The Bijuu Plot hole's?

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Lately I have noticed there are many possible plot holes with the topic of the bijuu.



some examples are...


-Naruto using Bijuu mode, which is just Naruto using 100% of Kurama's chakra which is actually 50% of kurama's power.


When Naruto went Bijuu mode he seemed much more powerful then 5 other bijuu's. Keep in mind those bijuu's had 100% chakra while Naruto was just using 50% of Kurama. It has been hinted that all the bijuu are equal, with Kurama possibly being slightly stronger, This makes absolutely no sense to me, I believe this is a possible plot hole.


-Shukaku in part 1.


This one simply has to be a plot hole to me. When Gaara turned into the Shukaku and then fell asleep to give it full control. Naruto would have no hope, If the Shukaku was indeed a bijuu. I believe Kishimoto didn't even think of Bijuus yet at this point in the story. At this point in the story the Shukaku was simply a spirit of the sand, but as Kishimoto went farther into the story of Naruto he decided to make the bijuu's and include the shikaku as one.
Does that make sense?

The point is ....if Shukaku was as powerful/ had the powers of a bijuu during this fight, Naruto would be dead,
TBB anyone?


-Tailed beast cloak vs Kyuubi mode


There is a obvious difference in power (and looks lol Naruto has to look bada**) even though they are both basically the same. To me a 4 tailed beast cloak is much more powerful then just using kyuubi mode. Whats up with this?




give me your thoughts, do you agree, do you disagree.
are there anymore plot holes on the topic of bijuu's?
 

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I definitely agree with a lot of that, but we don't make the story so its not like it matters. One-tails has been shown to be the weakest of them all, and the 9 tails is the strongest
 

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Yeah, I never noticed that before. +rep

I think what really made Gaara lose though was the summons, Gamabunta. And not only is Kurama the strongest of the 9 tailed beasts, but their strength depends on the number of tails the beast has, so Shukaku is the weakest tailed beast.
 

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maybe the shukaka isnt that strong. meaning he is the weakest.

i dont really know but the chakra that was sealed away was just for the body, so the kyuubi doesnt have a own real body.

naruto opend the seal so the kyuubi can go out. other jinjus have their seals still closed.
meaning would kyuubi still has his body so we would see naruto and kurama side by side.

as you can see with killerbee. sometimes killerbee is out and sometimes hachibi but never both at the same time
 

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Lately I have noticed there are many possible plot holes with the topic of the bijuu.



some examples are...


-Naruto using Bijuu mode, which is just Naruto using 100% of Kurama's chakra which is actually 50% of kurama's power.


When Naruto went Bijuu mode he seemed much more powerful then 5 other bijuu's. Keep in mind those bijuu's had 100% chakra while Naruto was just using 50% of Kurama. It has been hinted that all the bijuu are equal, with Kurama possibly being slightly stronger, This makes absolutely no sense to me, I believe this is a possible plot hole.


-Shukaku in part 1.


This one simply has to be a plot hole to me. When Gaara turned into the Shukaku and then fell asleep to give it full control. Naruto would have no hope, If the Shukaku was indeed a bijuu. I believe Kishimoto didn't even think of Bijuus yet at this point in the story. At this point in the story the Shukaku was simply a spirit of the sand, but as Kishimoto went farther into the story of Naruto he decided to make the bijuu's and include the shikaku as one.
Does that make sense?

The point is ....if Shukaku was as powerful/ had the powers of a bijuu during this fight, Naruto would be dead,
TBB anyone?


-Tailed beast cloak vs Kyuubi mode


There is a obvious difference in power (and looks lol Naruto has to look bada**) even though they are both basically the same. To me a 4 tailed beast cloak is much more powerful then just using kyuubi mode. Whats up with this?




give me your thoughts, do you agree, do you disagree.
are there anymore plot holes on the topic of bijuu's?




There is no plot hole
Tobi was focusing all his power on controlling the tailed beast hence why he did not use the paths of the rinnegan.The tailed beast would not be fighting along side tobi if they had the choice and they were giving naruto info on where the stakes were the entire time of the fight.They tried to hold back as much as they could.Naruto is an uzamaki look up the uzamaki clan because right now i am too lazy to list the abilities and uniqueness of their chakra right now.Naruto has a more powerful version of Bijuu mode then the others due to his heritage.Plus kurama was working with him this time 100 percent.
it was hinted that they their power is not designated by how many tails they have,not that they are flat out equal.

So in the end a more powerful bijuu mode with a cooperating kurama being guided by the tailed beast with another tailed beast as their partner(the eight tails) won the fight
kurama did not just beast everyone by himself.
 
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- Naruto didn't beat Shukaku, he just woke up Gaara. You're right on him not thinking about the bijuu part yet.

- Agreed on 4 tailed vs KCM

- Agreed on 50% Kurama being extra OP
 

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Yeah, I never noticed that before. +rep

I think what really made Gaara lose though was the summons, Gamabunta. And not only is Kurama the strongest of the 9 tailed beasts, but their strength depends on the number of tails the beast has, so Shukaku is the weakest tailed beast.

It is specifically pointed out by the eight tails that,that is not true.
The number of tails does not predetermine the strength of a tailed beast
please read the manga
 

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the bijuu idea was always there, just that in the manga it was never outright mentioned that there were seven other chakra monsters over the world
 

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There is no plot hole
Tobi was focusing all his power on controlling the tailed beast hence why he did not use the paths of the rinnegan.The tailed beast would not be fighting along side tobi if they had the choice and they were giving naruto info on where the stakes were the entire time of the fight.They tried to hold back as much as they could.Naruto is an uzamaki look up the uzamaki clan because right now i am too lazy to list the abilities and uniqueness of their chakra right now.Naruto has a more powerful version of Bijuu mode then the others due to his heritage.Plus kurama was working with him this time 100 percent.
it was hinted that they their power is not designated by how many tails they have,not that they are flat out equal.

So in the end a more powerful bijuu mode with a cooperating kurama being guided by the tailed beast with another tailed beast as their partner(the eight tails) won the fight
kurama did not just beast everyone by himself.

That still doesn't explain how 50% Kurama was that OP compared to a 100% Kurama.

- Naruto didn't beat Shukaku, he just woke up Gaara. You're right on him not thinking about the bijuu part yet.

- Agreed on 4 tailed vs KCM

- Agreed on 50% Kurama being extra OP

Well true he did wake Gaara, but could he really have awakened Gaara if the Shukaku was as powerful as it should have been?

It is specifically pointed out by the eight tails that,that is not true.
The number of tails does not predetermine the strength of a tailed beast
please read the manga


I agree I think the tailed beast are all equal, or are so close in power it shouldn't matter that much.
 

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It is specifically pointed out by the eight tails that,that is not true.
The number of tails does not predetermine the strength of a tailed beast
please read the manga

and yet we have manga page of kurama overpowering 6 other bijuus:)
 

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There is no plot hole
Tobi was focusing all his power on controlling the tailed beast hence why he did not use the paths of the rinnegan.The tailed beast would not be fighting along side tobi if they had the choice and they were giving naruto info on where the stakes were the entire time of the fight.They tried to hold back as much as they could.Naruto is an uzamaki look up the uzamaki clan because right now i am too lazy to list the abilities and uniqueness of their chakra right now.Naruto has a more powerful version of Bijuu mode then the others due to his heritage.Plus kurama was working with him this time 100 percent.
it was hinted that their power is not designated by how many tails they have,not that they are flat out equal.

So in the end a more powerful bijuu mode with a cooperating kurama being guided by the tailed beast with another tailed beast as their partner(the eight tails) won the fight
kurama did not just beast everyone by himself.

They're 5 tailed beasts! They don't need the rinnegans power to take take down a single bijuu.

They weren't giving Naruto info on were the stakes were considering he had to use SM to find them himself.

They were completely under Tobis' control, they were not holding back

I couldn't find any connections between KM Naruto and the Uzumaki clan.
The only abilities the Uzumaki clan has is a long life span.
 
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