Why are you guys acting like this is something new?

Bboyinsayn

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Minato has already shown us how to defeat Tobi why is everyone acting like they finally learned how to hit him. Minato said "it comes down to speed, whiever strikes a split second earliar will win." So basically when your punch is right next to tobi's face your gonna have to have ANOTHER punch coming to hit tobis face before your first punch hits him. In order to do this you need intense speed and kakashi found out. Damn why is everyone tripping? This new chapter is just like the past of how Minato defeated tobi, just a different style, same rasengan same ideas it was just that kakashi kamui'd the rasengan and minato teleported to hin kunai.
 

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Because they managed to hit him without the use of Hiraishin, that's why.
 

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Really? That's because Kakashi found a way to hit Tobi
 

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Because minato is minato and team Naruto is team Naruto. That's why. They can't use the same techniques, so everbody needs to find his own way of defeating.
 

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Lol No! what Minato did and What kakashi did are two different things man, you're getting confused!
 

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Lol No! what Minato did and What kakashi did are two different things man, you're getting confused!

Exactly, this is how i saw it;
Kakashi teleports the rasengan to dimension. And tobi used that dimension to get untouchable, but it's the same dimension as Kakashi used to teleport the rasengan. And there the rasengan hit tobi on the place that he used the dimension to be untouchable.
 

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Because Tobi no longer has to be materialized to be hit. That's the difference.
 

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It wasnt speed that hit Tobi.
 

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konan also figured out a few things about tobi's jutsu and they were bit same as these
 

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Kakashi teleported rasengan to the physical body of Tobi. Not at all the same as Minato's method. Thats why the "tripping".
 

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Exactly, this is how i saw it;
Kakashi teleports the rasengan to dimension. And tobi used that dimension to get untouchable, but it's the same dimension as Kakashi used to teleport the rasengan. And there the rasengan hit tobi on the place that he used the dimension to be untouchable.

And now my next questions are:

1. Why do Kakashi and Tobi have access to the same dimension?

2. Are their Mangekyou Sharingans somehow linked?
 

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I agree to disagree. Each Battle when utilize his Space/Time Technique, Tobi has Solidified himself to capture the opponent. [1][2] He makes mistakes when "Slipping Through The Attack" (E.g not observing his surrounding such as when not paying attention to the FTG Kunia Minato utilize and/or Kamui when utilized by Kakashi). [3][4] He falls victim to this tactic every time.

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However, the Manga specially said "Kakashi... You Sent It Flying To The Other Dimension With Kamui." [5] "It" referring to Rasengan, as Tobi only thought Naruto cancel the technique. [Refer to Manga Chapter 596, Page 13-15]

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