tails. I think that is enough proof that Oro is far greater than Jiraiya.
 

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You're a fool. For one its not like jiraya was trying to fight 3-tails Naruto, he was trying to train Naruto to control the kyuubis power. As for the Orochimaru vs 4-tails fight, Naruto would have killed him regardless if oro had his jutsu. All of orochimaru's attack almost had zero effect on Naruto, Naruto just brushed them off. The mini bijuu dama Naruto made would had truly killed orochimaru too, he even admitted it, but he summoned those 3 walls to barely escape death. Even when orochimaru struck Naruto with the sword of kusanagi(which can apparently cut/pierce anything) couldn't pierce narutos skin....it just pushed him back. If orochimaru was putting up a better fight(had jutsu/arms) then that would have just forced more tails out of Naruto. If yamato didn't surpress the kyuubis power after Naruto hit sakura, Naruto probably would have killed them all

He was trying to train naruto and lost control then had to battle the three tails and almost got killed. Orochimaru straight up destroyed the four tails.
 

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Jiraiya almost died to three tailed beast while Oro owned four tails. I think that is enough proof that Oro is far greater than Jiraiya.

While I agree oro is greater then jariya tht isn't a good way to show it jariya wasn't trying to fight naruto
Oro was although oro couldn't use jutsu.

Honestly it's simple

Orochimaru base>jariya base

Jariya sage mode >=orochimaru base

Orochimaru true form>jariya sage mode

Orochimaru hydra form >>>jariya base and sage mode
 

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Ur right I do kinda underestimate sage mode but the only reason is is because it takes to much time to start I agree it's super powerful but u r seriously doubting orochimaru hydra mode and orochimaru in general I mean oro knows jariya has sage mode and he wouldn't let jariya get into it. I Dnt even think tsunade would be stupid enough to let jariya get Into sage mode IMO

Well he does have the 3 giant toads to stall time for him. I think he could pull it off. But hey you have your opinion and I respect that. As for me, I'm going to sleep. :noc:
 

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He was trying to train naruto and lost control then had to battle the three tails and almost got killed. Orochimaru straight up destroyed the four tails.

Are you serious?!?! The 4-tails was the one doing the destroying. Like I said, orochimarus sword of kusinagi(the sword that is suppose to pierce anything) couldn't even pierce through 4tails narutos skin, it just pushed him back. The 4 tails naruto showed almost no damage from orochimaru, it wasn't even defeated by orochimaru...it was surpressed by yamato :flaw:
 

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J-Man whoops this pedo's ass.

I feel as though you disrespect Jiraiya by putting him on a weaker level than the lil' boy lover.

no one is man enough to disrespect jiraiya bro
 

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According to what suigetsu said, sasuke has no chance of beating orochimaru if his arms weren't sealed. It also seems that sasuke accepted this somewhat. So by that, I do believe Oro>J-man.

Not only that, even Itachi's sword of Totsuka couldn't seal him, just proving that how badass of a villain Oroxhimaru is to this series... Orochimaru >> Jiraiya.
 
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I think that Orochimaru has a sage mode the same one that Kabuto uses
he absorbed the sage mode from Kabuto In which case he should have been overwhelmed by nature energy and he wasnt
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So yeah Oro is the strongest
 
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Well lets break it down
Jiraiya became a sage
Tsunade can heal herself instantly
And even if Oro dies he is still living somewhere else.
Does it really matter whose the strongest:shrug:
 
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