The REAL Facts that Disprove the Obito Theory

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In light of the recent thread about failed information on Tobi not being Obito I have created a list of facts that COMPLETELY disprove the theory that Tobi could be Obito. I have also made a list that suggest the information is inconsistent with Obito being Tobi, but still don't completely disprove. I will add more as more information is revealed. Also post other facts that I may have missed and I will add them to the list.


Undeniable Facts
1. Tobi has been revealed to be an old man. Obito is Kakashi's age. Kakashi is not an old man. Therefore Obito is not an old man. So Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Tobi fought with the fourth Hokage Minato just a few years after Obito supposedly died during Kyuubi attack. Obito was still a child during that part of history while Tobi was an adult, this also goes hand in hand with #1.

3. Tobi claims to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato as a child and that it was originally "his" (referring to Tobi). Nagato was born many years before Obito was born. So Obito could not have given Nagato the Rinnegan.

Facts that don't Completely Disprove the Theory
1. Obito was crushed by a rock and presumed dead, so Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Obito had just awakened his Sharingan and was still in the process of training to become a great ninja yet he was able to go toe-to-toe with his own sensei Minato in only a couple of years.

3. Tobi controlled the Kyuubi with his Sharingan. Tobi also knew about the requirements necessary to release a Bijuu from its host, including when is the best time to do so. Obito could not have obtained all of this information in such a short time. Especially considering his Sharingan eye was crushed and the other one gone, so he could not have read the Uchiha tablet.

4. Tobi controlled the fourth Mizukage Yagura through genjutsu. This is an inconsistency with timeline and talent.
 
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You forgot that Tobi controlled Yagura.
But yes, no more tobi theories T_T
 

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yet another post that belongs in the Tobi ID discussions threads.

I don't think anyone legit believes Obito is Tobi.... I think they are just bored and want to troll.

Next are you going to counter that Tobi is the ramen guy theory?
 

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I remember ages ago i used to think it was Obito, how naive was i.
 

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yet another post that belongs in the Tobi ID discussions threads.

I don't think anyone legit believes Obito is Tobi.... I think they are just bored and want to troll.

Next are you going to counter that Tobi is the ramen guy theory?

This thread is for reference purposes only. I am not disproving every theory nor is this a theory. This thread has nothing to do with who I think Tobi is but just a list of facts, nothing more nothing less
 

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In light of the recent thread about failed information on Tobi not being Obito I have created a list of facts that COMPLETELY disprove the theory that Tobi could be Obito. I have also made a list that suggest the information is inconsistent with Obito being Tobi, but still don't completely disprove. I will add more as more information is revealed. Also post other facts that I may have missed and I will add them to the list.


Undeniable Facts
1. Tobi has been revealed to be an old man. Obito is Kakashi's age. Kakashi is not an old man. Therefore Obito is not an old man. So Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Tobi fought with the fourth Hokage Minato just a few years after Obito supposedly died during Kyuubi attack. Obito was still a child during that part of history while Tobi was an adult, this also goes hand in hand with #1.

3. Tobi claims to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato as a child and that it was originally "his" (referring to Tobi). Nagato was born many years before Obito was born. So Obito could not have given Nagato the Rinnegan.

Facts that don't Completely Disprove the Theory
1. Tobi was crushed by a rock and presumed dead, so Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Obito had just awakened his Sharingan and was still in the process of training to become a great ninja yet he was able to go toe-to-toe with his own sensei Minato in only a couple of years.

3. Tobi controlled the Kyuubi with his Sharingan. Tobi also knew about the requirements necessary to release a Bijuu from its host, including when is the best time to do so. Obito could not have obtained all of this information in such a short time. Especially considering his Sharingan eye was crushed and the other one gone, so he could not have read the Uchiha tablet.

You might want to go back and Proof-read...Good points though...
 

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Anything is possible with tobi.
 

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In light of the recent thread about failed .

Facts that don't Completely Disprove the Theory
1. Tobi was crushed by a rock and presumed dead, so Obito cannot be Tobi.
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:sy::sy::flaw::flaw:

edit it dude
 

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yea people need to stop with the whole tobi is obito, hes clearly not.
 

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In light of the recent thread about failed information on Tobi not being Obito I have created a list of facts that COMPLETELY disprove the theory that Tobi could be Obito. I have also made a list that suggest the information is inconsistent with Obito being Tobi, but still don't completely disprove. I will add more as more information is revealed. Also post other facts that I may have missed and I will add them to the list.


Undeniable Facts
1. Tobi has been revealed to be an old man. Obito is Kakashi's age. Kakashi is not an old man. Therefore Obito is not an old man. So Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Tobi fought with the fourth Hokage Minato just a few years after Obito supposedly died during Kyuubi attack. Obito was still a child during that part of history while Tobi was an adult, this also goes hand in hand with #1.

3. Tobi claims to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato as a child and that it was originally "his" (referring to Tobi). Nagato was born many years before Obito was born. So Obito could not have given Nagato the Rinnegan.

Facts that don't Completely Disprove the Theory
1. Obito was crushed by a rock and presumed dead, so Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Obito had just awakened his Sharingan and was still in the process of training to become a great ninja yet he was able to go toe-to-toe with his own sensei Minato in only a couple of years.

3. Tobi controlled the Kyuubi with his Sharingan. Tobi also knew about the requirements necessary to release a Bijuu from its host, including when is the best time to do so. Obito could not have obtained all of this information in such a short time. Especially considering his Sharingan eye was crushed and the other one gone, so he could not have read the Uchiha tablet.

4. Tobi controlled the fourth Mizukage Yagura through genjutsu. This is an inconsistency with timeline and talent.

the why did he say to kakashi" you dont remember faces"
 

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People thought Danzo was Tobi much way and look what happened to that.

Your acting like your worried about them LOL.
 

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In light of the recent thread about failed information on Tobi not being Obito I have created a list of facts that COMPLETELY disprove the theory that Tobi could be Obito. I have also made a list that suggest the information is inconsistent with Obito being Tobi, but still don't completely disprove. I will add more as more information is revealed. Also post other facts that I may have missed and I will add them to the list.


Undeniable Facts
1. Tobi has been revealed to be an old man. Obito is Kakashi's age. Kakashi is not an old man. Therefore Obito is not an old man. So Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Tobi fought with the fourth Hokage Minato just a few years after Obito supposedly died during Kyuubi attack. Obito was still a child during that part of history while Tobi was an adult, this also goes hand in hand with #1.

3. Tobi claims to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato as a child and that it was originally "his" (referring to Tobi). Nagato was born many years before Obito was born. So Obito could not have given Nagato the Rinnegan.

Facts that don't Completely Disprove the Theory
1. Obito was crushed by a rock and presumed dead, so Obito cannot be Tobi.

2. Obito had just awakened his Sharingan and was still in the process of training to become a great ninja yet he was able to go toe-to-toe with his own sensei Minato in only a couple of years.

3. Tobi controlled the Kyuubi with his Sharingan. Tobi also knew about the requirements necessary to release a Bijuu from its host, including when is the best time to do so. Obito could not have obtained all of this information in such a short time. Especially considering his Sharingan eye was crushed and the other one gone, so he could not have read the Uchiha tablet.

4. Tobi controlled the fourth Mizukage Yagura through genjutsu. This is an inconsistency with timeline and talent.

then why did he say to kakashi " you dont remember faces" that make it seem like he was an old friend
 

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why cant we just leave tobi's theories threads to rest for now.


There's no point in trying convince ppl of anything regareding this topic as there will be some1 that says tobi is obitio that traveled to the past etc...

will find out soon enough.
 

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READ THE CHAPTER WELL.He was clearly talking to GUY NOT KAKASHI.How many times is this question going to be asked ?
 

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People thought Danzo was Tobi much way and look what happened to that.

Your acting like your worried about them LOL.

I'm not worried about anything. I'm just informing the people that seem to be VERY unaware of this simple information. Maybe once they read it (not in the last poster ^rasenshintan's case lol) they'll get a better idea.
 
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