Do you believe in God?

[ackeem1992]

You seem to be suggesting that evolution refers only to the very first creation of life.[/B] I'll meet you on the grounds that currently there isn't a considerable amount known about the first life but evolution is so much more than that.

We see the effects of evolution every day. We are constantly searching for new antibacterial drugs because of resistance caused by the development of the bacteria they target.

bold: well no you are mistaken

no we do not see any effects of evolution that Darwin and modern day Darwinites perpetuates. what you have just describe is adaptation, evolution claims that living creatures evolve over millions of years through a process called natural selection, a fish turning into mammal, then to apes then to humans this concept has no evidence and go against science itself, there are 3 effects of mutation to an organism gene pool, either it gets sick, stays the same or die it does not change at all. do you see evolution taking place today? no and you never will. The fossil evidence just shows new organism popping out of no where there are no transitioning fossils to support evolution claim thus far and even if a transitioning fossil did come up it still wouldn't prove anything because it could just be an organism that looked like a dog and a cat not necessarily proving that the dog evolved into a cat.

 

[Sanzen]

how is this still open? Religion threads are banned.

 

[ackeem1992]

So then if life can not create it self is the supreme creator not ALIVE? If he or she is than who created the creator. You see your theory, because that's what it is. Has this really huge gap in it. At some point in time there had to be a beginning of something. I do have to agree with you on one point though. Science is not always right. It can sometimes get it wrong. As is the case with some of the laws of physics, if life can not be created or destroyed how than does it start or end. Or is no one actually alive at all??

but you see a supreme creator wouldn't be physically alive, thus it wouldn't have to abide by the laws of our physics. yes i believe we are alive simply because of consciousness.

 

[Sasuke ninja way]

how is this still open? Religion threads are banned.

Is that part of the constitution.

 

[mikem579]

but you see a supreme creator wouldn't be physically alive, thus it wouldn't have to abide by the laws of our physics. yes i believe we are alive simply because of consciousness.

Life is life weather it be physical or meta-physical. Each requires matter and consciousness. Unless your trying to say that the supreme creator is not alive?

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

I would just like to ask everybody a few questions. Do you know the odds that our planet somehow formed in the perfect spot with the perfect materials to sustain life today? Do you know the odds that mutations occurred in certain organisms at certain times in certain ways to end up the way we are today? Do you know the odds that these mutations would differentiate in such a way to create the diversity of life today? There is a chance that all the air in the room you are in right now would accumulate in one corner of the room leaving a vacuum in the rest. This is highly improbable but still has a higher chance of happening than the odds in my previous questions. This is why I believe in a higher being who created an intelligent design. Who said that this design had to be perfect? or easy for those abiding in it? Just because we have no scientific proof of something existing doesn't mean we have proof of it not existing. The odds are that there is something greater than us. I don't know what it is exactly but I am confident in my relationship with the Christian God. What do I have to lose?

Edit: To people wondering what created the creater. What created the first mass and energy in the universe? If you believe in the findings and theories in science of the beginning of our universe then you believe that some things where just there and have always been.

To the people wondering how evolution plays into the way the Bible explains how God created our world. It is said in the Bible that a day to God is much longer to us. The 7 "days" that God created Earth could have been millions of years in our sense of time.

 

[ackeem1992]

I would just like to ask everybody a few questions. Do you know the odds that our planet somehow formed in the perfect spot with the perfect materials to sustain life today? Do you know the odds that mutations occurred in certain organisms at certain times in certain ways to end up the way we are today? Do you know the odds that these mutations would differentiate in such a way to create the diversity of life today? There is a chance that all the air in the room you are in right now would accumulate in one corner of the room leaving a vacuum in the rest. This is highly improbable but still has a higher chance of happening than the odds in my previous questions. This is why I believe in a higher being who created an intelligent design. Who said that this design had to be perfect? or easy for those abiding in it? Just because we have no scientific proof of something existing doesn't mean we have proof of it not existing. The odds are that there is something greater than us. I don't know what it is exactly but I am confident in my relationship with the Christian God. What do I have to lose?

now this is a logical thinking guy +reps

 

[Iruka]

bold: well no you are mistaken

no we do not see any effects of evolution that Darwin and modern day Darwinites perpetuates. what you have just describe is adaptation, evolution claims that living creatures evolve over millions of years through a process called natural selection, a fish turning into mammal, then to apes then to humans this concept has no evidence and go against science itself, there are 3 effects of mutation to an organism gene pool, either it gets sick, stays the same or die it does not change at all. do you see evolution taking place today? no and you never will. The fossil evidence just shows new organism popping out of no where there are no transitioning fossils to support evolution claim thus far and even if a transitioning fossil did come up it still wouldn't prove anything because it could just be an organism that looked like a dog and a cat not necessarily proving that the dog evolved into a cat.

Adaptation is an outcome of natural selection which is an evolutionary process. The resistance to antibiotics only takes a few generations. This would be microevolution as it is a small change within a population over time. Macroevolution can be thought of as the result of much microevolution over a long period of time.

 

[AnimeIsPerfection]

I am christian and believe in God. I have experienced Gods glory for myself. To make a long story short, I was at the brink of death and God, (it couldn't have been anything else) saved me. The reason I don't go into detail is because it is personal. I have incredibly strong feelings for and about God. Something that can extract such powerful emotions cannot be something that isn't real.

(If you want the full story, your going to have to PM me.)

Many other people on this thread have already explained why and how God exists.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

I haven't seen this whole thread but from what I have seen I am proud that it can still be open. So many people calmly giving there opinions and not being ridiculed for it. This is what we need in the world.

 

[Sasuke ninja way]

+rep man. i am muslim too

Thanks bro.

 

[Hyubasa]

Simple
Why do I believe in God?

Then how did I get here?
God made me of course

where do people go when they die?
To heaven if they have faith in him.

 

[Pavoneo]

To all of you asking to atheists "Well, how did the first piece of energy or mass come from?" Or "Well, what caused life?" as an atheist, I can say that we don't have an answer for that.

Why? Well, think about it. As humans first came about, we didn't know much. We didn't understand the environment around us. But as time went on, we slowly grasped the concept of things happening around us. We came up with the "laws of physics" and studies of the earth to further enhance our understanding of the world. Further along the human timeline, we discovered things on a smaller level such as atoms and cells in which we could study to understand how the body works and why some other things happened.

What I'm trying to get across is that what we don't know today, we'll have an understanding of tomorrow.

Sure, we may not know what caused life, or how the big bang happened.. But maybe, just maybe.. Some time in the not so distant (or the very distant) future, we will have an answer for these questions.

Not to be rude but at least we're looking for the answers instead of just assuming the higher power knew what he was doing and we'll trust him. :|

 

[ackeem1992]

Adaptation is an outcome of natural selection which is an evolutionary process. The resistance to antibiotics only takes a few generations. This would be microevolution as it is a small change within a population over time. Macroevolution can be thought of as the result of much microevolution over a long period of time.

micro evolution results in different variations in organism, just like there are different variations of dogs, cats such as color and breed. this still does not account for macroevoluton in the least we having been breeding different viriations of a specific specie for thousands of years now have they change no, macro-evolution is a total difficult ball game and have no evidence to stand on only clues and speculation.

 

[Phillip69]

I have Proof that God is Real
Lets round it up.
1st who created the universe..tell me about the big bang created it? then who created the big bang
2nd how the whole existence of living things began. I know we came from small living blocks called atoms then who created atoms did it came out just right there?
3rd I am a Christian. Even Others believe in God even Muslims they call theirs Allah. (sorry if im mistaken). If you believe that science created all these things like the universe? then tell me how did the universe began. Now even scientist cant explain these

 

['Toxic]

To all of you asking to atheists "Well, how did the first piece of energy or mass come from?" Or "Well, what caused life?" as an atheist, I can say that we don't have an answer for that.

Why? Well, think about it. As humans first came about, we didn't know much. We didn't understand the environment around us. But as time went on, we slowly grasped the concept of things happening around us. We came up with the "laws of physics" and studies of the earth to further enhance our understanding of the world. Further along the human timeline, we discovered things on a smaller level such as atoms and cells in which we could study to understand how the body works and why some other things happened.

What I'm trying to get across is that what we don't know today, we'll have an understanding of tomorrow.

Sure, we may not know what caused life, or how the big bang happened.. But maybe, just maybe.. Some time in the not so distant (or the very distant) future, we will have an answer for these questions.

Not to be rude but at least we're looking for the answers instead of just assuming the higher power knew what he was doing and we'll trust him. :|

I'm an agnostic and to be honest, no one truly knows how we were created. Thye only have theories, neither religious or non believers know so either party shouldn't argue about it :ice:

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[ackeem1992]

I have Proof that God is Real
Lets round it up.
1st who created the universe..tell me about the big bang created it? then who created the big bang
2nd how the whole existence of living things began. I know we came from small living blocks called atoms then who created atoms did it came out just right there?
3rd I am a Christian. Even Others believe in God even Muslims they call theirs Allah. (sorry if im mistaken). If you believe that science created all these things like the universe? then tell me how did the universe began. Now even scientist cant explain these

did you make an account just to post in this thread lol xd anyway epic first post

 

[The Thinker]

Yes cuz he done a LOT for me nd my family nd im proud of IT !

 

[Cursed Prince]

I believe in God the simple fact that THIS.THE WORLD didn't happen by chance.The bigbang theory is idiotic.The laugh at me for believing in god but you believe something small created all of this? And if evolution is, why have we stopped evolving. See what You guys don't know is that most of the atheist attempts to explain evolution has been disproven

 

[Iruka]

micro evolution results in different variations in organism, just like there are different variations of dogs, cats such as color and breed. this still does not account for macroevoluton in the least we having been breeding different viriations of a specific specie for thousands of years now have they change no, macro-evolution is a total difficult ball game and have no evidence to stand on only clues and speculation.

I think our disagreement comes from our differing views of what evolution is.

I believe micro and macro evolution to be the same process only over vastly different time spans and different results. You seem to believe there is a difference between the actual processes of micro and macro evolution. Really there is no definite way to settle this. You did make some good points though and at the end of the day you're welcome to your own opinion.

I have to go finish off some course work so I will have to leave the debate here. I think Pavoneo has already summed it up nicely.

To all of you asking to atheists "Well, how did the first piece of energy or mass come from?" Or "Well, what caused life?" as an atheist, I can say that we don't have an answer for that.

Why? Well, think about it. As humans first came about, we didn't know much. We didn't understand the environment around us. But as time went on, we slowly grasped the concept of things happening around us. We came up with the "laws of physics" and studies of the earth to further enhance our understanding of the world. Further along the human timeline, we discovered things on a smaller level such as atoms and cells in which we could study to understand how the body works and why some other things happened.

What I'm trying to get across is that what we don't know today, we'll have an understanding of tomorrow.

Sure, we may not know what caused life, or how the big bang happened.. But maybe, just maybe.. Some time in the not so distant (or the very distant) future, we will have an answer for these questions.

Not to be rude but at least we're looking for the answers instead of just assuming the higher power knew what he was doing and we'll trust him. :|

Take care guys.