Orochimaru is not quite the unbeatable as some people think he is.

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Ok starting with famous Quote by Itachi Every jutsu has a weakness. now think about it even if orochimaru learned all jutsu. it will be useless since every jutsu has a weakness.

Even a Full power O'maru is not quite the unbeatable there are shinobi who can beat him.

Orochimaru's Weakness :

1. high level Genjutsu
2. Speed.
3. Bijuu.


Now some people out there think that O'maru can just beat Jiraiya or many shinobi like its nothing but honestly they are fool to think that.

1. just to kill a kazekage he needed help of Kimimaro & Kabuto.
2. He lost against a old hokage who was far more weaker than Jiraiya.

Now lets think the main thing some people argue is " EDO TENSEI "

but Clearly everybody knows Orochimaru never perfected Edo Tensei. his edo was like some fodder ninjas.
Now here some people will argue that it was part 1 & power level was low.

if you gonna say that Then Here are your 2 Options :

1. Say Orochimaru Edo was Perfect and Accept that (Old Hiruzen can beat 1st & 2nd hokage alone)

Or

2. Agree with me that Orochimarus edo were nothing but Great ninja turning into fodders



If you havent read the manga Hiruzen was searching for Jiraiya lfor so long so he can make him new hokage. only fools can think that old hiruzen was stronger than jiraiya.


Now come to the point of O'marus weakness :

1. High Level Genjustu :

Its no secret that O'maru was suker when it comes to defend himself against a genjutsu.
Itachi Owned him like it was nothing.
Even Orochimaru admitted that Itachi >>>> him.


2. Speed :

Speed is also weakness of O'maru he is not that fast like Raikage, Tobi or minato. There is raikages attacks are like beast. minato is too fast for him & tobi got some dangerous space time techniques.
He cant even catch up to there speed if his eyes cant see the attacks how the Fuk he gonna clock them. before he could even know he is done.

3. Bijuu :

we saw how 4 tail kyubi owned O'maru. like i said Orochimaru is not good at genjutsu or anything. he cant even defeat a jinchuiki who has perfect control or even if dont have perfect control if the tailed beast is out of control then O'maru is done. he dont even have sealing jutsu of that high level to seal a bijuu.


Lets see Orochimaru is one of those guys Who i can say can beat kisame. there are not many people who can beat kisame. o'maru can beat him. but lets see the funny part .

O'maru > Kisame, Kisame > Killer bee, Killer bee > O'maru.

also Jiraiya can beat Kisame & Itachi both at once that shows genjutsu is not really the weakness of jiraiya. even a genius like itachi was worried to go 1 vs 1 against jiraiya, he did which he has to do he used jiraiyas weakness i.e girls to stop jiraiya from getting involved in fight.


Now see there is a guy like Jiraiya who Travels across the world like a boss. even the akatsuki was feared to go against him. he got the guts to attack pain head on without knowing a sh!t about him. actually he was the only guy excluding akatsuki member to even know the Leaders name & information about him.
while on the other hand O'maru who hides in his hideout. he wanted someone to get rid of akatsuki members. but just like some people he underestimated jiraiya because Jiraiya never showed him his full powers or Jiraiya wasnt really planning on killing his friend.

The situation can be stated like this.

Sasuke who keeps underestimating naruto cause naruto really dont want to kill sasuke.
but the same sasuke will get owned if he faught against pain.

now look why i am saying this.......

When Naruto was fighting pain his motive was to kill him thats when he was fighying seriously.
but when he is figting sasuke in his mind he always becomes careful to not hurt him too much.
& sasuke took it wrong way thats why he dont respect naruto people like sasuke & O'maru respect the persons who owns him not the person who got everything to own them but they still dont do it cause they dont want to.

here is O'naru who underestimates Jiraiya cause just like naruto consider sasuke his friend jiraiya consider O'maru his friend. he was never fighting o'maru seriously.
but when jiraiya was fighting Kisame & Itachi he was fighting seriously & even they knew it so they did what is best for them i.e to run away.

Same O'maru will get owned by itachi.
and kisame can give him a fight for his life.



There is no point in using Edo tensei as Excuse.
 
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Awesome thread man
 

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genjutsu, sealing techniques, cuting his head, overpwered jutsus like TBB or Jinton, S/T ninjutsus like Tobis jutsu or Kamui are his weaknesses
 

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yeah you are right he is beatable when he is in his weakest point :noc:
:cool: :kagutsuchi:
 

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If he isn't so unbeatable then how would he have been able to come back after Sasuke & Itachi killed him :shrug:
Even if Sasuke didn't bring him back he'd still be alive in the remaining cursed marked people.
So until you get rid of all the curse marks, he remains unbeatable :cool:
 

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In short: He got Uchiha'd, so he can be beaten.

He's still pretty darn tenacious, to say the least.
 

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If he isn't so unbeatable then how would he have been able to come back after Sasuke & Itachi killed him :shrug:
Even if Sasuke didn't bring him back he'd still be alive in the remaining cursed marked people.
So until you get rid of all the curse marks, he remains unbeatable :cool:

he is like a bird in cage that time. he cant do anything unless someone free him from the cage
 

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Orochimaru did perfect Edo Tensei:
 

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I agree with most of it but -

I don't think Jiraiya could solo both Itachi and Kisame. You guys forget fighting Jiraiya was not Itachi's intention. He only wanted to make his presence known to konoha elders and somehow act like he was going to capture Naruto. Maybe he also wanted to meet Sasuke that way and replant the seed of hatred. Most likely he was lying to Kisame about him and Kisame being out of Jiraiya's league..

As far as I remember, Oro was toying with the 4 tailed naruto. He might be susceptible against a full biiju host but not a 4tailed biiju transformation.

But + rep to you for the effort.

and I dont think Oro had perfected edo tensai like some ppl believe he had.
 
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Let's all be honest here every ninja is beatable, Also oro is no where near the greatest ninja although he is a great ninja that deserves credit to be one of the best he is no where near the level of fighting that we have seen in the last few manga's
 

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so you think Old Hiruzen >>>>>>> Hashirama + Tobirama ????

I'm just letting you know that Orochimaru perfected Edo Tensei. Your reasoning as to why the Hokages seemed weak is incorrect.
 

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I'm just letting you know that Orochimaru perfected Edo Tensei. Your reasoning as to why the Hokages seemed weak is incorrect.


He def did not perfect the EDO if it was a perfected Tensei we would have a Madara on our hands during the first half of naruto not possible, Unless you are willing to say that Oro lost that fight on purpose,
 

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If he isn't so unbeatable then how would he have been able to come back after Sasuke & Itachi killed him :shrug:
Even if Sasuke didn't bring him back he'd still be alive in the remaining cursed marked people.
So until you get rid of all the curse marks, he remains unbeatable :cool:

only one curse mark person left was anko could have amateretsued her lol then pro would be dead oh yea amateretsu kabuto as well but he cant do jut sues in prime he murders most ecxept uchihas
 

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Every jutsu has a weakness, unless you're Madara with unlimited chakra
 
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