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[kellzfresh]

It doesn't matter what kind of prediction you are talking about, nothing about the bible counts as an accurate prediction. Everything the bible says about the future is so vague it's likely to hold true just by chance and the nature of humanity. People are divisive and violent by nature, so a prophecy of war or a civilization in turmoil 'with sin' is pretty much an inevitable fact.

The predictions were still accurate from 2012 years ago
why didn't he say that diseases will reduce because of the improving medicinal care. But he accurately knew it will still increase. You can't beat that

I could make the prediction that there will be murders, disease, famine, war, genocide, and natural disasters in the future. Those are all vague things that happen naturally in our world. So when those things happen in the future, I am not actually making any real predictions. However, some nutjob would see those predictions and would fall into the sharpshooter's fallacy for each one, claiming that there is some meaning in those vague predictions.

Looool. They were still accurate. No single fault

Homosexuality isn't any more rampant now than it was back then. You are illogically believing in some nostalgic 'better times' scenario that never actually existed. Furthermore, homosexuality is a natural occurrence (as is bisexuality) in nature amongst all species of animals.

Humans are also an animal species, so it's not like we are exempt from nature when it comes to sexual behavior. Most mammalian species reproduce in the same way, so it's completely understandable that humans would also experience homosexuality like most other mammals.

Homosexuality was a sin then and you could be killed if caught in public. But it is not now. Stop denying that it has substancially increased and that prediction was correct, it is ignorance U_U

Diseases and viruses do not form out of 'thin air.' Both diseases and viruses occur naturally within other species as a result of genetics and cell mutation. New strains of diseases occur when there is contact between two different species and a disease mutates and becomes adaptable to a new host.

There is no truth to the claim that there are more diseases and viruses now than there ever was before because we don't know what kinds of diseases and viruses used to exist. People who were living during the biblical days were completely ignorant to diseases and viruses because they had no medical science.

If you got the flu at the time when Jesus was alive, people prayed for you to get better. Most people who got the flu DIED, despite being prayed for. Now you can get a flu shot every year or two and never worry about getting the flu, thanks to our understanding of science and medicine.

It's fundamentally flawed logic to think that a people who's average life expectancy was age 30, due to the fact that they had absolutely zero scientific or medical knowledge, would have been able to distinguish the number of diseases that existed back then and provide a reliable comparison to the number we have now. People used to die from infection, the common cold, their teeth, and child birth. Now our average life expectancy is nearly 3x as long, again, thanks to our understanding of science and medicine.

Lool, as a modern person yourself, go and research from 1900 till 2012 the number of new diseases and come back and tell me if it is increasing or reducing U_U don't be ignorant. it was accurate

Again, this is fundamentally flawed logic. During Jesus' time, there wasn't an accurate or reliable method for recording natural disasters, since books were scarce, most people were illiterate, and there was no technology. Back then, when a natural disaster occurred, it was thought to be an act of god being angry, and so people prayed and made sacrifices to try and appease the gods.

However, there wasn't a single person who kept track of worldwide natural disasters in order to give us an accurate record as far back as the times of Jesus. So like your disease claims, your natural disaster claims are also false.

Now, let's assume for a moment that both your claims WERE true. What do those claims have to do with whether or not god exists, and how would they prove anything?

I told you to check for your science statistics and you can tell that it is increasing. Am I lying with this statement?
No
Hence the prediction was correct. More natural disasters than before. More earthquakes and flooding (according to scientists caused by global warming, unless you don't listen to the news too)

A prophet is someone who is picked by god to deliver his message. Ironically, no one can provide evidence that there has ever been a real prophet. On top of that, there isn't a single prophecy within the bible that couldn't have been foretold by the average person who has half a brain and even the slightest understanding of society.

Again, the prophecies within the bible are so vague and generic, anyone could reliably make them. They are not compelling, much less proof of god.

I said there are people saying that they are the messiah from God.(False prophets are more rampant)
. The prediction was still accurate. You must be trolling to deny this :sy:

It doesn't matter what calender system we use. Most of the world just happens to be religious, that doesn't make religion true, nor does that prove god's existence. Look at Christmas in America. We still celebrate it every year, even as non christians and non pagans.

Loool the fact still remains that the calendar was made from after Jesus death :shrug:

I already explained the difference between belief and knowledge. People can believe in scientists all they want to, but that isn't a necessary position to hold in order for science to be true.

We have facts that science gives us based on evidence, so the proper position to hold in the realm of science, would be knowledge, not belief. However, there are plenty of people who do not accept scientific claims simply because they don't have a good enough understanding of science to be able to justify that position, and there is nothing wrong with that.

However, when it comes down to it, no matter who doesn't believe in science or accept it, it is still providing facts and evidence to support what it says. Religion is NOT. The bible is not proof of anything. The Koran is not proof of anything. Neither one can be used as evidence to validate anything that religion says.

On top of that, both are full of immoral behaviors and events that are both condoned and commanded by god. If we still got our morality from the bible, we would never have gotten out of the bronze age.

God gave us brains to create, and be smarter. So some people will definately use their brains given by God to discover ordinary things and they think they are higher than God, hence there is no God. :sy:
The evidence science should provide is not petty cars. They should create (mountains, sky, new air, planets or even ordinary new human) then they can proudly confirm there is no God. :shrug:

 

[squigles]

The predictions were still accurate from 2012 years ago

I predict that you will continue to spout drivel about how people used magic 2000 years ago to know about vague things that ignorant people like you are dumb enough to believe in today.

I also predict that nothing you say will be grounded in any sort of fact and not worth reading or responding to.

So when are you going to get on your knees and worship me?

 

[kellzfresh]

I predict that you will continue to spout drivel about how people used magic 2000 years ago to know about vague things that ignorant people like you are dumb enough to believe in today.

I also predict that nothing you say will be grounded in any sort of fact and not worth reading or responding to.

So when are you going to get on your knees and worship me?

Loool.
Predict sometin accurately for 2000 years later and give me a call

 

[squigles]

Loool.
Predict sometin accurately for 2000 years later and give me a call

That's not how predictions work, as I've been pointing out since your original wall of stupidity. Everything that's ever been 'predicted' can be summed up by the sharpshooter fallacy.

Look it up.

 

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[Anorien16]

Well not be a douche but NOSTRADAMUS, a jew forcefully converted christian in France too made prophecies witch came to be true . . . see

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and he used astrology and other divination process to do that . . . believe what u want to about him . . . . he made much more accurate prediction than in the Bibel. So is he another prophet or just a lucky guesser?

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[kellzfresh]

That's not how predictions work, as I've been pointing out since your original wall of stupidity. Everything that's ever been 'predicted' can be summed up by the sharpshooter fallacy.

Look it up.

That is how the bible was
In isaiah, he said he was shown signs by God that Jesus will come. After 1000 years later, it was true.
Jesus predicted accurately that we would have increased earthquakes,
new diseases(sars, h1n1 even aids),
false pastors(now pastors are even gay :sy: opposite of the bible teachings they preach), increased gays
No love for a supreme God (like you)
Many more I can't remember. And they are happening now.

Prayers work tooo. People are really healed all of a sudden after being prayed for (even for cancer, aids, diabetes, and incurable diseases) I've seen doctors who can't explain how this happened. Diseases vanishing from their patients.

A God who wants people to do good and not those who say if you kill you get 100 virgins :sy:
Or some dum scientists that say we evolved from apes. Then another says it was a big bang that formed the earth :sy:
Why don't they stick to one theory?
Bcos they don't know :flaw:
They are not sure :flaw:
They say they have proof? Recreate a mini version of the big bang or create life. :shrug:

If ur father travelles away and leaves a man a message for u and hasn't come back yet, does it mean you don't have a father? :sy: or there is noi proof? :sy:
This is how scientists decieve pple to think that disgusts me.

 

[Fujin]

That is how the bible was
In isaiah, he said he was shown signs by God that Jesus will come. After 1000 years later, it was true.
Jesus predicted accurately that we would have increased earthquakes,
new diseases(sars, h1n1 even aids),
false pastors(now pastors are even gay :sy: opposite of the bible teachings they preach), increased gays
No love for a supreme God (like you)
Many more I can't remember. And they are happening now.

Prayers work tooo. People are really healed all of a sudden after being prayed for (even for cancer, aids, diabetes, and incurable diseases) I've seen doctors who can't explain how this happened. Diseases vanishing from their patients.

A God who wants people to do good and not those who say if you kill you get 100 virgins :sy:
Or some dum scientists that say we evolved from apes. Then another says it was a big bang that formed the earth :sy:
Why don't they stick to one theory?
Bcos they don't know :flaw:
They are not sure :flaw:
They say they have proof? Recreate a mini version of the big bang or create life. :shrug:

If ur father travelles away and leaves a man a message for u and hasn't come back yet, does it mean you don't have a father? :sy: or there is noi proof? :sy:
This is how scientists decieve pple to think that disgusts me.

I'm sorry, science deceiving people? Do you even know what science is? I also find it quite hilarious that you call scientists "dum" without even spelling the word right. You know what disgusts me? Ignorant people.

Science is a rigorous system of collecting data and finding a theorem which matches it. A scientist's claims are put under scrutiny from a peer review which replicates the original scientists setup. If it can't be replicated, it's tossed out. It's not some random crap that just pops into peoples heads. You probably even think that the reason why scientists believe we came from apes is because they are the closest animal to looking like a human. It's based on genetics, which as far as determining ancestors goes is the most accurate method. One of great things about science is that it's self-correcting, meaning that if there is a flaw eventually it will be replaced by something more accurate. Unlike holy books, which do not get revised unless the majority of its followers have a change in view point. :sy:

Just because your holy book says it happened another way doesn't make it so. I am perfectly fine with people who are religious, as long as they don't try discredit science. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. Without science you wouldn't even be using a computer or the internet, so why is it that you so readily attack them while using all of their developments?

Oh, and that metaphor at the end there, does not accurately represent the situation. It would be the same as a unicorn leaving a message for you with someone else, telling you how to live and expecting you to believe that they were you creator. To me, it just sounds like the messenger was a delusional control freak.

Lastly, the amount of face palms and slaps you used is utterly ridiculous, an ant could write a more eloquent piece of writing. :sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy:

 

[Anorien16]

That is how the bible was
In isaiah, he said he was shown signs by God that Jesus will come. After 1000 years later, it was true.
Jesus predicted accurately that we would have increased earthquakes,
new diseases(sars, h1n1 even aids),
false pastors(now pastors are even gay :sy: opposite of the bible teachings they preach), increased gays
No love for a supreme God (like you)
Many more I can't remember. And they are happening now.

Prayers work tooo. People are really healed all of a sudden after being prayed for (even for cancer, aids, diabetes, and incurable diseases) I've seen doctors who can't explain how this happened. Diseases vanishing from their patients.

A God who wants people to do good and not those who say if you kill you get 100 virgins :sy:
Or some dum scientists that say we evolved from apes. Then another says it was a big bang that formed the earth :sy:
Why don't they stick to one theory?
Bcos they don't know :flaw:
They are not sure :flaw:
They say they have proof? Recreate a mini version of the big bang or create life. :shrug:

If ur father travelles away and leaves a man a message for u and hasn't come back yet, does it mean you don't have a father? :sy: or there is noi proof? :sy:
This is how scientists decieve pple to think that disgusts me.

Actually its your level of ignorance that disgusts anyone who has half a brain.

Or some dum scientists that say we evolved from apes. Then another says it was a big bang that formed the earth :sy:
Why don't they stick to one theory?
Bcos they don't know :flaw:
They are not sure :flaw:
They say they have proof? Recreate a mini version of the big bang or create life. :shrug:

First of all u dont know the scientific theories and their descriptions and jumbles them together in one pot. Big Bang Theory merely explains the possible reason for the current situation of the Universe not how life originated, Theory of Evolution just says how life can change but not how it originated (BTW Micro evolution is PROVEN, but its Macro evolution thats giving trouble), Primal Soup says how life originated . . . . They describe different things and are not the same but ur uneducated and underdeveloped brain is unable to grasp the details and like a Kindergartener is unwilling to learn the the whole thing and looking for a short cut. If Evolution is true then u surely evolved from a donkey.

As for doing a Mini Big Bang, the initial recreated singularity would consume the earth plus the the effects would be too small to properly observe. BTW CERN is trying to do something similar only. As for creating life, the first step is already done give it a few more decades and then we shall see . . . till then perhaps Genetic Engineering may satisfy you.

Prayers work tooo. People are really healed all of a sudden after being prayed for (even for cancer, aids, diabetes, and incurable diseases) I've seen doctors who can't explain how this happened. Diseases vanishing from their patients.

Yeah they work but in how many cases? It works in only about 0.01% cases the rest are God's will right? But then the Meds are better Gods as they work 99% . . . . All Worship Penicillin!!!!!!
Personally when I was young I was suffering from viral fever for three days but after my mom took me to a Hindu temple, i was fit and strong right after I came out of the doors..... Does that prove that Jesus was wrong or just my immunity finally kicking back coincidentally at that moment? Please dont say that Christian prayers healed me, cos if it was true i wld not suffered for three days and start healing right after entered a non-Christian place of worship.
BTW I watch Discovery channel a lot but never heard a case of advanced Cancer being cured . . . barring the wrong diagnosis scenario.

That is how the bible was
In isaiah, he said he was shown signs by God that Jesus will come. After 1000 years later, it was true.
Jesus predicted accurately that we would have increased earthquakes,
new diseases(sars, h1n1 even aids),
false pastors(now pastors are even gay :sy: opposite of the bible teachings they preach), increased gays
No love for a supreme God (like you)
Many more I can't remember. And they are happening now.

Well not be a douche but NOSTRADAMUS, a jew forcefully converted christian in France too made prophecies witch came to be true . . . see

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and he used astrology and other divination process to do that . . . believe what u want to about him . . . . he made much more accurate prediction than in the Bibel. So is he another prophet or just a lucky guesser or there is really some truth in divination?

But Jesus failed to predict that there will be cure to the disease, yes disease will always be there (so the prophecy will always be true) but we will just discover the cure for it.

Also actually earthquakes has not increased by that much, its just that we get more accurate news due to modern technology. See:

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A God who wants people to do good and not those who say if you kill you get 100 virgins :sy:

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-The witch burnings, including the Joan of Arc
- The Crusades
- The Black Discrimination and slavery
- The invasion of the New World
- The Prosecution of people like Galileo and Copernicus

are a few well known things . . . .

Plus actually I dont think Quran said that.

If ur father travelles away and leaves a man a message for u and hasn't come back yet, does it mean you don't have a father? :sy: or there is noi proof? :sy:
This is how scientists decieve pple to think that disgusts me.

A proper father would treat his children equally, but he forgot about poor Australia and America totally . . . he didnt even know or care about them enough to ask his unknowing followers to go and spread the Gospel to save their souls.

Also by Bible God is always watching the Earth and is omnipresent and omnipotent . . . . . so he just cant take a vacation.


If u will take a little advice: Respect every people's opinions and try to read a few things other than the Bible and Naruto, I would not have spoken out if u didnt insult the Islam and talked like a uneducated savage.

PS I have no problem with God but its his hypocritical and 'oh i m so gonna go to heaven' followers that i can not tolerate.

PPS Scientists never deceived people (frauds do that), they cant gain anything by that . . . rather is was the Church that insisted to punish people like Galileo, so who has the history of deception?
As for scientist they never say that there is no God just say that there is no proof/evidence (BTW unlike what most people think there are Scientists from other religions than Christianity) . . . . religion prevents free thinking and so they abstain from it (See Galileo and the Church)

 

[ShishaMastah420]

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Just a picture...The webpage is just a picture...

 

[squigles]

Thank you Fujin and Anorien for responding to that guy. I wanted to say something so badly last night, but I just didn't feel like making a wall of text pointing out the down syndrome of his logic.

To make a few more points:

Religion is STILL killing people today. Just look at the Catholic Church in Africa, telling all these aids victims that they will go to hell if they use condoms. Look at all these African mothers who are killing their children because they think they are witches.

This is the kind of stupidity that religion breeds. The only reason why we have science, medicine, and technology is because people abandoned religion in favor of common sense.

And here's the thing kellzfresh: You're saying that you believe in god. And the reason you're giving for that belief, is this positive assertion that the bible accurately predicted the future.

You have two claims here that YOU must provide factual evidence to support. You need to provide evidence that the bible is TRUE, and that the predictions you claim it makes are also true.

The problem with that though, is you are comparing the knowledge and understanding of people from 2000+ years ago with the knowledge and understanding of people today. Back then, people were generally stupid and thought EVERYTHING was an act of god. They had no way of telling the difference between the flu and the plague, because they both killed the sick person.

They had no way of accurately recording events or statistics because most the people around back then couldn't read or write. On top of all that, they did not have the capability of being able to relay information to all corners of the world.

So when you claim that predictions were made, you're completely ignoring the facts. If the bible said that people will be sick, well then yeah, that's obvious. People will be sick. But if the bible mentioned specific diseases like aids, cancer, or ebola, and then described each one in detail, then THOSE would be predictions. However, it doesn't do that. It only mentions sickness, which could be anything and is really a ****ing stupid thing to predict. It's a DUH moment. Same thing with natural disasters. There will be earth quakes, floods, hurricanes, droughts, volcanic eruptions, ect. That's a DUH moment too.

It would be a prediction if the Bible said there would be a 4.6 magnitude earthquake in Haiti near the capital of Port-au-Prince, on March 8, 2012. However, the bible doesn't predict anything remotely close, as it just says 'there will be natural disasters.' /facepalm. You'd have to be a moron to believe that these are 'accurate' predictions.

It's painfully obvious that your understanding of science it so tragically skewed and uninformed that everything you post about science is blatantly retarded.

 

[Ashflura]

Religion is STILL killing people today. Just look at the Catholic Church in Africa, telling all these aids victims that they will go to hell if they use condoms. Look at all these African mothers who are killing their children because they think they are witches.

This is the kind of stupidity that religion breeds. The only reason why we have science, medicine, and technology is because people abandoned religion in favor of common sense.

I would not call that religion, that is the fault of superstition. People get carried away with the fear of the unknown and it leads them to horrendous actions. The basis of religion, well Islam, is to satisfy the person's well being of the unknown, remove superstition and live with common sense and science.

 

[kellzfresh]

Squigles the preditions are not the only reason I believe in God. There are many more
Fujin and Anorien 16 you did not follow the earlier arguments that led to here properly so don't be rude
I only replied squigles sarcastically in my last post because he gave me a very sarcastic answer.

You guys miss the point so badly. Let me put it this way

People believe more in science because of proof. I never said I hate science. I only hate their opinions about religion. I love science it definately made the world easier.
But when it comes to religion, they fail.

God created the world and they say its a big bang.
The world is going through global warming, why don't the test out this bigbang to see if they can form a smaller one, or solve some problems since they know how to create it now.
No they can't, they just formed the theory that's why. So until they show proof of creating air (not by mixing already existing compounds) then their proof logic on religion fails. It means someone created the world.

They know how to make parts of the human body and replicate almost every part, but they can't put it in a system to form a human.
Why? Its not just that simple, it is not just human. Something supernatural created us.

Anioren 16, why I said that if a father leaves a message and then goes back to watch is bcos God gave us the best gift. Not money, not anything else but freedom to choose. That is what pple don't understand.
He thinks higher than you and I. If I were God I could have controled the humans like robots (moon eye plan, so that everything is perfect). But He is different.
Everyone's greatest desire is the freedom to do whatever he wants. And that is why God really gave.
So some humans like you and I, will try to prove Him wrong.
Some will believe, some will not. But I've said why I don't believe science religious theories.

So you see, the scientists can't really prove God doesn't exist either. So :shrug:
They must do more than say there is no proof he exists.
They have to start creating the things we see around us, that no one thinks humans can do to really convince people that voted God on the poll.

My uncle's life was saved by prayers.... He had aids, his diabetic problem got worse, he entered paralysis. The doctors said there was nothing they can do again, we gave up.
Till someone came to pray 3hr everyday for 2 weeks.
He was then saved. He can walk now and is perfecly normal.
Science can't explain these so they don't put it on CNN so that we can all see.
But obviously not everyone will believe and label that incident as LUCK anyway.

 

[Nathan]

My uncle's life was saved by prayers.... He had aids, his diabetic problem got worse, he entered paralysis. The doctors said there was nothing they can do again, we gave up.
Till someone came to pray 3hr everyday for 2 weeks.
He was then saved. He can walk now and is perfecly normal.
Science can't explain these so they don't put it on CNN so that we can all see.
But obviously not everyone will believe and label that incident as LUCK anyway.

I'm sorry. But no. Stuff like that just doesn't get healed just like that. Question does he still have AIDS? Or was he 'cured' from that too? I don't label it as luck whatsoever.

 

[Anorien16]

God created the world and they say its a big bang.
The world is going through global warming, why don't the test out this bigbang to see if they can form a smaller one, or solve some problems since they know how to create it now.
No they can't, they formed it that's why. So until they show proof of creating air (not by mixing already existing compounds) then their proof logic on religion fails. It means someone created it.

They know how to make parts of the human body and replicate almost every part, but they can't put it in a system to form a human.
Why? Its not just that simple, it is not just human. Something supernatural created us.

Well as i said it ur scientific knowledge is flawed cos creating even a small scale big bang would require at least a a galaxy wide matter to be gathered and heated to over Sun's Core level in order for it to be a observable scale and that would destroy the Earth . . . . only a super nova can be something similar to a Big Bang and that too will require a star larger than the Sun. So if u can get us a star i m sure the scientists will be happy to experiment.

As for creating life . . . we actually dont have proper definition of life due to the damned viruses . . . but give it time and we may actually discover the secret.

Also scientists can never prove that God does not exist, they can just prove that the people who wrote the Bible (or any other such book) were wrong.

Anioren 16, why I said that if a father leaves a message and then goes back to watch is bcos God gave us the best gift. Not money, not anything else but freedom to choose. That is what pple don't understand.
He thinks higher than you and I. If I were God I could have controled the humans like robots (moon eye plan, so that everything is perfect). But He is different.
Everyone's greatest desire is the freedom to do whatever he wants. And that is why God really gave.
So some humans like you and I, will try to prove Him wrong.
Some will believe, some will not. But I've said why I don't believe science religious theories.

As i have said before i not a atheist i just dont have ties with any religion (but my line of thought overlaps with Sikhs). . . i just cant tolerate the way every religions has become: the killings, the discrimination etc Religions are supposed to bring us together in love, peace, harmony and tolerance but instead it is tearing us apart . . . every religions have their miracles: Carla Bruni concived after she prayed at the Dargha at Aligar, Your Uncle, My own fever, the Buddhist ways of selecting the reincarnated Lama . . . all of them are true so does not that mean we are looking at the same thing just in different ways? But no we have to curse, threaten, extort, kill etc just in the name of religion.

I myself grew up in a missionary school and respected Jesus a lot and just similarly saw the wisdom in Quran, i even studied a bit of Buddhism . . . but when i saw the hate that has to come with religion, i realized that the people are wrong, if there was God he would not have wanted his children destroyed for what kind of creator can tolerate his creations being destroyed? . . . Funnily it was Nagato who described it perfectly, he said 'It is love that gives rise to hate' ... how true cause your love for your own religion requires u to hate/dislike those who are not of your religion.

 

[Ashflura]

I myself grew up in a missionary school and respected Jesus a lot and just similarly saw the wisdom in Quran, i even studied a bit of Buddhism . . . but when i saw the hate that has to come with religion, i realized that the people are wrong, if there was God he would not have wanted his children destroyed for what kind of creator can tolerate his creations being destroyed? . . . Funnily it was Nagato who described it perfectly, he said 'It is love that gives rise to hate' ... how true cause your love for your own religion requires u to hate/dislike those who are not of your religion.

That is what is disappointing with a lot of religious members that claim by name they are, but go against the teachings. It creates a bad name for those that do, and makes the true minority that follow it correctly overlooked by the majority. So many religions preach peace and tolerance, but people forget to control their will power, and get carried away with emotions like jealousy, anger and hatred, which leads to all the stuff you hate.

 

[AngryRock]

i realized that the people are wrong, if there was God he would not have wanted his children destroyed for what kind of creator can tolerate his creations being destroyed? . . . Funnily it was Nagato who described it perfectly, he said 'It is love that gives rise to hate' ... how true cause your love for your own religion requires u to hate/dislike those who are not of your religion.

He does not tolerate his creations being destroyed because he punishes you to hell. The only way to not go to this eternal punishment is by believing in Jesus.

Well as i said it ur scientific knowledge is flawed cos creating even a small scale big bang would require at least a a galaxy wide matter to be gathered and heated to over Sun's Core level in order for it to be a observable scale and that would destroy the Earth . . . . only a super nova can be something similar to a Big Bang and that too will require a star larger than the Sun. So if u can get us a star i m sure the scientists will be happy to experiment.

Well that is true. His scientific knowledge is slightly flawed.

Also scientists can never prove that God does not exist, they can just prove that the people who wrote the Bible (or any other such book) were wrong.

Well they have not proven the bible wrong yet

 

[Anorien16]

He does not tolerate his creations being destroyed because he punishes you to hell. The only way to not go to this eternal punishment is by believing in Jesus.

Well it is not helping much as innocent children still murdered, there is still rape cases, good people are still being discriminated in the name of religion. Any loving parent would intervene . . . he personally talked with and convinced Paul, what wrong with doing the same thing for a change?

PS Dont give examples of miracles cos there are miracles in every religion.

Well they have not proven the bible wrong yet

Not wholly but things like Psalm 104:5 He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. are proved to be wrong . . . . But still some of Jesus's moral philosophies are eternal truths.

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Now squigles might be a bitch, but he seems to know his shit.
I mean, kellzfresh, are you serious?
It is impossible to disprove the existence of something, which is why

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Read this, though, I'm sure you'll recognise some of the stuff from your own arguments.

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Read the God Delusion, bro. I only got as far as the third chapter before I had to return it, but it's definitely worth considering.

Consider that all your 'prayer miracles' rely on the

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fallacy.
Read the Texan Sharpshooter fallacy. squigles mentioned it and here's the link;

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[Uzamki Seerar]

okay religoun is the cause of all the worst wars in history really well can i just remind people that world war 1 and 2 was the worst but religoun really didnt have nothing to do with it did it ,comunism also to those who hate religoun and believe a world without realigoun would be wonderland you would probably have been up to world war 50000000 dont blame religoun blame the people duuuh