Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi

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Sasuke does not have tsukuyomi. He has amaterasu and enton. Im disappointed in sipeak he usually is on the right side of things when I read his posts.

In amaterasu case, its only right that you can cast and stop your jutsu, Tobi stops and casts his space time ninjutsu,no? As for when Tobi says Itachi planted all his techniques into sasuke it can be safe to say that is speculation, I mean he did only see amaterasu and that was set as a defense mechanism.

As many have stated the databook says you need both ama and tsukuyomi but I however have read that every mangekyo sharingan has a unique set of abilities. Everyone assumes that madara has both but he has never shown them. Tobi hasn't, shisui has no account of it either. Enton is sasuke ability. ITACHI DOES NOT HAVE THIS ABILITY. Enton gives the flames shape, last time I checked sasuke was the only one to such. How can some of you say its advanced amaterasu? Wouldn't he do with the same eye as Itachi did as ispeak shown? Ths because enton is a jutsu of its own!!! You need to unlock abilities in both mangekyo to unlock susanoo that's it period. What's so hard to understand that.

Some of you are going to post the databook and naruto wiki but if that's so true why doesn't enton appear under itachi's arsenal? You see how they are both contradicting? Point is Itachi doesn't have enton sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi. "But he used it against be Bee" no he didn't just normal genjutsu just what he used against shee at that the kage summit. Sure the panel went black n white but it never stated it. "Danzo said he has it, he used it on danzo" oh yeah? Well I don't remember in the anime or manga that the screen or panel went black n white since that's the signature thing for tsukuyomi. See how that too is contradicting?
Thank you! This is what all of us pro-blaze release people were trying to say! Maybe if they read this comment they'll understand.....
 

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if the argument is we haven't seen it written or drawn in the manga, its also arguable we haven't seen anyone say sasuke doesn't have it. sasuke has had the MS for a short period of time he hasn't had time to master it besides in battle and he had to stick to using the genjutsu he knows how to use and just shot black flames everywhere....genjutsu is a lot more complicated to learn and use in battle than ninjutsu....
 

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if the argument is we haven't seen it written or drawn in the manga, its also arguable we haven't seen anyone say sasuke doesn't have it. sasuke has had the MS for a short period of time he hasn't had time to master it besides in battle and he had to stick to using the genjutsu he knows how to use and just shot black flames everywhere....genjutsu is a lot more complicated to learn and use in battle than ninjutsu....
That's an incredibly weak response
 

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I'm pretty sure he has it as it was stated you need it to use susanoo. He just sucks with it compared to itachi. The only thing i dont understand is why they havent ever explicitly stated that he was using it in the manga. For instance, when he was fighting kabuto with itachi itachi used tsukyomi, then it shows sasuke using "sharingan genjutsu"
Dafaq?

Puts a little doubt in my mind.
 
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See..? At least you can back yourself up.. But that still doesn't explain why he doesn't use it... I'm certain that even his Tsukuyomi is stronger than regular sharingan genjutsu..
& now your CERTAIN that his Tsukuyomi..
Suddenly you were certain he has Tsukuyomi???

Isnt the title of your thread "Sasuke doesnt have Tsukuyomi" ?
 

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Tsukuyomi always creates an inverted gray-scale in the manga.

Sasuke using Tsukuyomi. Top left panel:

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Itachi using Tsukuyomi:

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The databook proves that you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o. And the manga page that I showed you could be the proof you were looking for. ;)

Please go back and read our posts on the we already talked about this and how the data book isnt reliable
 

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Sasuke does not have tsukuyomi. He has amaterasu and enton. Im disappointed in sipeak he usually is on the right side of things when I read his posts.

In amaterasu case, its only right that you can cast and stop your jutsu, Tobi stops and casts his space time ninjutsu,no? As for when Tobi says Itachi planted all his techniques into sasuke it can be safe to say that is speculation, I mean he did only see amaterasu and that was set as a defense mechanism.

As many have stated the databook says you need both ama and tsukuyomi but I however have read that every mangekyo sharingan has a unique set of abilities. Everyone assumes that madara has both but he has never shown them. Tobi hasn't, shisui has no account of it either. Enton is sasuke ability. ITACHI DOES NOT HAVE THIS ABILITY. Enton gives the flames shape, last time I checked sasuke was the only one to such. How can some of you say its advanced amaterasu? Wouldn't he do it with the same eye as Itachi did as ispeak shown? Thats because enton is a jutsu of its own!!! You need to unlock abilities in both mangekyo to unlock susanoo that's it period. What's so hard to understand that.

Some of you are going to post the databook and naruto wiki but if that's so true why doesn't enton appear under itachi's arsenal? You see how they are both contradicting? Point is Itachi doesn't have enton sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi. "But he used it against be Bee" no he didn't just normal genjutsu just what he used against shee at that the kage summit. Sure the panel went black n white but it never stated it. "Danzo said he has it, he used it on danzo" oh yeah? Well I don't remember in the anime or manga that the screen or panel went black n white since that's the signature thing for tsukuyomi. See how that too is contradicting?
I have proven that you use Blaze Release to put out the flames... you cant argue with it, its right there in the Manga.
Do you know what a Jutsu is? Blaze Release isn't a jutsu, it is a nature type.

1. Itachi used Blaze Release
2. Blaze Release is a nature type, not Jutsu. MS unlocks Jutsu's.

Noone has countered it.
 
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Ok first off, i would like to say this is my first thread. I'm more of a lurker than a poster, but i decided to go ahead and make a thread.
I've seen a lot of threads and posts saying Sasuke would beat certain people with Tsukuyomi. Well i'd like to try to show you my theory on why he doesn't have it. I would also like you to note, i'm not a Sasuke fanboy. In fact i hate him more than anyone on the series.

1. The way Sasuke obtained his Mangekyou was from itachi's blood...right?
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The blood only goes in his left eye, which is the amaterasu, which itachi purposely put there in case he ever saw Madara's sharingan. It was a defense mechanism that itachi had and gave to sasuke.
2. Let me show you something cool.
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Look at his eye tense up when he uses Enton. His other ability is to control the flames.
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As Shi states it right here
3. And if he had tsukuyomi, why didnt he use it here?
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By the way, Danzo never said he "has" it. Now idk if Danzo meant his genjutsu is nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukuyomi, or Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is nothing compared to Itachi's.
Why did both of his eyes activate? Tsukuyomi is only 1 eye.
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I have one more thing to say. If he has amaterasu in his left, and the power to control it in his right, that would leave no room for Tsukuyomi... Soooooo yea... Post what you guys think.
No No and No did he get his mangekyo from Itachi ? What manga do you read ? Do you even know how the mangekyo is awakened ?
He has Tsukiyomi i cannot even imagine why you would think of such a thing
 

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Why are people using the databook for, it isn't constantly changing its fact to that of the manga; therefore it cannot be relied on.

If we use to the manga and databook to determine who is the strongest Hokage is the manga makes implications to Hashirama, while the databook states it's Hiruzen. The question then becomes which one has the greatest validity. Is it the manga, which can at any period change the aspects of the story to fit Kishimoto's view or the databook which contains all facts and feats prior to it's release and nothing after. Which one would you use to justify your points?
 
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for all of you guys saying you need tsukyiomi for susanoo no your stupid..
madara doesnt have it but he has susanoo
you need 2 ms techniques one in each eye and then your granted with the third "susanoo"
get your shit straight
sasuke doesnt have it he has blaze release and amaterasu not tsukiomi
 

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Honestly i kinda feel like he doesn't. I personally however always believed that one eye holds a genjutsu effect while the other holds a more physical effect. But this is probably false seeing as shisui's eye's both looked like they only had kotoamatsukami so im not sure what to believe anymore till kishi brings out some more.
 
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