Proof that Deva is stronger than Itachi

[Maunten]

If a path is pierced by totsuka does Nagato get drawn into the Genjutsu world forever?

 

[Bogard]

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[SasugayUchiha]

Do you know, there's a very interesting notion that Nagato didn't actively release himself from the jutsu in order to fool Jiraiya into thinking he had overcome Pain. It makes sense aswell, I think Blaze Release was the one who stated it. In any case, Gama Rinshō has been lauded as one of, if not the

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in the manga, it's not in the same league as any low level paralysis genjutsu which Itachi may possess.

Susano cannot reflect. It can stop an attack, but it cannot push it back. Do you think it can withstand a Chou Shinra Tensei?

KA is the strongest genjutsu.

 

[Maunten]

Do you know, there's a very interesting notion that Nagato didn't actively release himself from the jutsu in order to fool Jiraiya into thinking he had overcome Pain. It makes sense aswell, I think Blaze Release was the one who stated it. In any case, Gama Rinshō has been lauded as one of, if not the

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in the manga, it's not in the same league as any low level paralysis genjutsu which Itachi may possess.

Susano cannot reflect. It can stop an attack, but it cannot push it back. Do you think it can withstand a Chou Shinra Tensei?

Lol shoda, itachi can get straight up pulled out.

KA is the strongest genjutsu.

Not it's not....

 

[-S-]

@1st. Please tell me how Itachi is going to get his chakra into Nagato without making Eye contact with NAGATO

Naruto's chakra was to great for Nagato's control when he went into Beast Sage mode was it not??:flaw:


@2nd. The dead bodies have chakra running through their chakra network hence all of their organs work.....:flaw:




No, if Nagato uses Deva through one path does he use it through all the others?

No

Showing that they are separated networks.

Ah you see, now your mixing up the rinnegan's abilities with chakra.

They all have shared vision, so their networks ARE linked.

The rinnegan's path's are a completely different affair.

 

[OnPoint]

Why didn't Nagato turn to stone when Preta Path overdosed on Nature chakra? If genjutsu works by affecting one's mind, and nature chakra was unable to make the leap from Preta Path to Nagato, how is the chakra from Itachi (in order to cast the genjutsu) going to jump from Deva Path to Nagato? It can't.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

There is enough evidence written by Blaze Release to support that Nagato intentionally wanted his Paths to get caught in the Frog song. I can't seem to find it but it answers questions such as why chakra disruption should've broken from a genjutsu. I'll have to write my own.

 

[OnPoint]

KA is the strongest genjutsu.

Pain was caught by Gama Rinshō, an audio based genjutsu which has been lauded as is the most powerful genjutsu in the manga (With Kotoamatsukami being described as one of the most powerful visual techniques for those of you sensing a contradiction, evidence

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[SasugayUchiha]

Lol shoda, itachi can get straight up pulled out.




Not it's not....

Yes it is, what's better than KA?

 

[Maunten]

Ah you see, now your mixing up the rinnegan's abilities with chakra.

They all have shared vision, so their networks ARE linked.

The rinnegan's path's are a completely different affair.

Their shared vision stems from the fact that Nagato can see through all of them.

As they are all one conscience with a sort of poly-presence.

Yes it is, what's better than KA?

Gama rinsho....

 

[-S-]

Why didn't Nagato turn to stone when Preta Path overdosed on Nature chakra? If genjutsu works by affecting one's mind, and nature chakra was unable to make the leap from Preta Path to Nagato, how is the chakra from Itachi (in order to cast the genjutsu) going to jump from Deva Path to Nagato? It can't.

Because the demonic rods may not be able to channel senjutsu chakra.

Only human chakra.

 

[The 1 who knows]

so if gengetsu doesnt work?
how did itachi trap pain in genjetsu!?

 

[OnPoint]

Because the demonic rods may not be able to channel senjutsu chakra.

Only human chakra.

That's just clutching at straws...

 

[-S-]

Their shared vision stems from the fact that Nagato can see through all of them.

As they are all one conscience with a sort of poly-presence.



Gama rinsho....

So you're admitting the fact that they are all linked.

It doesn't matter if they all belong to Nagato's conscience, if they are one entity, they share chakra amongst each other. No?

 

[Maunten]

Because the demonic rods may not be able to channel senjutsu chakra.

Only human chakra.

Or the chakra can't get to Nagato?


It would just be a huge disadvantage if Nagato could become subject to Genjutsu being cast on any of his paths...

So you're admitting the fact that they are all linked.

It doesn't matter if they all belong to Nagato's conscience, if they are one entity, they share chakra amongst each other. No?

They are linked in the sense that they are all controlled by one being, not that their chakra is networks are one in the same.

 

[Lelouch.]

Do you know, there's a very interesting notion that Nagato didn't actively release himself from the jutsu in order to fool Jiraiya into thinking he had overcome Pain. It makes sense aswell, I think Blaze Release was the one who stated it. In any case, Gama Rinshō has been lauded as one of, if not the

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in the manga, it's not in the same league as any low level paralysis genjutsu which Itachi may possess.

Susano cannot reflect. It can stop an attack, but it cannot push it back. Do you think it can withstand a Chou Shinra Tensei?

Blaze Release didn't state anything since it's only your point of view, but the bodies where however caught in a Genjutsu. That this Genjutsu is supposed to be the strongest, doesn't proves in any way that Pain wouldn't be affected by a weaker version of a Genjutsu, does it? Sasuke, who has lesser skills with Genjutsus than Itachi, fully paralyzed a Genjutsu user and sensor like Shee is. So this page is actually not a prove for Pains resistance against the also powerful illusions Itachi can cause.

Susanoo is not deflecting anything, Kyuubi isn't also, but if Shinra Tenseis force isn't strong enough to push away a certain object, its force will consequently be turned against the user again. Of course a Chou Shinra Tensei will push Susanoo maybe away but I don't see a reason for using it since the interval will render Deva-Paths abilities useless for a while and Itachi will survive it anyway due to Susanoos protection.

 

[-S-]

That's just clutching at straws...

Because the demonic rods may not be able to channel senjutsu chakra.

Only human chakra.

Hence the 'may'.

 

[Dantee]

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@1st. Please tell me how Itachi is going to get his chakra into Nagato without making Eye contact with NAGATO

Naruto's chakra was to great for Nagato's control when he went into Beast Sage mode was it not??:flaw:


@2nd. The dead bodies have chakra running through their chakra network hence all of their organs work.....:flaw:




No, if Nagato uses Deva through one path does he use it through all the others?

No

Showing that they are separated networks.

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I don't know if you're in denial or retarted. Nagato see's through the Pein's eyes. All the bodies run on the same damn chakra flow. They are all connected.

How are you comparing tailed beast and sage mode to Nagato's chakra? This has nothing to do with the discussion anyway.

This is my last post since you fail to ever give adequate answers.

Dead bodies can't hear by themselves. They can't act by themselves, They can't ****ing see by themselves. Nagato is pumping his own damn chakra to control them so he would evidently be effected by genjutsu.

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[Maunten]

Blaze Release didn't state anything since it's only your point of view, but the bodies where however caught in a Genjutsu. That this Genjutsu is supposed to be the strongest, doesn't proves in any way that Pain wouldn't be affected by a weaker version of a Genjutsu, does it? Sasuke, who has lesser skills with Genjutsus than Itachi, fully paralyzed a Genjutsu user and sensor like Shee is. So this page is actually not a prove for Pains resistance against the also powerful illusions Itachi can cause.

Susanoo is not deflecting anything, Kyuubi isn't also, but if Shinra Tenseis force isn't strong enough to push away a certain object, its force will consequently be turned against the user again. Of course a Chou Shinra Tensei will push Susanoo maybe away but I don't see a reason for using it since the interval will render Deva-Paths abilities useless for a while and Itachi will survive it anyway due to Susanoos protection.

Nagato can manipulate force, he threw Naruto like a rag doll, he can pull Itachi of us susanoo.

 

[ulqui0rra]

ofc deva path is stronger +rep