[Discussion] Naruto 597 & Kakashi Gaiden Connection

[HiiTMAN]

I found something abit intriguing about Naruto manga chapter 597 and Naruto episodes 119 & 120. That Tobi stated something pretty close to Kakashi to what Minato told Obito.

Tobi to Kakashi
~(Manga) I told you not to open your mouth so easily! You're just words and no actions, what someone like you says is worth nothing!

Minato to Obito
~(Anime) If you don't control your mouth, then your mind will become just as weak.

~(Manga) It's fine to speak of self-control, but you must be strong at heart, not just in words.

I'm not disproving any prediction, just stating what intrigued me when i rewatched Naruto episodes 119 & 120.​

 

[-S-]

Hmm nice, but did he say that in the manga?

In the anime, they might add stuff in.

 

[natzzz]

still he's not obito.

 

[Ciao]

Yeah, I noticed that too.

 

[Narutohokage7]

Hmm nice, but did he say that in the manga?

In the anime, they might add stuff in.

This.

 

[HiiTMAN]

Hmm nice, but did he say that in the manga?

In the anime, they might add stuff in.

In the manga minato tells obito "It's fine to speak of self-control, but you must be strong at heart, not just in words." The anime does change the words around, but not the meaning of the storyline.

 

[HiiTMAN]

still he's not obito.

Yea i dont think so either.

 

[Expulso]

Tobi is not Obito people, he just has his eye.

 

[Dean-Winchester]

i was going to say that... but some how but man lets just wait and see enough with these tobi theories ......... that being said from my ranting and my i agree and rep the connection.... the onlly thing that is stopping tobi being obito is the timeline really ........ but counteringthat fact is that madara was possibly still alive ......and orochimaru knows tobi ..............

i dont know Mind****i hope this is the last of the tobi thread cause we got a ****iing sticky

 

[HiiTMAN]

i was going to say that... but some how but man lets just wait and see enough with these tobi theories ......... that being said from my ranting and my i agree and rep the connection.... the onlly thing that is stopping tobi being obito is the timeline really ........ but counteringthat fact is that madara was possibly still alive ......and orochimaru knows tobi ..............

i dont know Mind****i hope this is the last of the tobi thread cause we got a ****iing sticky

For all we know it could be some random rock village ninja that stalked Kakashi, Obito, and Rin. Now that would be crazy lmfaoo xd

 

[TheJokerXIII]

Here's what I think:
1. Tobi is going to to be revealed as Obito.
2. Tobi's/Obito's past will be revealed (like how every other Naruto characters past gets revealed before they die or on the verge of death or verbally.)
3. He will tell his true reason why he wants the world to be shrouded in the Dream of Infinite Tsukuyomi. (I think it's because of Rin. Obito loved her. But she loved Kakashi which explains his attitude towards Kakashi. He wants to create an illusion as if Rin loved him. Tobi's intentions aren't all that bad. He wants to create a world "where heroes don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves" meaning no grieving.) (Quote as read in Naruto Manga 597 Page #17)
4. Why would the original Naruto Manga end showing Kakashi's past with Obito, and Rin?

 

[elxdark]

Here's what I think:
1. Tobi is going to to be revealed as Obito.
2. Tobi's/Obito's past will be revealed (like how every other Naruto characters past gets revealed before they die or on the verge of death or verbally.)
3. He will tell his true reason why he wants the world to be shrouded in the Dream of Infinite Tsukuyomi. (I think it's because of Rin. Obito loved her. But she loved Kakashi which explains his attitude towards Kakashi. He wants to create an illusion as if Rin loved him. Tobi's intentions aren't all that bad. He wants to create a world "where heroes don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves" meaning no grieving.) (Quote as read in Naruto Manga 597 Page #17)
4. Why would the original Naruto Manga end showing Kakashi's past with Obito, and Rin?

Rin loved obito... your argument is invalid

 

[TheJokerXIII]

That was after he died. He was always trying to impress her.

 

[UnrealSoul]

That was after he died. He was always trying to impress her.

Still...he is not obito....and if you read the recent manga Tobi first met kakashi at "The Fight of Kanabi Bridge" akashi was an adult/teenager then that means obito is already dead.This is were Kakashi first became famous by being awarded the title "The hero with the sharnigan" so in other words OBITO IS ALREADY DEAD.Tobi has a sht ton of sharnigans and you people always forget he had always had Two sharnigans implanted in his eye.Their is no way obito unlocked his ms because he didn't see any of his friends die.

Also to add on Tobi does not have EMS because all the uchihas with a MS are dead.

Madara knows tobi and tobi fought Minato when kakashi was still a teen.Clearly tobi is far older then kakashi.

 

[jhunereyes]

Here's what I think:
1. Tobi is going to to be revealed as Obito.
2. Tobi's/Obito's past will be revealed (like how every other Naruto characters past gets revealed before they die or on the verge of death or verbally.)
3. He will tell his true reason why he wants the world to be shrouded in the Dream of Infinite Tsukuyomi. (I think it's because of Rin. Obito loved her. But she loved Kakashi which explains his attitude towards Kakashi. He wants to create an illusion as if Rin loved him. Tobi's intentions aren't all that bad. He wants to create a world "where heroes don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves" meaning no grieving.) (Quote as read in Naruto Manga 597 Page #17)
4. Why would the original Naruto Manga end showing Kakashi's past with Obito, and Rin?

TOBI's physical form is OBITO, not just the EYE.... and is being manipulated. That's what i think

 

[UnrealSoul]

TOBI's physical form is OBITO, not just the EYE.... and is being manipulated. That's what i think

Thats retared for tobi to go into a kids body then later in the manga when he was fighting konan you can clearly see tobi is old as dirt.Meaning kakashi should be looking like hiruzen....:flaw:

No...just no tobi does not have obitos body but maybe just his eye.

 

[valryuu]

From what I remember, what was shown was that the right side of his face was all wrinkly... but would it be possible that it would be a result of scarring when Obito was being crushed by the rock (which was also on his right side)?

Also, it could be entirely possible that the event that triggered Obito's Mangekyo ability was some kind of feeling that he lost his friends...?

Just to clarify, I'm not completely jumping on the "Tobito" bandwagon yet. I was just presenting some arguments for the side of "Tobito."

On the other side now... Didn't Kisame recognize Tobi when he took off his mask as the Mizukage or something like that? So... would it be POSSIBLE that the body of Obito, whether controlled by Obito or not, acted as the Mizukage?

EDIT: I checked up on info, and now I remember that Tobi controlled Mizukage, and was not the Mizukage himself... Disregard that last part please

 

[Chatte]

Rin loved obito... your argument is invalid

Ah, no, Rin loved Kakashi. Obito just as a friend. It's the same thing as in Team 7.
Rin(Sakura) loved/s Kakashi(Sasuke) whistl Obito(Naruto) loved/s her.

Team 7 is somehow a reincarnation of Team Minato.

 

[Ven]

Ah, no, Rin loved Kakashi. Obito just as a friend. It's the same thing as in Team 7.
Rin(Sakura) loved/s Kakashi(Sasuke) whistl Obito(Naruto) loved/s her.

Team 7 is somehow a reincarnation of Team Minato.

Yeah, get that bitch a genius, bitches love geniuses :noc:.

 

[TheJokerXIII]

Here's what I think:
1. Tobi is going to to be revealed as Obito.
2. Tobi's/Obito's past will be revealed (like how every other Naruto characters past gets revealed before they die or on the verge of death or verbally.)
3. He will tell his true reason why he wants the world to be shrouded in the Dream of Infinite Tsukuyomi. (I think it's because of Rin. Obito loved her. But she loved Kakashi which explains his attitude towards Kakashi. He wants to create an illusion as if Rin loved him. Tobi's intentions aren't all that bad. He wants to create a world "where heroes don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves" meaning no grieving.) (Quote as read in Naruto Manga 597 Page #17)
4. Why would the original Naruto Manga end showing Kakashi's past with Obito, and Rin?
5. You know how in flashbacks Orochimaru always helps somebody? (Example, Kimimaro, Kabuto, Haku) I think Orochimaru found Obito stuck underneath the rock. Saved him, then taught him The Living Corpse Reincarnation technique, then wanted revenge just how Sasuke did. Sasuke had hatred for Itachi, Obito had hatred for Kakashi.