Do you believe in God?

[Air]

Agnostic you can't prove either of them

 

[zombiejesus]

i cant believe this thread is still going who cares if there ever was a god he is dead or doesn't care he is an absentee father who doesn't pay child support

 

[Pavoneo]

I have no problem in you being atheist.

the problem arises when you say things about christianity without doing proper research and misquote the holy Books. you say that the Bible is fictional, you say that God has planned everything. God has given man a will to choose. man has been given the power to decide for his own. A man does evil when he gives in to the devil. It is not God's will. If you see then you will believe. I am a medical Doctor. After studying the systems in the human body, the millions of intermingling mechanisms only strengthened my faith. I cant prove to you or anyone that God exists or not.Its upto that person to SEE the existence of God.

I will quote a verse from the Holy Quran,

"And in your creation, and what He (God) scattered (throughout the Earth) of moving creatures, are signs for people who have faith with certainity"

Faith comes from heart. The Heart that "sees" can see God in his creations. and a few of the atheists say that humans are the same as animals. if animals dont have a faith, why do humans have faith? Have you ever talked to an animal? how can you tell that animals dont know about God's existence? prove it.


Now how do we know that there is a God, a Creator, whom we should worship... why should we not consider the theories of natural selection, or the big bang, or the concept of perpetual evolution as plausible evidence for the existence of the world.. it is because, none of these theories can deny the fact, that macro and micro systems are arranged, fixed, proportioned, measured, determined, limited, synchronized, given distinct characteristics and parameters that can not go beyond or exceed. there is something in control, no? can you deny the fact that we exist? if you agree, you will agree that we are subsisting, and being sustained through a unique balance of an environmental phenomenon, that we are not the author of, then someone big is, has to be, must be responsible for all of this... Do you think all this perfection evolved by chance? the same author and creator who has blessed every second of our lives, and put so much perfection and care into every aspect of his creation, will never abandon us. And as the future is bleak, we turn to him and him alone for hope, truth and divine justice.

Even if I'm an atheist, this is a wonderful post ._.

 

[zombiejesus]

Where are you getting these mistranslations? whatever hatist website you are getting these quotes from, isnt authentic. dont mistranslate. it hurts us if our Book is being made into something that it isnt.

some of these ayats are parts of bigger sentences, cut out to make a new meaning. e-g, the commands to not make friends with the Jews was given when Madina (a holy city) was attacked by the non-believers, and the Jews of Madina withdrew from their deal to protect the city from an outside attack with the Muslims . after this betrayal, that ayat was revealed. misquotes will take you nowhere. i can prove the rest of the ayats that you have quoted as fabrications as well. but that would be a waste of time because it wont change your beliefs. Islam is a religion of peace. And about the terrorist, you really dont know. Osama bin Laden? he was a puppet, someone who gave a good excuse for G Bush to win the presidential elections once again. your media is being controlled and manipilated to show you what needs to be shown you in order to brainwash you and mould you into tools for the illuminati. If you want to know what really is happening in the world, VM me. I will tell you personally because this is not the right place for that discussion.






This^

It proves my point. Some anti-Muslim websites that want to create misconceptions in your mind and make you hate Muslims misquote the Quran.

i am glad we amaericans are dumb and you are so smart i wish you could tell us what to do instead of our goverment then we could have peace aslong as we believe in what you are told to believe and dont make any refference to muhamad or show his image because he is so great and fictional

and i hate no religion i dislike all religion it teaches as much hate as it does love its a shield to protect the weak minded fools who can not think for them selves

 

[AP2k]

I WORSHIP SATAN I'M A SATANIST ALL HAIL LUCIFER PRAISE THE DEVIL :rag: ALL WORSHIP LUCIFER!! ​

Satanism is a very good religion (opposed to christianity). The whole religion is based of the need to be free, christians believe in god out of fear of going to hell. Satanists believe in "satan" by choice, not out of fear. The religion preaches individuality and choice, not "do this this and that or you or to hell". It's just misrepresented by the higher ups of other religions who don't want people to worship freedom.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

i am glad we amaericans are dumb and you are so smart i wish you could tell us what to do instead of our goverment then we could have peace aslong as we believe in what you are told to believe and dont make any refference to muhamad or show his image because he is so great and fictional

and i hate no religion i dislike all religion it teaches as much hate as it does love its a shield to protect the weak minded fools who can not think for them selves

There you go again insulting someone's religion. I can debate with you with every single point. as long as you dont cross the line and insult the figure who is ideal for us, I can provide you with answers to all your questions and misconceptions. but you dont seem worth it. If you disagree with someone, and want him to change, you dont go and say that 'you bit*h! I hate you gtfo!' that will make him hate you. many people hate homosexuals. and in that hate, they insult them, they beat them up, do social boycott etc. will that change them? no.they will get infuriated and hate you for it. even the by-standers will hate you. that is why if you want to discuss something, you do it after giving due respect to the other person, and not insult his views, but give your opinions as to why they are wrong. the impression that i get from your post is that, you are not worth it.U_U

Even if I'm an atheist, this is a wonderful post ._.

Thank you. :ice:

Satanism is a very good religion (opposed to christianity). The whole religion is based of the need to be free, christians believe in god out of fear of going to hell. Satanists believe in "satan" by choice, not out of fear. The religion preaches individuality and choice, not "do this this and that or you or to hell". It's just misrepresented by the higher ups of other religions who don't want people to worship freedom.

What does Satanism promote? inhumanity. it tells about no rules. choose to do whatever you want to do. All the evils in the world are due to Satan. And you want to become his follower? tell me. if you are a kid of 10 years age for example. someone who thinks that your mother or father should be killed, and he kills them in front of you, and you are helpless, you cant do anything about it. is that animal behaviour what you want? A sister of yours is walking in a street for example. A satanist chooses that he wants her.. rapes her. where does that lead you to? there are many people in the world who dont know who their father is? why? because their parents never married... all because of free choices to make. these rules that are placed upon us by our religion, help us keep ourselves pure. Sataism gets you into the dark arts, black magic, the roots of evil.. what resulted in the downfall of Babylon. God show his miracles... but if you wait for the miracle to save you, you might even become the victim of that miracle. Can you see the decendants of the pharoahs of egypt, who built the pyramids after gaining the power obtained from the Dark Arts? Where is Babylon who created their own paradise? how did such intellectual nations get to their downfall? have you ever wondered? evil always has a downfall. good always triumphs. keep that in mind. Satanism gives you worldly power for sometime. but in the later run, it leads to destruction. try and understand.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Random atheist joke: "Yeah, I'm sorta like a Christian. I believe every book I read. Harry Potter and I are going to enter the Hunger Games soon."

Random christian joke: "I agree, the galaxy came from nothing, but a rock. Seems legit."

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

your precious law from the god:

Sexism
Women’s placement and inferiority to men is made quite clear in the Bible. The discrimination even starts as early as the second account of creation where it explains woman was only created as a companion for man and only because Adam could not find a suitable partner in the other animals. Throughout the Bible they are constantly reminded that they are inferior to and came from man. In Genesis part of women’s punishment is that her “desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” Adam was only punished because he listened to his wife.

Slavery
The Bible never condemns slavery in ether the Old or New Testaments. It does however show its full support for slavery by giving specific rules on the proper way of beating and owning a slave along with the proper way for a slave to behave. There are even points in the Bible where it orders the capturing and enslavement of new slaves.

Rape
God and the Bible treat women as property of men and occasionally punishes men by having their wives taken away and raped just as a man today may have his car repossessed and auctioned off. God punishes David by giving his wives to his neighbor to be raped in broad daylight. Zechariah claims there will come a day when God will have all the women of Jerusalem raped. And Isaia shares a prophecy telling us that God is going to make the Babylonian men suffer by having their wives raped.

Polygamy
Polygamy is the practice or condition of having more than one spouse at one time. Bigamy is the act of marrying while one has a wife or husband still living, from whom no valid divorce has been effected. Both Polygamy and Bigamy are frowned upon in most cultures, especially in the Christian community, but the Bible teaches us it’s okay and does not speak against it.

Murder
Murder seems to be the punishment the Bible sees fit for pretty much anything that the Christian god finds inappropriate. The Bible also teaches that murdering these people will not make us murderers as the “blood will be on their own heads” and in some cases even tells us how to murder, such as stoning. We are told to kill anyone who does not do what God demands of us. We are also told to kill anyone who we even think is worshiping a god other than the god of Abraham and kill everyone who lives in the same town as that person.

Child Abuse
The Bible is full of support for child abuse. In Proverbs we are told to beat our children with a rod. The books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy tell parents to kill their children if they curse or disobey them. The Bible even has God claiming that he will have the flesh of children eaten if their parents disobey his word. Children are murdered left and right at the command of God throughout the Bible while making no exceptions for infants or the unborn children still inside their mothers’ wombs.

The Bible ... cornerstone of morality indeed

our holy book the Quran is the truth because its more reliable and its makes sense compared to the rest of the religions. if you do bad stuff you in life like rape and abuse you do face the consequences because we believe in heaven and hell and if you do good deeds you go to heaven or if you do bad deeds you go to hell.

 

[Pavoneo]

our holy book the Quran is the truth because its more reliable and its makes sense compared to the rest of the religions. if you do bad stuff you in life like rape and abuse you do face the consequences because we believe in heaven and hell and if you do good deeds you go to heaven or if you do bad deeds you go to hell.

Alright, let me ask you (or anyone reading this) a question..

This is the problem I have with religious people.

If a Religious person does a good deed & an Atheist does the same good deed, for arguements sake we'll say the religious person/atheist walked up to a random person on the street and gave them one hundred dollars. Who's the better person? The atheist.

Why? Think about it. The religious person is indirectly doing it for their own benefit. They're consciously aware that if they do random acts of kindness it'll increase their chance of getting into heaven. So, to get into heaven, the religious person will go around doing nice deeds.
So, think about it from the other perspective. Why did the Atheist give the random person money? For no other reason than pure happiness. They aren't trying to increase their chance of something happening to them, or to be forgiven for anything they did. Just. . Happiness.

Obviously this doesn't apply for every single time someone does something nice. Religious people do things just for happiness, and atheists sometimes do kind things for their own personal advantage over a person (e.g. "Owe me a favour" or to gain their trust etc. etc.) But I personally think that if a religious person and a non-religious person do the same thing, I view the non-religious person as superior to the religious person. Doubt anyone will read this but meow.

 

['Kurapika]

Alright, let me ask you (or anyone reading this) a question..

This is the problem I have with religious people.

If a Religious person does a good deed & an Atheist does the same good deed, for arguements sake we'll say the religious person/atheist walked up to a random person on the street and gave them one hundred dollars. Who's the better person? The atheist.

Why? Think about it. The religious person is indirectly doing it for their own benefit. They're consciously aware that if they do random acts of kindness it'll increase their chance of getting into heaven. So, to get into heaven, the religious person will go around doing nice deeds.
So, think about it from the other perspective. Why did the Atheist give the random person money? For no other reason than pure happiness. They aren't trying to increase their chance of something happening to them, or to be forgiven for anything they did. Just. . Happiness.

Obviously this doesn't apply for every single time someone does something nice. Religious people do things just for happiness, and atheists sometimes do kind things for their own personal advantage over a person (e.g. "Owe me a favour" or to gain their trust etc. etc.) But I personally think that if a religious person and a non-religious person do the same thing, I view the non-religious person as superior to the religious person. Doubt anyone will read this but meow.

Well, Imagine that that Atheist made a habit out of helping someone in need every time he'd receive his pay check, and years passed while he kept giving. Assuming at some point he becomes religious, let's say he becomes a Muslim. Islam will only require him to pay a small amount of money twice a year, usually less than $3 per family member. Would he quit his habit of sharing a fraction of his money with the needy just because his new religion doesn't require him too? Or would he not feel the same satisfaction he got from helping people just because he's being awarded for it this time? I myself doubt it.

It's simple human nature to want to help others, hence all the Muslims who don't even pay required Zakat, and all the Atheists who help the poor and wait for no reword.

 

[Roby]

Do you believe in god? Why?
Are you an agnostic? Why?
Are you an atheist? Why?

Edit: Everyone fails to explain WHY?!

I believe the reason WHY people fail to explain is simply the fear of being laughed at. I have my reasons to believe and they arent for others. Everyone should keep the reason for themselves. (All I can say is that I was in a very bad situation with my life and for the first time I started to pray since nothing else helped. Over time things began to go better etc)

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

Alright, let me ask you (or anyone reading this) a question..

This is the problem I have with religious people.

If a Religious person does a good deed & an Atheist does the same good deed, for arguements sake we'll say the religious person/atheist walked up to a random person on the street and gave them one hundred dollars. Who's the better person? The atheist.

Why? Think about it. The religious person is indirectly doing it for their own benefit. They're consciously aware that if they do random acts of kindness it'll increase their chance of getting into heaven. So, to get into heaven, the religious person will go around doing nice deeds.
So, think about it from the other perspective. Why did the Atheist give the random person money? For no other reason than pure happiness. They aren't trying to increase their chance of something happening to them, or to be forgiven for anything they did. Just. . Happiness.

Obviously this doesn't apply for every single time someone does something nice. Religious people do things just for happiness, and atheists sometimes do kind things for their own personal advantage over a person (e.g. "Owe me a favour" or to gain their trust etc. etc.) But I personally think that if a religious person and a non-religious person do the same thing, I view the non-religious person as superior to the religious person. Doubt anyone will read this but meow.

we believe that all atheists go to hell because they have no belief in God. the religious person is doing good deeds for themselves because that's the goal they have been told from their holy book to go down the right path instead of the wrong one. atheists doing good deeds would only make them happy but only god can judge you and the good deed would count for nothing.

 

[kekerot]

"luck is just an expression to hide god"

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

Dont mind the noobs on my side. :sy: lol.

people dont force anything on the atheists. like 'you will go to hell for this and that. explain with logic.' :ice:

 

[Stewie Griffin]

My belief is that religion and all its contents are manmade and therefor fictional

 

[squigles]

Do you believe in god? Why?

No, because there is no good reason for me to.

Are you an agnostic? Why?

No, because agnosticism is a position from ignorance, which I am not.

Are you an atheist? Why?

Yes, because I believe that secular morality leads to a much better society.


On a side note, religion in general is responsible for causing otherwise good people to do things they would never do if they weren't religious. Religion is bad because it's indoctrinated into people in a way that rejects any sort of questioning or change regarding the religious dogma. This is a dangerous thing for society when religious people tend to hold the highest offices in politics, because it keeps policies from changing for the betterment of society.

 

[Itachi Minato]

Alright, let me ask you (or anyone reading this) a question..

This is the problem I have with religious people.

If a Religious person does a good deed & an Atheist does the same good deed, for arguements sake we'll say the religious person/atheist walked up to a random person on the street and gave them one hundred dollars. Who's the better person? The atheist.

Why? Think about it. The religious person is indirectly doing it for their own benefit. They're consciously aware that if they do random acts of kindness it'll increase their chance of getting into heaven. So, to get into heaven, the religious person will go around doing nice deeds.
So, think about it from the other perspective. Why did the Atheist give the random person money? For no other reason than pure happiness. They aren't trying to increase their chance of something happening to them, or to be forgiven for anything they did. Just. . Happiness.

Obviously this doesn't apply for every single time someone does something nice. Religious people do things just for happiness, and atheists sometimes do kind things for their own personal advantage over a person (e.g. "Owe me a favour" or to gain their trust etc. etc.) But I personally think that if a religious person and a non-religious person do the same thing, I view the non-religious person as superior to the religious person. Doubt anyone will read this but meow.

no i disagree most of the time when i do a nice thing god is the last thing on my mind as i normally pity then or something its only rarely that i do it cos god will be happy with me but then again thats just me

 

[bpkiddo]

I'm an Agnostic, because I find it the most logical explanation; no one can be sure whether there's a supernatural power, God, etc. To be honest, all the atheists base are such because of the Science, but if you give it a thought, to some point the Science is as much a believe as religion is. All facts and theories are based on our rationality and our perception, therefore you can't be sure whether it really is universal or even whether it's true.
On the other hand, religions base their ideology on pure faith without even trying to give a proper proof.
At the end, neither can be really a trusted to prove God's existence. So you simply can't be sure whether the Supreme Being or Power exists or not.

Science is just explaining whats happening.... not really why or even how.... so that doesnt even prove that there is a god or that there isnt a god...... but iknow there must be something that we don't know about that created us... and ithink DMT and shrooms is a shortcut to what ithink happens after you die :scorps:

 

[Scooby Doo]

Are these threads allowed at all? Ayway until its closed here is my opinion: I'm an atheist because there is no proof of god existing. Based on the so called "evidences" you could say that werewolves or vampires (could ) exist too. No proof that they dont . Besides there is no need for god to solve the great questions of life and the Universe's secrets . So the most i can accept is that Nature is God. (But not in a sense as religions describe god) But there always will be people who believe in god and they have the right to do so. They are sure that they're right and I'm sure I'm right. :shrug: Though after his/her own death everybody will find out

 

[GreenV]

I believe in God, I'm religious. But I never offend anyone with different religion or atheists. I just hate non-believers who offend believers, and vice-versa. Religious people with no morality are also useless, imo what's most important is good deeds.

Science is just explaining whats happening.... not really why or even how.... so that doesnt even prove that there is a god or that there isnt a god...... but iknow there must be something that we don't know about that created us... and ithink DMT and shrooms is a shortcut to what ithink happens after you die :scorps:

This. And science was also based on faith.