is it possible that tobi was actually a former anbu or anbu root member (evidence)

[Uchiha Leader]

well tobi could be a former root member because of his knowledge of the vast knowledge of the world and even konoha barrier, when you think about it the village was just forming when madara(real madara) was around they just founded the village, hashirama was only responsible of making the houses of konoha with his wood style but not that much of the village security and police and anbu, and basically he didn't help their goverment and protection.
you have to remember that the village was just founded and the clans probably had issue's to their society at first for power.

When tobirama came into office that's when the village was supported by security and anbu then came in and everything to secure the village and village's infrastructure and organisational system.

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If this is true that tobirama is really the one who secured the village then he had something to do with the barrier codes and the goverment that means tobi(not real madara) had to be inside the village at that time in order to get the codes.If zetsu was there he would have been easily detected by the barrier so tobi had to be a member of the village anbu to know this particular password to get in or could have been in danzo root, that is the only way tobi could enter the village.

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basically madara left the village before tobirama was hokage and tobirama made all the security and goverment for konoha and the anbu also so tobirama created the barrier so tobi had to be in the village at tobirama time or in danzo root so madara would not have known the barrier code so tobi got the code from being a member from within konoha.

this is just a theory

honestly to me tobi and danzo share the same ideals and look close in similar age so tobi was probably as old as danzo or close and when danzo made anbu root he shared his info with his members and this gave knowledge about the whole world and answers to some individuals but knew they would be to dangerous,If you remember the uchiha were suppose to take part of their goverment and also control the military so it could be likely that a uchiha was in the anbu before or even in danzo anbu since they are actually good on assignments to sneak in like kakashi because of his unique sharingan and to keep close in power.Also tobirama seems to be the hokage with all the knowledge since he basically made the first intel group(anbu) and knew how to create a formula for edo tensai which orochimaru keeps praising him for and also this could tell why danzo knows the sage of six path's ability to control bijuu and why tobi could get space time if he has knowledge all around the world so tobi would just need to leave the anbu but he would still know the knowledge he gained including the sage of six path's real story on their adventure from collecting peices all over the shinobi world and this could explain how tobirama knew how to get the knowledge to make space time and edo tensai.

 

[questin1]

sounds legit

 

[Uchiha Leader]

sounds legit

thanks

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Tobi is Kagami, the ANBU member of Team Tobirama!!!

 

[Jonesy161]

I don't think Tobi dates back to the 2nd Hokage. Remember, he had no idea how Edo Tensei worked. If he did live back then, learning ET would have been an advantage in his plans so the 2nd Hokage would have been a target of his.

Then Orochimaru was a member of the Leaf and had a huge role in the Anbu. Once against, Orochimaru would have been a target for Tobi to gain knowledge on ET if he wasn't around with the 2nd.

Also, he would have known the secrets about Danzou as well, especially Shisui's eyes. Danzou would have been a 3rd target for him to attain Shisui's eye for the most powerful eye genjutsu.

The likeliness that Tobi was a member of the Anbu or Root is pretty minimal in my opinion.


Furthermore, Madara said the worst possible plan for ET is to summon a being capable of using ET themselves since they can break the link. Madara broke that link and kept himself alive, meaning he knows how to use ET. That means Tobi appeared shortly before Madara initially died as he had no idea that even Madara himself had the ability to use ET.

 

[SilverSlick]

Maybe

 

[Uchiha Leader]

I don't think Tobi dates back to the 2nd Hokage. Remember, he had no idea how Edo Tensei worked. If he did live back then, learning ET would have been an advantage in his plans so the 2nd Hokage would have been a target of his.

Then Orochimaru was a member of the Leaf and had a huge role in the Anbu. Once against, Orochimaru would have been a target for Tobi to gain knowledge on ET if he wasn't around with the 2nd.

Also, he would have known the secrets about Danzou as well, especially Shisui's eyes. Danzou would have been a 3rd target for him to attain Shisui's eye for the most powerful eye genjutsu.

The likeliness that Tobi was a member of the Anbu or Root is pretty minimal in my opinion.

he doesn't have to date back when the second hokage was alive it could be in any time the anbu was formed and you can not take tobirama like that easily like that in his own village where he has an assistant and guards there, how can tobi sneak in so quietly in the barrier if tobirama invented the security and madara left before tobirama was hokage

 

[Third Sage]

It's possible, even tho I still think Tobi's Izuna.

 

[rollin]

he could but he knows a shitload of things like when a jinchuuriki is being born is when the seal is weakest and everything about the sage of the six paths

 

[Hipster Madara]

it's possible...

 

[Uchiha Leader]

It's possible, even tho I still think Tobi's Izuna.

tobi could be anyone so it may be possible but who knows

he could but he knows a shitload of things like when a jinchuuriki is being born is when the seal is weakest and everything about the sage of the six paths

this could have been info gathered from experiments or just data that the anbu collected on their journey's and that's why info could be dangerous like danzo said because he knows so much he is a threat to the village

 

[gordo1]

Did you know that there's a sticky for this.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

Did you know that there's a sticky for this.

nope

 

[Joon]

Seems possible, however, I agree to disagree. Eventually, your theory is a Tobi Identiy Thread which points to Kagami Uchiha. Also, next time, provide Manga links instead of Anime and Its not supported fully on evidence, but claims. @Jonesy161 Tobi or other such as witnesses or from rumors knew of Edo Tensei, however, the mechanics such as seals, release, etc. were not known to anyone besides the User. That is why Tobi wanted to know everything about Edo Tensei.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

Seems possible, however, I agree to disagree. Eventually, your theory is a Tobi Identiy Thread which points to Kagami Uchiha. Also, next time, provide Manga links instead of Anime and Its not supported fully on evidence, but claims. @Jonesy161 Tobi or other such as witnesses or from rumors knew of Edo Tensei, however, the mechanics such as seals, release, etc. were not known to anyone besides the User. That is why Tobi wanted to know everything about Edo Tensei.

i not saying he is kagami i didn't know kagami was in the anbu but just wanted to say tobi does not know the barrier code from the 1st hokage time and madara didn't give it to him,and i was trying to show pics it in color that's why but okay thanks

 

[~MC117~]

I think its possible

 

[Wakoo]

no its not

 

[Myogen]

It's possible. Maybe he's this guy seen with Danzo and Orochimaru:

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[girya]

well tobi could be a former root member because of his knowledge of the vast knowledge of the world and even konoha barrier, when you think about it the village was just forming when madara(real madara) was around they just founded the village, hashirama was only responsible of making the houses of konoha with his wood style but not that much of the village security and police and anbu, and basically he didn't help their goverment and protection.
you have to remember that the village was just founded and the clans probably had issue's to their society at first for power.

When tobirama came into office that's when the village was supported by security and anbu then came in and everything to secure the village and village's infrastructure and organisational system.

You must be registered for see images

If this is true that tobirama is really the one who secured the village then he had something to do with the barrier codes and the goverment that means tobi(not real madara) had to be inside the village at that time in order to get the codes.If zetsu was there he would have been easily detected by the barrier so tobi had to be a member of the village anbu to know this particular password to get in or could have been in danzo root, that is the only way tobi could enter the village.

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basically madara left the village before tobirama was hokage and tobirama made all the security and goverment for konoha and the anbu also so tobirama created the barrier so tobi had to be in the village at tobirama time or in danzo root so madara would not have known the barrier code so tobi got the code from being a member from within konoha.

this is just a theory

honestly to me tobi and danzo share the same ideals and look close in similar age so tobi was probably as old as danzo or close and when danzo made anbu root he shared his info with his members and this gave knowledge about the whole world and answers to some individuals but knew they would be to dangerous,If you remember the uchiha were suppose to take part of their goverment and also control the military so it could be likely that a uchiha was in the anbu before or even in danzo anbu since they are actually good on assignments to sneak in like kakashi because of his unique sharingan and to keep close in power.Also tobirama seems to be the hokage with all the knowledge since he basically made the first intel group(anbu) and knew how to create a formula for edo tensai which orochimaru keeps praising him for and also this could tell why danzo knows the sage of six path's ability to control bijuu and why tobi could get space time if he has knowledge all around the world so tobi would just need to leave the anbu but he would still know the knowledge he gained including the sage of six path's real story on their adventure from collecting peices all over the shinobi world and this could explain how tobirama knew how to get the knowledge to make space time and edo tensai.

I still think danzo being Tobi is still possible. We are all assuming him to be dead. But in the manga he kills himself and then Tobi carries his body out. this is possible with an advanced clone jutsu. Even if danzo is not tobi; tobi still can be working with danzo to manipulate sasuke so that his rage might unlock new eye powers that tobi is interested in. I feel that like "madara and izuna"; "itachi and sasuke" combined eyes can reach very high powers "rinnegan" and this what is tobi is after. oro was after the same power.it makes sense tobi to be coming from root... because he says he has no name. Sai had similar thought process before joining team 7. Thats how root functions. so even if you disagree with possibility that danzo may be alive or may be infact be tobi, i still support you because in fact it adds up to my theory as well indirectly. :ice:

This what danzo has done in this manga:
1. Made itachi kill the clan; in return enraging sasuke towards Itachi. [ manipulate sasuke's hatred towards itachi]
2. for some reason letting sasuke live after massacare. i mean he could have killed him if he wanted to when he was young
3. Made nagato summon Gedo by making hanzo kill yahiko.[Rinnegan]
4. in five kage summit try using shishui's eye to bring unity among shinobi... what changed between nagato incident and this?? supposedly when he meet yahiko and nagato; he was afraid their efforts can bring about peace between countries.

obviously tobi can be anybody; and this is just theory and well can be false. The biggest loop whole in this is tht kakashi and itachi could have made out that is danzo using sharingan and there has to be some unknown jutsu that kishi needs to pull off. Any comments are welcomed U_U