Why can't sasuke beat pain???

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I mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

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1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose o_O I agree that the rinegan is stronger than the sharingan but if that's ur argument is about eyes then sasuke would have a better chance of beating Pain than naruto cuz last time I check the rinegan is way stronger than regular eyes -.- so ya I'm sure he can beat the 6 path of pain :)
1. The Preta Path's ability allows it to equally distribute and counter the flow of chakra (and hence, chakra-based attacks) throughout its body. Amaterasu is chakra-based; you can't use it if you're out of chakra. So even if Preta Path was hit by an Amaterasu, it could simply be absorbed quickly.

2. The shared vision does not guarantee that they will all be affected by one of them getting hit by a genjutsu. The only reason Jiraiya locked three paths into a genjutsu at once was because he isolated them together and used a sound-based genjutsu, which ALL THREE could hear. The nature of the Six Paths of Pain technique has the user sending chakra signals to rods implanted in the Paths' bodies; just because Sasuke disrupts the flow of one Path does not mean he disrupts the flow of the other 5. The other 5 Paths would be unaffected.

3. Shinra Tensei outmatches any Susano'o arrows. Even if one Path was taken out, they can be revived. Sasuke's Susano'o can't simply let off arrows at an unimaginable speed—they take time to form and fire. 5 seconds is hardly enough time to launch more than one arrow.

4. Kirin can be absorbed by Preta Path. It also requires next-to-perfect conditions to utilize; it would be very difficult to form those conditions, especially if Shinra Tensei is being thrown around, dispersing clouds.

You are also forgetting some of Pain's abilities.

Asura Path: A constant barrage of explosives has proven to be very difficult to dodge. They can also home in on targets. These can prove to be quite the adversary, or even distraction if necessary.

Naraka Path: This Path can revive the other Paths. With 5 Paths guarding this one, it would be very difficult to defeat it, even with a technique like Kirin.

Animal Path: Sasuke has no counter against the multiplying Dog summon. The chameleon may also prove useful.

Human Path: If it catches Sasuke one time, the fight is over, via the Soul Removal technique.

Preta Path: Chakra absorption. That is advantageous in nearly every situation involving Ninjutsu.

Deva Path: Shinra Tensei, Bansho Tenin, skilled Taijutsu, and, most importantly, Chibaku Tensei. Sasuke has no counter against Chibaku Tensei; he can't transform into an Eight-Tailed Jinchuuriki form and force his way out.

The Six Paths would take this fight 10 times out of 10, I think.

Just my thoughts. =)
 

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This is my alt, my main gets unbanned in an hour but:

Susano'o: Either gets blasted away by Shinra Tensei ( Shinra Tensei roflstomped 3 boss summons at once ) or gets absorbed by Preta Path, since Susano'o is pure chakra.

Amaterasu: Absorbed by Preta Path, even if Sasuke can manage to hit one of them, don't think Preta won't be able to absorb the flames before they do any lethal damage.

Sharingan Genjutsu: Sasuke hasn't been shown to be able to use Tsukiyomi yet, so we'll stick with Sharingan Genjutsu. Even if the eyes are all linked, Genjutsu can't effect multiple chakra networks through mirrors, if thats your logic. Its like ancient mythology with Medusa, you can look at her eyes through a mirror and nothing will happen, same logic applies for the connected eyes, don't give me this multiple-genjutsu bullshit.

It really is quite simple, if the pain's all work in unison and attack together, Sasuke stands no chance. Is he going to take on 3 boss summons, Preta Path, Shinra Tensei, etc without getting roflstomped.

His Susano'o is rendered useless as soon as Preta gets a hold of it. If Deva Path was playing to kill without caring about the terrain, he could just fly into the air and BOOM.
Super Shinra Tensei and Sasuke is just a pancake on the ground.

Stop holding onto your fanboyism, Sasuke can't beat all pains at once. No character thus far has been able to beat the 6 paths without plot-no-jutsu or any intelligence on his abilities.
 

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1. The Preta Path's ability allows it to equally distribute and counter the flow of chakra (and hence, chakra-based attacks) throughout its body. Amaterasu is chakra-based; you can't use it if you're out of chakra. So even if Preta Path was hit by an Amaterasu, it could simply be absorbed quickly.

2. The shared vision does not guarantee that they will all be affected by one of them getting hit by a genjutsu. The only reason Jiraiya locked three paths into a genjutsu at once was because he isolated them together and used a sound-based genjutsu, which ALL THREE could hear. The nature of the Six Paths of Pain technique has the user sending chakra signals to rods implanted in the Paths' bodies; just because Sasuke disrupts the flow of one Path does not mean he disrupts the flow of the other 5. The other 5 Paths would be unaffected.

3. Shinra Tensei outmatches any Susano'o arrows. Even if one Path was taken out, they can be revived. Sasuke's Susano'o can't simply let off arrows at an unimaginable speed—they take time to form and fire. 5 seconds is hardly enough time to launch more than one arrow.

4. Kirin can be absorbed by Preta Path. It also requires next-to-perfect conditions to utilize; it would be very difficult to form those conditions, especially if Shinra Tensei is being thrown around, dispersing clouds.

You are also forgetting some of Pain's abilities.

Asura Path: A constant barrage of explosives has proven to be very difficult to dodge. They can also home in on targets. These can prove to be quite the adversary, or even distraction if necessary.

Naraka Path: This Path can revive the other Paths. With 5 Paths guarding this one, it would be very difficult to defeat it, even with a technique like Kirin.

Animal Path: Sasuke has no counter against the multiplying Dog summon. The chameleon may also prove useful.

Human Path: If it catches Sasuke one time, the fight is over, via the Soul Removal technique.

Preta Path: Chakra absorption. That is advantageous in nearly every situation involving Ninjutsu.

Deva Path: Shinra Tensei, Bansho Tenin, skilled Taijutsu, and, most importantly, Chibaku Tensei. Sasuke has no counter against Chibaku Tensei; he can't transform into an Eight-Tailed Jinchuuriki form and force his way out.

The Six Paths would take this fight 10 times out of 10, I think.

Just my thoughts. =)
could not have said it better...
 

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have you ever seen how Edo Nagato pushed away Amaterasu...it had no effect on him...besides Rennigan is an ascention to the Sharingan...you are way far off
Plus, Kirin, was once-in-a-life shot...CAN NOT be used again ever. Pain will win this.
WOW man. you made three points and all of them wrong at some level.
1. Nagato was damaged, pretty bad, but it was itachi's amaterasu which i proved in my previous post that it's superior in strength to sasukes.
2. NEVER was it stated, EVER that Rinnegan is an ascended form of sharingan. Speculations people.
3. Not once in a lifetime, once in a battle maybe :D
 

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u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS
lolz, credit for awakening EMS :sy:, all he did was ask Tobi to implant itachi's eyes....and there you go EMS Sasuke :shrug:
easiest upgrade that he could ever had xd

but the funny thing is EMS doesn't have extra techs only that you won't lose sight....but still chakra drain is there. while rinnegan techs are much more powerful and versatile.

Susuke might be able to prolong the fight but end result will be the same.
Pain standing over sasuke's dead body....(then orochimaru can do so many evil things with that young body:D)
 
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For ppl who bring up Preta path so how is he goin to save everyone from Amaterasu? He is one man plus he can't react fast enough to see the flames
 

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WOW man. you made three points and all of them wrong at some level.
1. Nagato was damaged, pretty bad, but it was itachi's amaterasu which i proved in my previous post that it's superior in strength to sasukes.
2. NEVER was it stated, EVER that Rinnegan is an ascended form of sharingan. Speculations people.
3. Not once in a lifetime, once in a battle maybe :D
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? im not sure about Kirin, but been stated by Zetsu that its once-in-a-life shot...sasuke can NOT tame lightning...he did cuz of Oro's chakra, its debatable,though.

Plus,how come you don't know that Rennigan is an ascension to the EMS???
i suggest u go back and read the manga when Madara was summoned...Kabuto said so .
 

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Any Sasuke will be soloed by pain....
w/o the knowledge that J-man and Kakashi analyzed Sasuke will be dead in less than 5 mins.....
Give Sasuke his TAKA and they buy him more minute b4 destruction...
 

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If Amaterasu gets absorb it'll probably keep burning inside of him that's why when Itachi cast Amaterasu on nagato he used shinra tensei to repealed it and it still did some damage
 

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I mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

Reasons:

1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose o_O I agree that the rinegan is stronger than the sharingan but if that's ur argument is about eyes then sasuke would have a better chance of beating Pain than naruto cuz last time I check the rinegan is way stronger than regular eyes -.- so ya I'm sure he can beat the 6 path of pain :)
EMS may beat pain.

But if one's under a genjustu the rest are to is not true cause if it was j man would of beat them when he killed the one with the pony tail or when he beat the 2.

Deva path can smash suasnoo with a metor not madara's size cause that would kil them too. And he can counter amaterasu. And perhaps even pull sasuke outta suasnoo.

And the dog summon would be difficult cause it will multiple with every attack.

All this being said sasuke still has a very good chance of beating pain. Ive heard that MS sasuke cant which makes since but EMS? Naaa he'll probably win.

But nagato will take sasukes shoes off his feet and eat his lunch(**** him up)
 

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STFU GUYS nagato got raped by sage mode naruto... and sasuke is stronger than sage mode naruto... stop being nagato fanboys... sasuke will obliterate the six paths and nagato too... nagato is crap even jiraiya almost beat him
 

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STFU GUYS nagato got raped by sage mode naruto... and sasuke is stronger than sage mode naruto... stop being nagato fanboys... sasuke will obliterate the six paths and nagato too... nagato is crap even jiraiya almost beat him
Wel idk about nagato I think nagato is just to must and jiraya never fought nagato he only fought the 6pop
 

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He CAN win, but he likely would not. Sasuke's Tsukiyomi is nothing like Itachi's, nowhere on the same level. He is not an adept genjutsu user, Nor does he outfight Pain in Genjutsu, Taijutsu, or Ninjutsu. Pain arguably wins in all of them and MAYBE ties in Ninjutsu or Genjutsu. Pain also wins in the summoning department. The vision may be linked, but they operate separately. The only reason the Frog Song caught all three was because it was an auditory paralysis type, meaning he couldn't use hand seals to correct the chakra flow. Also, Sasuke1025 Don't create a thread if you aren't willing to accept opinions.
 

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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? im not sure about Kirin, but been stated by Zetsu that its once-in-a-life shot...sasuke can NOT tame lightning...he did cuz of Oro's chakra, its debatable,though.

Plus,how come you don't know that Rennigan is an ascension to the EMS???
i suggest u go back and read the manga when Madara was summoned...Kabuto said so .
I know what he said. He said he awakened rinnegan shortly. B4 his death. It's never stated or mentioned by anyone that it evolved from sharing an :). And yeas, he. An recreate the conditions for Kirin. It's not a once in a lifetime thing. Its relatively weak though. Idk why it gets so much praise
 
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