Bleach War > Naruto War so far

[NarutoLuffy313]

Do you? All you seem to do is blindy defend Naruto while you snide at Bleach.

You talk about quality over quantity but for some Bleach is better and will be remembered as such. Truth be told if looking at the anime alone Bleach is way more superior by far, Naruto's animations have become are terrible.

When looking at the OP's question I agree, the war (altho it just started) does feel way more exiting than Naruto - alot of people have died so early in the story and from what the writer has said this is only the beginning.

Naruto war has been dragging on for months, NOONE has died (in the war) and it doesn't seem anyone will. So many amazing potential kills but no chances taken.

What does animation have to do with manga :sy:? Last time I checked the Naruto anime is still going .

I bunch of fodder is not alot of people. Byakuya and Kira died in crappy ways but they will be back knowing Kubo. Mark my words.

Ignorance at it's finest, get your facts right.

Madara has no weakeness at all because Kishi confirmed it. Do you really believe that? Obvious fanboy is obvious. So you think Madara is going to stay the way he is right now and blow up the Narutoverse. Btw why are you telling me Madara has no weaknesses? I never even said anything about it.

Apparently, the espada are fodder and Gin is fodder. The fullbringers are fodder as well. You sure know a lot, please enlighten me more with your facts.

Just stop defending Naruto. The beginning of the war was interesting, now it's just trash. In the end, it came back down to the Uchiha and their crappy grudges. Most of the "powerful" edo tensei became fodder ninja, Itachi keeps pulling out random crap from his ass, Kabuto got trolled, Madara is trolling and Orochimaru(who obviously was coming back) was revived in the lamest way possible. Even the white Zetsu's Kishi buffed became pretty crap.

Bleach's war is nice, it's exciting and all, but it's too early to judge the rest. Whereas Naruto is done with the war. It's over, the only things in the way are what? The Uchiha.

:sy: the espada and the captains were trolled hard. Lol the espada were bad guys they are supposed to die yet Kubo will revive some of them :sy:.

All I know is that Kishi will pull a Oda and have the deaths at the end of the war unlike Kubo who will just revive his characters that he killed. As soon as Ichigo shows up the enemy will get trolled like no tommorrow just watch.

And yes Madara will stay and resurrect the Juubi to destroy the Narutoverse. If Kishi, the mangaka since you don't know who he is, says that Madara has no weakness he has no weakness.

 

[Dark Clouds]

I agree with the people who have already said this: a few of the main characters should start dying.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

I just want to add something:

Byakuya got trolled big time.

 

[lubricati0n]

:sy: the espada and the captains were trolled hard. Lol the espada were bad guys they are supposed to die yet Kubo will revive some of them :sy:.

All I know is that Kishi will pull a Oda and have the deaths at the end of the war unlike Kubo who will just revive his characters that he killed. As soon as Ichigo shows up the enemy will get trolled like no tommorrow just watch.

And yes Madara will stay and resurrect the Juubi to destroy the Narutoverse. If Kishi, the mangaka since you don't know who he is, says that Madara has no weakness he has no weakness.

You do know, you said "deaths in bleach", thus you're generalizing. Because a character is the "bad" guy, they are mean't to die? LOL Please, that is hardly true. Grimmjow never died in the first place, neither did those 3 fraccion girls. So I don't see where you're coming from.

Please do tell me, exactly what character in Bleach was confirmed as dead and came back miraculously? Hitsuguya? Maybe Hinamori? Komamura? None of them were confirmed as dead. It's true that no matter how seriously they get injured they don't die, but that's another thing. Also Ichigo is the main character, he is suppose to win at the end. This also applies to Naruto, watch him crush Tobi and then Madara who according to you has no weaknesses.

I can already see why you read Naruto. For the fights. You obviously don't know the main goal of the main character and the plot. "Madara is going to blow up the Narutoverse and Kishi is going to leave everything else unexplained". So even Tobi who Kishi has tried to create some hype for, is going to die being trolled? Does that mean you admit Kishi is just trolling everything?

As for Madara, do you seriously think Madara has no weakness? Obviously Kishi wasn't being straightforward with us. You're way too gullible. What's the point of a character with no weaknesses? Especially at this stage of the manga.

 

[SasukexNeji]

That's what my intuition tells me, but atm I still see Naruto going out with a bang.

Now don't get me wrong, Naruto WILL finish strong, but Kubo has the "clutch gene", he's the comeback kid if you will. Naruto's manga has been relatively steady for some time now, whereas Bleach's manga stifled for a minute, but then picked up full steam ahead. And assuming both are in the 9th inning, even though Kubo said his final arc will take (ten years? WTF!), there is plenty of time for things to go either way. But Kubo's an ace man ... not knocking Kishi at all people, he is genius in his own right.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

You do know, you said "deaths in bleach", thus you're generalizing. Because a character is the "bad" guy, they are mean't to die? LOL Please, that is hardly true. Grimmjow never died in the first place, neither did those 3 fraccion girls. So I don't see where you're coming from.

Please do tell me, exactly what character in Bleach was confirmed as dead and came back miraculously? Hitsuguya? Maybe Hinamori? Komamura? None of them were confirmed as dead. It's true that no matter how seriously they get injured they don't die, but that's another thing. Also Ichigo is the main character, he is suppose to win at the end. This also applies to Naruto, watch him crush Tobi and then Madara who according to you has no weaknesses.

It's according to Kishi not me. Yup being cut in half is getting injured yet some other characters got less worse than that and died. Makes alot of sense doesn't it.

I can already see why you read Naruto. For the fights. You obviously don't know the main goal of the main character and the plot. "Madara is going to blow up the Narutoverse and Kishi is going to leave everything else unexplained". So even Tobi who Kishi has tried to create some hype for, is going to die being trolled? Does that mean you admit Kishi is just trolling everything?

Naruto's goal is to become Hokage and wants to surpass all the pervious Hokages. Tell me the way he is now do you really think he has the fire power to take him down :sy:. The Juubi is said to be the orginator of all chakra and all that exists in the Narutoverse. It's a possiblity the Juubi and Madara will fight.

As for Madara, do you seriously think Madara has no weakness? Obviously Kishi wasn't being straightforward with us. You're way too gullible. What's the point of a character with no weaknesses? Especially at this stage of the manga.

Then tell me what is his weakness. U_U

 

[JasonSamuel]

lol +rep

Dude forget it, you are on a NARUTO website, u cant win a bleach argument here.

Bleach is better than Naruto to me because it just seems like a mature and more realistic manga. (Living a normal life) , their jokes are also better delivered.
Plus it focuses on everyone

Plus friendship in naruto just seems wierd :shrug:

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Dude forget it, you are on a NARUTO website, u cant win a bleach argument here.

Bleach is better than Naruto to me because it just seems like a mature and more realistic manga. (Living a normal life) , their jokes are also better delivered.
Plus it focuses on everyone
Plus friendship in naruto just seems wierd :shrug:

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no just no,

 

[lubricati0n]

It's according to Kishi not me. Yup being cut in half is getting injured yet some other characters got less worse than that and died. Makes alot of sense doesn't it.

Fact is, you can't prove that a character has been confirmed as dead, and later on came back to life. You lost this argument. Like I said, it's true not many of the protagonists have die in Bleach, but none of them have miraculously come back to life either because they never actually died. Btw, Hitsuguya never got cut in half. Harribel cut an ice clone and Aizen cut his arm and part of his leg off. But you forgot that SS has Mayuri. He can regenerate anyones limbs

Oh and also, stop bullshitting. I know it's according to you because you're gullible. You believe everything Kishi has written because Madara is your #1.

Naruto's goal is to become Hokage and wants to surpass all the pervious Hokages. Tell me the way he is now do you really think he has the fire power to take him down :sy:. The Juubi is said to be the orginator of all chakra and all that exists in the Narutoverse. It's a possiblity the Juubi and Madara will fight.

Wow, you think Naruto is not going to get any stronger through random power-ups? Do you know when the manga is going to end? No, you don't. Stop presuming and making up crap because Madara is who you fanboy over. Remember, Naruto is the MAIN protagonist. At this point in the manga, the main protagonist just doesn't simply die along with the everyone else because Madara is ressurrected. The manga would firstly end poorly except for Madara fanboys like yourself and secondly, Kishi would be labelled a troll. Oh wait, he already is.

Then tell me what is his weakness. U_U

I must look like Kishi to you. I better not spoil it. Since when do Mangaka's spoil things so early.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Fact is, you can't prove that a character has been confirmed as dead, and later on came back to life. You lost this argument. Like I said, it's true not many of the protagonists have die in Bleach, but none of them have miraculously come back to life either because they never actually died. Btw, Hitsuguya never got cut in half. Harribel cut an ice clone and Aizen cut his arm and part of his leg off. But you forgot that SS has Mayuri. He can regenerate anyones limbs

It said Byakuya died but he will be back xd. Just watch.

Oh and also, stop bullshitting. I know it's according to you because you're gullible. You believe everything Kishi has written because Madara is your #1.

It seems you do not no me very well. Just because I have Madara avatar and sig doesn't mean he is my favorite character . Just to let you know.

Wow, you think Naruto is not going to get any stronger through random power-ups? Do you know when the manga is going to end? No, you don't. Stop presuming and making up crap because Madara is who you fanboy over. Remember, Naruto is the MAIN protagonist. At this point in the manga, the main protagonist just doesn't simply die along with the everyone else because Madara is ressurrected.

So you think Naruto will beat all 5 villians by himself with a random powerup?

The manga would firstly end poorly except for Madara fanboys like yourself and secondly, Kishi would be labelled a troll. Oh wait, he already is.

I find this really really ironic since Kubo just trolled Byakuya :|. Kishi will end this manga with a bang.

It seems you also didn't noticed what road Kishi is taking this war. He is setting up for everyone to meet up in one spot. I thought you would have noticed that but I was wrong.

I must look like Kishi to you. I better not spoil it. Since when do Mangaka's spoil things so early.

You don't look like Kishi to me because I can't see you over a computer :sy:.

 

[lubricati0n]

It said Byakuya died but he will be back xd. Just watch.

Because some guy said that, everyone thinks he's dead. I'll bet you 300 Kumi, Byakuya hasn't died yet.

It seems you do not no me very well. Just because I have Madara avatar and sig doesn't mean he is my favorite character . Just to let you know.

Doesn't matter. You're still much too gullible.

So you think Naruto will beat all 5 villians by himself with a random powerup?

By himself? I know for a fact that Kishi doesn't develop a lot of his characters well enough, but there are some that would help Naruto. For example Sasuke. Revenge would be the lamest ending for him.

I find this really really ironic since Kubo just trolled Byakuya :|. Kishi will end this manga with a bang.

How did he troll Byakuya? I don't think you know what trolling a character means. Look how fast the Quincy crushed Kira, that should be an example of their power. Trolling a character is like Kabuto. Gets all the hype, owned by some random jutsu Itachi pulls out of his ass.

It seems you also didn't noticed what road Kishi is taking this war. He is setting up for everyone to meet up in one spot. I thought you would have noticed that but I was wrong.

You mean when 9/10 people have died already? Of course, around 4-5 people are going to meet up for a war. Tobi, Madara, Naruto, Sasuke? That's one big war. Not.

You don't look like Kishi to me because I can't see you over a computer :sy:.

Sarcasm. You asked me to tell you Madara's weakness.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Because some guy said that, everyone thinks he's dead. I'll bet you 300 Kumi, Byakuya hasn't died yet.

:flaw: don't you see I don't have enough Kumi for that. If he is not dead that will be bad on Kubo's part. Since technically no character has died yet.

Doesn't matter. You're still much too gullible.

No just no. I'm just following what the author is saying.:sy:

By himself? I know for a fact that Kishi doesn't develop a lot of his characters well enough, but there are some that would help Naruto. For example Sasuke. Revenge would be the lamest ending for him.

He has to fight sasuke, so there will no no help from him.:shrug:

How did he troll Byakuya? I don't think you know what trolling a character means. Look how fast the Quincy crushed Kira, that should be an example of their power. Trolling a character is like Kabuto. Gets all the hype, owned by some random jutsu Itachi pulls out of his ass.

Lol Kubo trolled Byakuya really hard. He had other things to rely other than Bankai. He was said to be a master at Kido. To top it all off they just went through a timeskip that was supposed to improve their skills to match Aizen.
What's the point of improving your bankai if you can't improve your shikai.

You mean when 9/10 people have died already? Of course, around 4-5 people are going to meet up for a war. Tobi, Madara, Naruto, Sasuke? That's one big war. Not.

It seems if you forgoten that Kishi did a build up chapter of all the shinobi alliance going to where Naruto vs Tobi is. :sy:. Even the Konoha Rookies are headed there. Sasuke and Orochimaru will be heading there. Madara is headed there. Put those together and what do you get.

Sarcasm. You asked me to tell you Madara's weakness.

 

[lubricati0n]

:flaw: don't you see I don't have enough Kumi for that. If he is not dead that will be bad on Kubo's part. Since technically no character has died yet.

That's fine, I'll just take whatever you have if I win. Even if it's 1 kumi. Agreed? xd

No just no. I'm just following what the author is saying.:sy:

When have you ever heard of an author that writes a story without surprises. That would be meaningless. Every story needs some surprises. You can't just follow something because the author said it. Authors are mean't to make the readers think and use our imagination.

He has to fight sasuke, so there will no no help from him.:shrug:

Obviously Sasuke is not the final villain. Kishi ain't just going to kill him off after they fight. And actually, there is a possibility that they won't fight after Sasuke finds whatever he's finding.

Lol Kubo trolled Byakuya really hard. He had other things to rely other than Bankai. He was said to be a master at Kido. To top it all off they just went through a timeskip that was supposed to improve their skills to match Aizen.
What's the point of improving your bankai if you can't improve your shikai.

lol like I said you are WAY too gullible. The wiki says most of the captains and VC's are masters at Kido, but that's not true. Yes they can use some Kido without incantation, but true masters are people like Genryuusai, Urahara, Aizen and the Kido corps. They can use HIGH level kido with little or no incantation. Byakuya uses low to mid level kido and he specializes in binding kido as well. That's not exactly a "master". Stop believing that.

They did get stronger. But you read the manga wrong. It didn't exactly say as STRONG as Aizen. It said they trained to get on the level of Aizen, but do you really think he has done that. If Renji is on the level of Aizen, then what level is Hitsuguya on since he has completely 100% mastered his Bankai now. Do you see what I mean? Obviously they aren't on the level of Aizen after the timeskip.

You can't exactly "improve" your Shikai. Shikai and Bankai are like levels. Shikai = first release and Bankai = your full power. So the thing you master is your Bankai, so you can fully control its power. You can think of other ways to use Shikai, but that is about all you can do.

It seems if you forgoten that Kishi did a build up chapter of all the shinobi alliance going to where Naruto vs Tobi is. :sy:. Even the Konoha Rookies are headed there. Sasuke and Orochimaru will be heading there. Madara is headed there. Put those together and what do you get.

That's hardly a war. Tobi + Gedo, Madara by himself, Sasuke + Oro and Naruto with Bee, Kakashi and Hai + the Shinobi Alliance. What kind of war is that? It's so obvious what's going to happen when it gets to this stage. Naruto-> ask shinobi alliance to leave it to him. In the end it will be Naruto, Sasuke, Tobi and Madara and possibly Oro. The rest will spectate. Hinata will probably intervene again, but this time she'll die and Sakura is going to cry again.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

That's fine, I'll just take whatever you have if I win. Even if it's 1 kumi. Agreed? xd

Ok bet 10 Kumi. I need the rest to get an avatar and sig.

When have you ever heard of an author that writes a story without surprises. That would be meaningless. Every story needs some surprises. You can't just follow something because the author said it. Authors are mean't to make the readers think and use our imagination.

It's not really a surprise that Madara has no weakness. Is it? It was obivous since the chapter he broke out of edo tensei.

Obviously Sasuke is not the final villain. Kishi ain't just going to kill him off after they fight. And actually, there is a possibility that they won't fight after Sasuke finds whatever he's finding.

We don't know do we. Kishi said that Naruto and Sasuke might meet in the war. But Sasuke isn't really much of a threaten compared to Tobi and Madara. So Kishi can just ignore him.

lol like I said you are WAY too gullible. The wiki says most of the captains and VC's are masters at Kido, but that's not true. Yes they can use some Kido without incantation, but true masters are people like Genryuusai, Urahara, Aizen and the Kido corps. They can use HIGH level kido with little or no incantation. Byakuya uses low to mid level kido and he specializes in binding kido as well. That's not exactly a "master". Stop believing that.

Even if he isn't a master at kido Byakuya still knows high level Kido Techniques yet he didn't use them to at least fight back. U_U

They did get stronger. But you read the manga wrong. It didn't exactly say as STRONG as Aizen. It said they trained to get on the level of Aizen, but do you really think he has done that. If Renji is on the level of Aizen, then what level is Hitsuguya on since he has completely 100% mastered his Bankai now. Do you see what I mean? Obviously they aren't on the level of Aizen after the timeskip.

The translation I was reading said they were.

You can't exactly "improve" your Shikai. Shikai and Bankai are like levels. Shikai = first release and Bankai = your full power. So the thing you master is your Bankai, so you can fully control its power. You can think of other ways to use Shikai, but that is about all you can do.

See that doesn't really make sense. They really need their bankais now but they were stolen and they are weak without Bankai. The only way they can win now is with plot. Kubo should have never gave them the ability to steal Bankai. If a zanpaktou's full power is Bankai then that makes Shikai useless against an enemy.

That's hardly a war. Tobi + Gedo, Madara by himself, Sasuke + Oro and Naruto with Bee, Kakashi and Hai + the Shinobi Alliance. What kind of war is that? It's so obvious what's going to happen when it gets to this stage. Naruto-> ask shinobi alliance to leave it to him. In the end it will be Naruto, Sasuke, Tobi and Madara and possibly Oro. The rest will spectate. Hinata will probably intervene again, but this time she'll die and Sakura is going to cry again.

Did you also forget the chapter Itachi talked to Naruto about relying on his friends and don't put all the burden on himself. Why do think he is fighting Tobi with the help of Gai, Kakashi, and Bee?

 

[jiraiya lives]

neither,
whitebeard war from one piece kills every bleach and naruto war

 

[lubricati0n]

Ok bet 10 Kumi. I need the rest to get an avatar and sig.

Okay.

It's not really a surprise that Madara has no weakness. Is it? It was obivous since the chapter he broke out of edo tensei.

I mean't any surprises after that. Writers don't always mean things literally, how else do you think they would create suspense and surprise?

We don't know do we. Kishi said that Naruto and Sasuke might meet in the war. But Sasuke isn't really much of a threaten compared to Tobi and Madara. So Kishi can just ignore him.

True that, but still, Sasuke is one of the main characters and he'll definitely be apart of the final battle.

Even if he isn't a master at kido Byakuya still knows high level Kido Techniques yet he didn't use them to at least fight back. U_U

Because high level kido need long incantations, and that Quincy has his Bankai in which she can use freely. Don't forget Senbonzakura is fast.

See that doesn't really make sense. They really need their bankais now but they were stolen and they are weak without Bankai. The only way they can win now is with plot. Kubo should have never gave them the ability to steal Bankai. If a zanpaktou's full power is Bankai then that makes Shikai useless against an enemy.

Well precisely. A Shikai can never win against a Bankai because a Shikai is basically a limiter. Like you said the only ways they can win is by plot or something else Kubo hasn't revealed yet(Squad 0?)

Did you also forget the chapter Itachi talked to Naruto about relying on his friends and don't put all the burden on himself. Why do think he is fighting Tobi with the help of Gai, Kakashi, and Bee?

Ok, I'll give you that. But obviously Itachi doesn't mean the the entire shinobi alliance. Probably the ones you just mentioned and a few more like Tsunade if she's still alive.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Okay.

This will take a long time to end knowing Kubo's pacing .

I mean't any surprises after that. Writers don't always mean things literally, how else do you think they would create suspense and surprise?

There will be surprises about Madara as soon as he gets to where Tobi is because those two have a hige connection and know each other.

True that, but still, Sasuke is one of the main characters and he'll definitely be apart of the final battle.

Yup, .

Because high level kido need long incantations, and that Quincy has his Bankai in which she can use freely. Don't forget Senbonzakura is fast.

I take back about Byakuya being trolled but Kubo could have at least let him doing something important instead of going out like a biitcch.

Well precisely. A Shikai can never win against a Bankai because a Shikai is basically a limiter. Like you said the only ways they can win is by plot or something else Kubo hasn't revealed yet(Squad 0?)

Technically Aizen beat bankai Ichigo with a finger in the soul society arc xd.

Ok, I'll give you that. But obviously Itachi doesn't mean the the entire shinobi alliance. Probably the ones you just mentioned and a few more like Tsunade if she's still alive.

I just want Kishi to focus on the other characters like the rookies instead of Naruto and Sasuke. He promised he will let our favorite characters shine.

 

[Shame]

Hustling money ic lube lol my money's on dead.

 

[lubricati0n]

This will take a long time to end knowing Kubo's pacing .

Maybe you will have 300kumi by then

There will be surprises about Madara as soon as he gets to where Tobi is because those two have a hige connection and know each other.

Yeah, and one of them could possibly be that he actually has a weakness that he himself doesn't know. There's a possibility. xd

I take back about Byakuya being trolled but Kubo could have at least let him doing something important instead of going out like a biitcch

Well Kubo had to display the Quincy's potential and using Byakuya is the same as using another captain. It would've have been the same result.

Technically Aizen beat bankai Ichigo with a finger in the soul society arc xd.

Aizen was light years of levels above Ichigo then. And Aizen never used his Shikai on Ichigo back then, that's why SS could depend on Ichigo during the defend Karakura town arc.

I just want Kishi to focus on the other characters like the rookies instead of Naruto and Sasuke. He promised he will let our favorite characters shine.

Honestly, he still has a little bit of time to do that. But Kishi wasted lots of it. He successfully displayed a badass power-up for Chouji, and he could've done the same with the others. The biggest mistake was reviving so many people with edo-tensei at once. It didn't allow him to make each battle more detailed and give the rookies a power-up or development. Thus most of the rookies are pretty much still useless as of now, and most of the "powerful" edo-tensei didn't live up to their name. Besides Itachi, Nagato and a few others.

 

[EnvyMyApex]

Too bad bleach is a terrible anime.

Too bad your statement holds no credibility because you're just a spammer.

OT: I agree. Kubo isn't scared to kill people off. I'm still waiting for Grimmjow to come back and tear shit up.