TobisPawn
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Introduction
Its been made pretty clear that Hashirama used Kurama against Madara during their fight at VOTE. Its also likely that Mito was present during the fight, but that's debatable. So for those of you that are doubtful about whether Hashirama used Kurama against Madara or not, read this thread. If you're going to disagree, at least use manga evidence instead of sprouting your opinion as fact without any proof to back it up. Now let's see the proof that suggests that Hashirama used Kurama against Madara.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Its been made pretty clear that Hashirama used Kurama against Madara during their fight at VOTE. Its also likely that Mito was present during the fight, but that's debatable. So for those of you that are doubtful about whether Hashirama used Kurama against Madara or not, read this thread. If you're going to disagree, at least use manga evidence instead of sprouting your opinion as fact without any proof to back it up. Now let's see the proof that suggests that Hashirama used Kurama against Madara.
- First off, its been made pretty clear that Hashirama was able to control Bijuus, and not only just suppress their chakra.You must be registered for see images"He was able to bend Bijuu to his own will."You must be registered for see images"During their fight, Hashirama gained control of the Nine-Tails."Conclusion: Hashirama was able to control Bijuus.
-- - Its also been proven that controlling Kurama with a Sharingan isn't permanent, and that it has some sort of time limit.You must be registered for see images"If he really is Madara, then I doubt he can summon the nine-tails for very long."
If its worth anything, the way Minato worded his sentence implies that their must be a better way of controlling Kurama. Or else he would have had no need to say "If he really is Madara" at the start of the sentence. And the only other known way to control Bijuus is through Mokuton, so this implies that Hashirama had better control of the Bijuus when compared to Madara (just my 2 cents).Conclusion: Madara's control over Kurama had a time limit, and Hashirama's control was possibly better than Madara's.
-- - The rest of the evidence implies that Hashirama didn't just suppress Kurama, but he also gained control of Kurama and used him against Madara. Its also suggested that Mito was there to aid Hashirama.You must be registered for see images
"During their fight, Hashirama gained control of the Nine-Tails"
From here we can come to the conclusion that Hashirama then used Kurama against Madara, because there would be no point in gaining control of Kurama and then not doing anything with him.
"During their fight...in order to better aid him, Mito-sama sealed it inside her own body."
All of this suggests that not only did Hashirama use Kurama against Madara, but Mito was there to further aid Hashirama in his fight.You must be registered for see images
This panel shows Hashirama talking to Kurama after defeating Madara (he'd have no time to casually talk to Kurama whilst fighting Madara). And its still on the battlefield, suggested by the Mokuton surrounding Hashirama. And judging by the words Hashirama used, Mito was there, ready to seal Kurama in her. What does this mean? Hashirama gained control of Kurama, used him against Madara, and then Mito (who was present) sealed Kurama within her.Conclusion: Hashirama used Kurama against Madara, and Mito, who was possibly present and already aiding Hashirama, then sealed Kurama within her after the fight.
Conclusion
What we get from this is that Hashirama was able to control Bijuus and he did just that against Madara, who's control on Kurama had a time-limit to it. We also get the notion that Mito was possibly present during the entire battle (aiding Hashirama) and she then sealed Kurama in her on the battlefield and after the fight. The Mito part is more speculation than the rest of the thread though (which is pretty much certain). Feel free to disagree and using manga evidence in doing so.
By the way, I'm not downplaying Hashirama's victory, and I still agree that Hashirama > EMS Madara. I'm just pointing out some things that are probably/possibly true about the fight. And this is also just my opinion. My bad if I came off as making it seem certain.
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