[Spoilers] Explination of Tobi Jutsu and how he got hit !

[Hokage emmanuel]

That's it man...you are very correct

 

[Uzumaki Kurama kun]

He died from his injuries and running out of Chakra, not using Kamui twice. Looks like he's controlling his Chakra alot better in this fight.

But he's already used Kamui twice and he must be using a load of chakra anyway at present. A Bijudama will take a WAY more chakra to send off and it will be his third attempt.....

Something tells me that Kakashi is going to sacrifice his life by using one last Kamui with a Bijuudama teleported. That would be something that Kakashi would do.

That's my fear, see my post above. But I like CudaJoe's idea... makes more sense in terms of plot no jutsu too as it'd be a bit rubbish if Kakashi died the same way twice.

 

[Pretium]

Thank You!! Not Everyone Caught On To What Took Place, And, It's Not Because They're Stupid, Or, Slow, I Had NO Idea What Happened On That Part, Thank You For Explaining It

 

[YUYUXFAN]

not on topic, i have not gotten to read the manga lately but what ever happened to the two Anbu members that were with Danzo. Last I read they were taken to Tobi's dimension?

 

[Uzumaki Kurama kun]

not on topic, i have not gotten to read the manga lately but what ever happened to the two Anbu members that were with Danzo. Last I read they were taken to Tobi's dimension?

Kabuto used them to show Tobi how to do Edo Tensei.

 

[MrDrudgeon]

I don't think he won't use kamui anymore because he overuse it like 3 times which cause his body in much pain.

That was at the beginning of shippuden when he had barely any control over it (fighting deidara). it has been evident since pain attacked konoha (using kamui on a chakra rod) that he is much more skilled and able to use it better and more frequently (being able to target something small and fast like a kunai).

 

[Saiyansnake]

I bet Kakashi is going to use Kamui to send a clone of Naruto to the other dimension. Then Naruto and his clone will perform a simultaneous attack on Tobi. He can't be intangible is both places at the same time

 

[YUYUXFAN]

Kabuto used them to show Tobi how to do Edo Tensei.

Thanks for the info, dang i really liked the guy from the Aburame clan.

 

[Qu4zi]

Nice explination, I already figured it out, but the real question is if this means Tobi is Obito.
I feel kinda like he is, but lets hope kishi doesn't do something that make NO sense

it showed that tobi s/t is kamui counter

 

[Hashirama Senju 48]

Thank you for making that clearer, bro. +rep

 

[Minato x]

I had this hypothesis since a long time and yesterday I saw I was right.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Many of us are wondering how did this that happen.... !

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Well Kakashi is right Tobi uses just one jutsu !

Every time Tobi uses his jutsu to send his body or parts of his body to this dimesion so he is phasing every attack

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When he whants to attacks he leaves that dimesion and comes back to attack !

Tobi can appear where he whants because that dimesion is paraler to the real dimension ( he can move in that dimesion to appear somewhere in the battlefield )

Here kakashi says he send his kunai with kamui and when tobi phased to the other dimension he got hit in that dimesion !!

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Tobi jutsu is to phase out himself and objects... so he can change dimensions... his traveling in different dimesions !!

Conclusion: Naruto Rasengan hit Tobi in the other dimension !

Note: Kamui and Tobi jutsu both are phasing out objects , attacks , people in the same paraler dimension the jutsu are linked by the same paraler dimension !

I agree with this theory 100 %

 

[vUmbrav]

Does everyone really not understand? It seemed to me that this information was pretty obviously explained. It's not a theory it's factual information. For crying out loud all you have to do is read it.

 

[PrakatusPrime]

Lol I was gonna make this exact same thread but too lazy xD

 

[CudaJoe]

It was self explanitory because everyone read it and saw pictures of it happening. OP's just trying to explain it to the blind because they couldnt see the manga. (sarcasm)

Kind of like learning calculus for the first time. d/dx of X^9 = 9X^8, d/dx of 9X^8 = 72X^7, d/dx of 72X^7 = 504X^6, d/dx of 504X^6 = 3024X^5, whats the next one? You can figure it out.

 

[shottastarinc99]

so does that means tobi has kamui but he completely mastered it?

 

[NarutoKage2]

good job. ignore the butt hurt noobs who say it was obvious, if it had been there wud have been
dozens of threads made before yours. great theory, and this points to tobi being obito, man how many of us will be proven wrong if that happens lol.

 

[olumiday]

They should try the next attack as a Bijuu dama (tailed beast bomb).

And where would Kakashi get enough chakra to use kamui on a Bijuu dama?
Do you want him to die in the process? lol

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

It is rather obvious how the attack hit Tobi. The real question to me is how the teleporting and phasing are one jutsu. Is the phasing just an incomplete usage of the teleporting? Since we know that Tobi teleports through the pocket dimension. So if he partially teleported himself it would be quicker and still leave his "spirit" in the original dimension. Yea Kishi better have a very detailed explanation through Kakashi next week.

How about Minato..Do you think when he hits Tobi with Rasengan,,he do it in real dimension or Tobi's dimension..If Minato do it in real dimension it means that Minato is the fastest shinobi..and what about Konan attack that broken the Tobi's mask??

i still dont get how tobi's jutsu warps away his body. Its like a reverse of kamui. Kamui warps away objects at a distance. Tobi warps away objects that he touches. I still dont get it. And when he dissapears, its like he vanishes into his eye.

it showed that tobi s/t is kamui counter

And where would Kakashi get enough chakra to use kamui on a Bijuu dama?
Do you want him to die in the process? lol

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This page along with what flowbayz and Qu4zi said in the 3rd and 4th quote above respectively. Honestly I would quote every single person in this thread if I could cause I thought there is another very vital piece of information no one has wrote yet.

As the OP (+rep btw, it was very obvious but who cares you still put it well and don't listen to everyone else, it was well worth the post, especially when compared to the other 99.9% of horrible posts here on NB) said Kamui and Tobi's S/T Jutsu phase out objects and are linked by the same dimension (probably due to the Sharingan).

Now what I find a little silly is how many people are talking about Kakashi is going to die soon using Kamui blah blah blah he is almost out of chakra blah blah blah, Well everyone is forgetting the Vital piece I aforementioned above which is:

NOW that Tobi knows their plan on how they damaged him, what do you think he is going to do? I bet you would someone know's what it is if they read those 2 pages I linked up top. Tobi is just going to CANCEL Kakashi's Kamui everytime. There is in fact no reason he can't do that unless I missed something?

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(top left panel/first panel when reading it)

So Tobi clearly has figured out their immediate plan and I don't think Kakashi is stupid enough to just keep wasting Kamui as I am sure he has max 1-3 left, so he is going to have to come up with some extremely strategic/distractive plan (think ending of A-Team Movie ) to even think of finishing Tobi off because I am sure Tobi (really Kishi) is going to make Tobi even less offensive then he already is at this point and just waste time until the Jubi is up and kicking while focusing strictly on Kakashi and his Kamui.

To Q of the Sharingan: Think of it as an advanced Kumai, much more advanced. Picture Kakashi being able to not only phase things out but phase things back in and at will. That is what Tobi is doing. He is phasing whichever part(s) of his body (and most likely 100% every time he uses it. his face/mask is phased, WHICH by the way is where I feel Tobi will end up screwing up and dying/losing if Kakashi comes up with the right plan, etc..) away and phasing right back, so in essence it is ONE JUTSU but it is being used 2+ (or even more) times.


P.S. - I think Kakashi is going to do the SAME THING Minato did. There plan will be some form of one of them, most likely Naruto, getting grabbed on purpose (from a far distance which will also be on purpose as well) to be Warped and that is when Kakashi uses EITHER Kumai to warp the TBB in OR what would be way more effective (at least to me) is the Konan approach:

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But this time he won't be faster than Naruto and/or Kakashi (who of course are both much faster than Konan).

 

[uzumakiclanrules]

does anyone know how exactly Tobi can be SEEN in the real world when his body is in the other dimension??

I mean,When kakashi uses kamui on anything, dont they like disappear completely? Tobi still manages to retain a penetrable shadow of his form when he is supposed to be in another dimension...just...how???