Who is the better Taijutsu User? Sasuke or Rock Lee?

[Third Sage]

Funny fanboy, just accept the truth and don't go with the haters.

I'm not Lee's fan. But the fact is that Lee's superior to Sasuke in terms of taijutsu. He has beaten Sasuke in part one, are you denying it?

 

[SasukesSixPack]

I'm not Lee's fan. But the fact is that Lee is superior to Sasuke in terms of taijutsu. Lee has beaten Sasuke in part one, do yo deny it?

No. I don't remember him beating Sasuke, actually i think Sasuke beat him during the tournament.

 

[SilverSlick]

I'm not Lee's fan. But the fact is that Lee's superior to Sasuke in terms of taijutsu. He has beaten Sasuke in part one, are you denying it?

Yeah he denies it, he's a Sasuke fanboy. All he does is ride Sasuke's skin flute all day.

 

[SilverSlick]

No. I don't remember him beating Sasuke, actually i think Sasuke beat him during the tournament.

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[Exaar]

sasuke surpassed rock lee in taijutsu in part 1.
excluding 8 gates ...

He never surpassed him he just Copied Lee's moves/speed.

Also i'm guessing Lee's Taijutsu has greatly improved since Part 1.

Sasuke. Rock lee is fodder, don't even compare him to Sasuke. Sasuke would destroy him with 3 tomoe and both hands tied behind hes back.

I'd -rep for this bullshit if i could.

Enjoy -Rep.

 

[NBSax]

Lee drops his weights, Sasuke make his pants dirty.

This ^

 

[OWanime]

At this point it's Lee but without gates and sasuke's sharingan sasuke wins in part 1 xd

 

[Third Sage]

At this point it's Lee but without gates and sasuke's sharingan sasuke wins in part 1 xd

Are you ignorant or just stupid? I don't get it.

 

[Sasuke ninja way]

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[Frikid]

No, Lee stated that it took him many years to accomplish that speed while Sasuke only took a month, in otherwords, Sasuke is a fast learner not a better Taijutsu User.

that was part 1 and i havent really seen any taijutsu improvement from sasuke in part 2

Surpasses the imagination, never said it surpassed him, what we see from Sasuke in that fight is extreme speed equal to Lee's said so by Gai.

Rock Lee is a superior taijutsu fighter with or without gates in both part 1 and in part 2. His merit in skill is above Sasuke's as well as his physical character. Sasuke has admirable skill and a good physical character but it's inferior to Lee.

Just because Sasuke has the Sharingan doesn't make him a better taijutsu fighter than Lee, we've seen the occasion where that has been proven as the sharingan is only a tool of perception. Even if Sasuke were allowed the sharingan in a fight, pure taijutsu based, with no weapons, hidden tricks, or anything Sasuke would put up a fight but ultimately Lee would win because he is entirely Taijutsu orriented. The amount of training he devotes to taijutsu is 100% and his 100% (training wise) is greater than most people's. He has no other skills to practice or anything since he can't preform ninjutsu or taijutsu. Sasuke's training of any sense whether it be copying doesn't equal up to Lee's amount and if you can judge it for yourselves.

He never surpassed him he just Copied Lee's moves/speed.

Also i'm guessing Lee's Taijutsu has greatly improved since Part 1.
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Umm none of you got my point,

lee trains for years and achieves something which sasuke achieved in one month.

you people talk like sasuke was sitting on a couch and playing video games this whole three years, while lee was training day and night. >.>

Sasuke trains day and night with oro and others, to beat itachi..
He would have definitely improved his taijutsu and you can see he improved his chidori,and i think you people know why kakashi trained him only in taijutsu for one month, because to do chidori you need good speed and taijutsu.

Sasuke improved his chidori 10x better, he even have a sword on his back.To achieve this, he really needs to have a good training in taijutsu, you cannot battle with a sword if you suck at taijutsu .

Also what lee achieved in years = what sasuke achieved in one month, right?

Sasuke 3 year training >>> lee 3 years training. (as sasuke is a genius)

Also his sharingan allows him to copy all of lee's moves and even predict what he is gonna do next.

I agree lee must have improved alot in his training BUT it doesn't mean he can surpass sasuke.

Spoiler

in the recent kishi interview, there is a hint given that we will see a better K11 , maybe we could see a better lee , if that is the case, i might give it to lee, but until that day, its sasuke

 

[SEGA]

rock lee

 

[NBSax]

Umm none of you got my point,

lee trains for years and achieves something which sasuke achieved in one month.

you people talk like sasuke was sitting on a couch and playing video games this whole three years, while lee was training day and night. >.>

Sasuke trains day and night with oro and others, to beat itachi..
He would have definitely improved his taijutsu and you can see he improved his chidori,and i think you people know why kakashi trained him only in taijutsu for one month, because to do chidori you need good speed and taijutsu.

Sasuke improved his chidori 10x better, he even have a sword on his back.To achieve this, he really needs to have a good training in taijutsu, you cannot battle with a sword if you suck at taijutsu .

Also what lee achieved in years = what sasuke achieved in one month, right?

Sasuke 3 year training >>> lee 3 years training. (as sasuke is a genius)

Also his sharingan allows him to copy all of lee's moves and even predict what he is gonna do next.

I agree lee must have improved alot in his training BUT it doesn't mean he can surpass sasuke.

Spoiler

in the recent kishi interview, there is a hint given that we will see a better K11 , maybe we could see a better lee , if that is the case, i might give it to lee, but until that day, its sasuke

First, fast learner doesn't translate to better user. Sasuke can quickly learn taijutsu but Lee is still better at taijutsu. Ex. most of us quickly learn how to use computer, are we better computer user than a person who devoted himself to computer?

Second, argue with the databooks, Sasuke's Taijutsu is 3.5 while Lee is 5.

 

[Frikid]

First, fast learner doesn't translate to better user. Sasuke can quickly learn taijutsu but Lee is still better at taijutsu. Ex. most of us quickly learn how to use computer, are we better computer user than a person who devoted himself to computer?

Second, argue with the databooks, Sasuke's Taijutsu is 3.5 while Lee is 5.

You do not even realize how wrong your first statement is.

a fast learner is always better than a slow learner .

 

[NBSax]

You do not even realize how wrong your first statement is.

a fast learner is always better than a slow learner .

If they'll train at the same time yes, but at different timelines, no.

Better at learning not as a user. An early devotion is still better than fast learner.

Not all fast learner in this world can become an Einstein or Scientist.

 

[medal32]

Lee for sure

 

[Reborn]

Umm none of you got my point,

lee trains for years and achieves something which sasuke achieved in one month.

you people talk like sasuke was sitting on a couch and playing video games this whole three years, while lee was training day and night. >.>

Sasuke trains day and night with oro and others, to beat itachi..
He would have definitely improved his taijutsu and you can see he improved his chidori,and i think you people know why kakashi trained him only in taijutsu for one month, because to do chidori you need good speed and taijutsu.

Sasuke improved his chidori 10x better, he even have a sword on his back.To achieve this, he really needs to have a good training in taijutsu, you cannot battle with a sword if you suck at taijutsu .

Also what lee achieved in years = what sasuke achieved in one month, right?

Sasuke 3 year training >>> lee 3 years training. (as sasuke is a genius)

Also his sharingan allows him to copy all of lee's moves and even predict what he is gonna do next.

I agree lee must have improved alot in his training BUT it doesn't mean he can surpass sasuke.

Spoiler

in the recent kishi interview, there is a hint given that we will see a better K11 , maybe we could see a better lee , if that is the case, i might give it to lee, but until that day, its sasuke

You say yourself Sasuke was training for a month souly in taijutsu to bring up his skills in taijutsu, yet if you do an ultimate comparison between Lee and Sasuke from any angle, even that one month training didn't compare to the years of training that Lee has had. The reason is when Lee trains in in the one and only area he ever tains in, he gets much more out of it than Sasuke does. Sasuke worked souly on speed during that one month. His speed increased but we didn't see an finaminal increase in any power, stamina, or skill for that matter.

In that one month, Sasuke demonstrated a level of taijutsu profficiency that wasn't anything above what we've seen him do in say his fight against Orochimaru in the Forest of Death. We saw one aspect of his overall physical character increase. Lee continues to gets stronger in his physicla chararacter and skill. In that raw comparison you did, you saw Sasuke able to match speed in a month's worth of training when (1) based on his stats and in fights prior to Lee, he has been naturally swift and (2) Based on what we saw from the point of Gaara's fight and beyond until maybe his final fights with Naruto, he only trained to up his speed.

Basically what I'm saying is, you're comparison Sasukes training>Lee's training is flawed. Sasuke dedicated to one aspect for an entire month to increase one aspect, while Lee works in a more worldly fasion with his training to gradually obtain greater results overall instead of in one specific area. Not to mention the raw physical discipline for Lee to unlock the gates is something that wasn't coppied by Sasuke so easily. Counting the Inner Gates for use in a Taijutsu fight, releasing the gates is only an extension one's ability to push beyond physically set bounderies and unlock inner power. It's tapping into inner power and is in no way restricted as a kekkei genkai would be and it doesn't constitute as Non-taijutsu technique.

 

[Frikid]

If they'll train at the same time yes, but at different timelines, no.

Better at learning not as a user. An early devotion is still better than fast learner.

Not all fast learner in this world can become an Einstein or Scientist.

sasuke have fought more battle then lee, battles make him stronger in all three, taijutsu,ninjutsu and genjutsu.

the databook is too old to rely on,

sasuke is a genius , if you are trying to say lee is better in taijutsu, i disagree with you.

 

[Exaar]

Umm none of you got my point,

lee trains for years and achieves something which sasuke achieved in one month.

you people talk like sasuke was sitting on a couch and playing video games this whole three years, while lee was training day and night. >.>

Sasuke trains day and night with oro and others, to beat itachi..
He would have definitely improved his taijutsu and you can see he improved his chidori,and i think you people know why kakashi trained him only in taijutsu for one month, because to do chidori you need good speed and taijutsu.

Sasuke improved his chidori 10x better, he even have a sword on his back.To achieve this, he really needs to have a good training in taijutsu, you cannot battle with a sword if you suck at taijutsu .

Also what lee achieved in years = what sasuke achieved in one month, right?

Sasuke 3 year training >>> lee 3 years training. (as sasuke is a genius)

Also his sharingan allows him to copy all of lee's moves and even predict what he is gonna do next.

I agree lee must have improved alot in his training BUT it doesn't mean he can surpass sasuke.

Spoiler

in the recent kishi interview, there is a hint given that we will see a better K11 , maybe we could see a better lee , if that is the case, i might give it to lee, but until that day, its sasuke

While sasuke did it in farless time, It take alot of stamina for him to keep that Level of speed up, because it isn't natural to him unlike it is to Lee.

So if Part one sasuke (without curse) went up Against part one Lee, sasuke would tire out quicker than lee would.

Also while Lee Trains for 3years purely in Taijutsu, Sasuke has had to Train in Tai/Gen/Nin/Kenjutsu and mastering his sharingan.

Also the Databooks give Lee a 5 in Taijutsu, while sasuke only has a 3.5.

Sasuke hasn't seem to of done much training since he has left Oro or Gotten Ms/EMS.
I see no reason to up sasuke's Taijutsu to "5" from a current 3.5, and yes i'm aware that they're out of date. Still it's a big gap.

 

[NBSax]

sasuke have fought more battle then lee, battles make him stronger in all three, taijutsu,ninjutsu and genjutsu.

the databook is too old to rely on,

sasuke is a genius , if you are trying to say lee is better in taijutsu, i disagree with you.

Kakashi, Guy, Asuma and Kurenai fought more battle than Sasuke, does that make each of them stronger?

Sasuke fought spamming Ninjutsu/MS/EMS.

The databook is old but still, Lee is always ahead of Sasuke in Taijutsu.

Shikamaru is a genius too and smarter than Sasuke, does that make him stronger than Sasuke?

 

[garasandman]

surly lee.
because he has a great speed