gaara and tobi vs itachi and naruto

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current gaara and current tobi vs edo itachu and BM naruto.no restrictions,distance 100m,location:rocky terrain,mindset BL.who wins?
 

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edo itachi is bad backup as gaara seals him. 100m is a football field so essentially they can barely see each other. the only long range attack naruto has that can attack at that distance is FRS, and tobi simply warps it into his dimension or absorbs it with his rinnegan. its not stated he cant use rinnegan powers since he seemed confident he should use human path on yamato.
terrain heavily favours team 1. gaara grinds up the rock and makes it a desert. then he takes flight to get out of the range of totsuka. amaterasu we know to have no effect on tobis absorbing ability. tsukiyomi we know to have no effect on true sharingan users. moreover gaaras a sensor and neither team can fly. we've seen that tobi can outlast bm using his own bijuus and gedo mazo. narutos teamates have had to save him many times in this fight. itachi is not as good help as bee/kakashi/gai.
especially since hes rendered immobile by the need to protect himself from gaaras endless sand barrage. itachis ripped from susano and captured/sealed. amaterasu has no effect on sand, and gaaras blocked 5 susano swords without even looking behind him. if naruto uses bijuudama again, tobi uses his flame barrier.
 

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No restrictions ey? okay itachi activates his mangekyou, makes Crow come out of naruto, uses koto on tobi, takes him out of the picture. gaara gets completely destroyed once tobi is gone. The end.
 

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No restrictions ey? okay itachi activates his mangekyou, makes Crow come out of naruto, uses koto on tobi, takes him out of the picture. gaara gets completely destroyed once tobi is gone. The end.

i thought KA was meant to react to itachi's eye only?,so that if sasuke took his eyes and fought naruto,the crow would come out and affect him.
 

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i thought KA was meant to react to itachi's eye only?,so that if sasuke took his eyes and fought naruto,the crow would come out and affect him.

Idk I thought it was rigged to just come out of naruto once seen by his mangekyou. couldn't he change the command of koto?? im most likely wrong here but I remember bee asking why itachi didn't use it on sasuke in the first place. itachi said how he couldn't use it at the time because it needed 10 years. so in that statement, itachi was able to use the eye in a different manner instead of only on his eyes.
 

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Idk I thought it was rigged to just come out of naruto once seen by his mangekyou. couldn't he change the command of koto?? im most likely wrong here but I remember bee asking why itachi didn't use it on sasuke in the first place. itachi said how he couldn't use it at the time because it needed 10 years. so in that statement, itachi was able to use the eye in a different manner instead of only on his eyes.

well,the eye had a command which said 'protect konoha',and i don't think itachi would put it into naruto if it could not be used for another ,also itachi was in auto pilot to attack naruto and killer bee,so he couldnt have used his powers to summon the crow. What he meant was that he couldnt use it on sasuke after it had freed him from edo tensei,cuz he wud have to wait ten more years to use it again as he didnt have senju dna like danzo. He put in naruto to use it against sasuke if the latter took his eyes to gain the ems,which would have worked had he not faced naruto instead.
 

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well,the eye had a command which said 'protect konoha',and i don't think itachi would put it into naruto if it could not be used for another ,also itachi was in auto pilot to attack naruto and killer bee,so he couldnt have used his powers to summon the crow. What he meant was that he couldnt use it on sasuke after it had freed him from edo tensei,cuz he wud have to wait ten more years to use it again as he didnt have senju dna like danzo. He put in naruto to use it against sasuke if the latter took his eyes to gain the ems,which would have worked had he not faced naruto instead.

As itachi explains koto to bee and how he planned on sasuke to gain ems from his eyes, bee asks why he didn't use koto on sasuke in the first place. itachi says he couldn't use it, at least not THEN. He adds that he had other plans for him With his death aside the 10 years of reactivation. so itachi is implying even if he did have koto available in the past, he wouldn't have used it because of his future plans for sasuke to get stronger. why would bee ask why he didn't use it in the first place as a present question when hes directing to at the time he was alive? he speaks past tense of when itachi encountered sasuke before he died at the time he transplanted his eyes since there hasn't been an encounter with him in his edo form yet. Bee did not ask why don't you use koto on him now, he asked why didnt he use it back then.
In this matchup, kotoamatsukami should be In his arsenal, used in its original form not necessarily the command it was used in the plot. Some things can be twisted in a versus matchup especially with certain conditions like no restrictions. no restrictions means itachi has koto. Adding bloodlust is also twisting his character but that's fair in a VERSUS matchup so to restrict a certain move according to how it was done in the manga shouldn't Be accounted for.
 

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Idk, i thought itachi put the crow in naruto as a backup plan incase sasuke didnt turn from evil and still went to attack konoha,just like how he put ama in his eyes to prevent tobi from talkng to him. If sasuke had become good after the fight,then the command on Ka would be useless,cuz he would nit be attacking konoha. We know itachi wanted to make him strong.i don't think itachi would have used KA on sasuke like that anyway. And i don't think itachi could change the order on KA cuz i dont think he could use the tech himself,he didnt transplant it,otherwise he wud have put that in sasuke instead of ama. Anyway,what we know is that the order on KA is to protect konoha,so using it on gaara isnt gonna do much good,and tobi also has knowledge on it. Besides it's in a crow and needs to make visual contact to activate,i don't think killing a crow before it looks at you is gonna be hard rightxd.
 

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I'm going with Tobi and Gaara high difficulty. Naruto and Co. are having trouble against just sharingan Tobi who hasn't even used the Gedo Mazo's attacks against the four. Now a Tobi with his six jins is a formidable threat but Naruto uses BM and takes them out. Now all that is left is Rinnegan Tobi without bijuu but with Gedo Mazo and Gaara VS Edo Itachi and KM Naruto.

Gaara VS Itachi would be a good fight and allow Tobi to beat Naruto, then Tobi helps Gaara beat Itachi and they win.

Tobi has a chance at soloing but I don't think he can do that. Gaara will, however, seal the deal and allow Tobi to claim certain victory. In the end I believe Tobi's team wins mid difficulty.
 

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Idk, i thought itachi put the crow in naruto as a backup plan incase sasuke didnt turn from evil and still went to attack konoha,just like how he put ama in his eyes to prevent tobi from talkng to him. If sasuke had become good after the fight,then the command on Ka would be useless,cuz he would nit be attacking konoha. We know itachi wanted to make him strong.i don't think itachi would have used KA on sasuke like that anyway. And i don't think itachi could change the order on KA cuz i dont think he could use the tech himself,he didnt transplant it,otherwise he wud have put that in sasuke instead of ama. Anyway,what we know is that the order on KA is to protect konoha,so using it on gaara isnt gonna do much good,and tobi also has knowledge on it. Besides it's in a crow and needs to make visual contact to activate,i don't think killing a crow before it looks at you is gonna be hard rightxd.

Lol right on! good talk bud I'm glad this was a conversation and not a bash each other type deal heh
 
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naruto smashes gaara's face in with a blitz at the start.

itachi and naruto then proceed to slap tobi.
 

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No restrictions ey? okay itachi activates his mangekyou, makes Crow come out of naruto, uses koto on tobi, takes him out of the picture
koto is rigged to only work on itachis own eyes. that wont work

itachi and naruto then proceed to slap tobi.
how?

naruto smashes gaara's face in with a blitz at the start.
tobi warps gaara out of harms way or turns gaara intangible.
 
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