[Spoilers] Mangekyou Sharingan Eye Swap to Produce EMS?

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I have been wondering about this for a while. Back in chapter 386, Itachi revelaed few things about MS, particularily about Madara and his younger brother Izuna.:shrug::shrug:

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Both Madara and Izuna awakened their MS, and later took the leadership of their clan.:cool:

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Unfortuantely, Madara started losing his sight because of the over use of MS:sy:, due to the user gaining its immense power with the cost of their own light.

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And so what Madara did was take his brother's eyes....
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We later knew that after Madara transplated Izuna's eyes, he had what is known as Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan!

And Tobi confirmed that he "as a Madara imposter", was given the eyes by his younger brother who donated them willingly to protect the honor of their beloved Uchiha clan.

But what if Madara and Izuna just swapped eyes, meaning each transplanted the other's eye, wouldn't that be the same?

I mean even if Madara's eyes don't see the light anymore before being transplanted, Itachi had the same problem when he fought with Sasuke, but when Itachi's eyes were trannsplanted, Sasuke didn't really show any signs of visual problems +[obiviously the transplantation would've been pointless]

So Madara has Izuna's eyes and Izuna had Madara's eyes, is pretty much the same, and never proven otherwise... it was never implied that EMS cannot be a double operation

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What is your opinion on this? Can two people switch MS and get EMS instead? if not, is this a plot hole?:confused:

It might imply that Tobi= Izuna (because the nine tails recognizes Tobi as Madara after the Nine tails attack on Konoha 16 years ago) which makes some sense because the eyes were somewhat the same.:eek:
BTW this is not a Tobi ID thread, because I am just sharing my thoughts on the idea of the eye swap, :ice:
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No it wouldnt be the same
 

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madara did say his brother died but he could've of lied
 

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If they both took them out, how could they see? How would they know where to put the eye? xd

On a more serious note, I don't think so, one would have sight and the other would be blind.

Btw, these people in Naruto take out eyes like nothing. You see Shisui? He was smiling, he has balls of steel lol.
 

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If they both took them out, how could they see? How would they know where to put the eye? xd

On a more serious note, I don't think so, one would have sight and the other would be blind.

Btw, these people in Naruto take out eyes like nothing. You see Shisui? He was smiling, he has balls of steel lol.

lol that's true :p I don't think I can be smiling while scooping out my eyes or be so calm about it!

If you look back on Itachi vs. Sasuke fight, you csn see that Itachi was barely able to see Sasuke, but when the eyes were transplanted it was fine.
 
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If they both took them out, how could they see? How would they know where to put the eye? xd

On a more serious note, I don't think so, one would have sight and the other would be blind.

Btw, these people in Naruto take out eyes like nothing. You see Shisui? He was smiling, he has balls of steel lol.

yeah man none of them would have eyesight n also yeah they take out eyes like nothing lol....xd
 

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Kishi made it that way.
 

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lol that's true :p I don't think I can be smiling while scooping out my eyes or be so calm about it!

If you look back on Itachi vs. Sasuke fight, you csn see that Itachi was barely able to see Sasuke, but when the eyes were transplanted it was fine.

They transplanted eyes? When Itachi took Sasuke's you mean? I think they were in a genjutsu. Sorry if im not on the same page as you xd Correct me if im wrong.
 

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They transplanted eyes? When Itachi took Sasuke's you mean? I think they were in a genjutsu. Sorry if im not on the same page as you xd Correct me if im wrong.

No, that's not what I meant, when itachi fought sasuke, he was barely able to see him. I am not able to find that particular page because my internet connevtion is shitty. Anyhow, after Sasuke got his brother's eyes (he overused his eyes in the Kage summit and needed to get a transplant) he was able to see normally..
 

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madara had his blind-eyes + izuna MS eyes = that would be EMS
if they just switch their eyes then :
madara with izuna MS eyes / izuna with madara blind Ms eyes

you need four eyes to unlocking EMS
 

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No, that's not what I meant, when itachi fought sasuke, he was barely able to see him. I am not able to find that particular page because my internet connevtion is shitty. Anyhow, after Sasuke got his brother's eyes (he overused his eyes in the Kage summit and needed to get a transplant) he was able to see normally..

It's fine, I remember that part. Well yeah I know he was able to see normal since it's like a fusion thing with the eyes, they don't just switch them. Atleast I think not o_O
 

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madara had his blind-eyes + izuna MS eyes = that would be EMS
if they just switch their eyes then :
madara with izuna MS eyes / izuna with madara blind Ms eyes

you need four eyes to unlocking EMS

\But you don't have to necessarily be blind, like the case of Sasuke and Itachi. Sasuke had a blurred vision, but he wasnt blind.
 

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Cause madara is an ******* and stole his brothers eyes.
 

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Maybe they aren't as smart as you are.
 

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I always thought about this a lot to. I wondering why they couldn't just swap eyes and both have EMS, but then after looking into it for a bit I understand why. If you go look at one of the pages when Itachi is explaining the EMS to Sasuke during their fight, in one panel there is this monster looking thing that appears behind Itachi, with four eye sockets. Two where the normal placement of eyes are, and two above those. Only the bottom pair had eyes in them, which would represent Itachi's eyes.

The pair above those would be the pair you need to put in to gain EMS, in this case, it would be Sasuke's eyes. Unless all four sockets are filled, the user can't get EMS. That is why you cannot just swap eyes, each brother would still only have two eyes, and not be able to fill in the four sockets.

Edit: Here are the pages. One is of Madara with all four filled, and the other of Itachi.

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This is so simple, two pairs of MS creates one pair of EMS. You obviously couldn't circumvent all the costs of an ems by swapping eyes with your bro..
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I can't believe you people agreeing with this theory..
 
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