I thought Joki was wrong thinking Kimimaro is overrated. I used to think Kimimaro is underrated not overrated but I guess I was wrong and Joki was right.
I thought Joki was wrong thinking Kimimaro is overrated. I used to think Kimimaro is underrated not overrated but I guess I was wrong and Joki was right.
First of all Lee just got out of an operation. Secondly Kimimaro did not fight Lee and Gaara at once. Thirdly A>B>C logic does not work in these types of battles. Also current Temari is a high jounin level ninja while Sakura is arguably low jounin or high chunin. You should realize Kimimaro fought part 1 Gaara so saying part 2 Temari and Sakura would lose without supporting evidence does not make much sense.
Kimimaro fought a weakened Lee (granted, Kimi himself was sick but didn't show signs of illness right away unlike Lee who just came out of a life threatening operation) and his bone strength was a bad match for Gaara's sand, which was used to trap and crush people. Temari would wreck him with kiri kiri mai which is regarded as one of her top jutsu, and we have seen her in the past cut down trees and samurai armor like nobody's business. And if Sakura lands a hit on him, he's dead, she'd shatter his bones.
Sakura was specifically trained in dodging by one of the Sannin and Temari is a jonin who was able to deflect sound and Lee's kicks back when she was younger, plus Sakura can heal, so dodging and recovering is not too much of a problem for these two kunoichi.
Kimimaro fought a weakened Lee (granted, Kimi himself was sick but didn't show signs of illness right away unlike Lee who just came out of a life threatening operation) and his bone strength was a bad match for Gaara's sand, which was used to trap and crush people. Temari would wreck him with kiri kiri mai which is regarded as one of her top jutsu, and we have seen her in the past cut down trees and samurai armor like nobody's business. And if Sakura lands a hit on him, he's dead, she'd shatter his bones.
Sakura was specifically trained in dodging by one of the Sannin and Temari is a jonin who was able to deflect sound and Lee's kicks back when she was younger, plus Sakura can heal, so dodging and recovering is not too much of a problem for these two kunoichi.
Finally someone with brainsxd. Temari can deflect Kimimaro's bone attacks pretty easily. Sakura was able to dodge most of Sasori's attacks which makes her a formidable opponent. I don't think kiri kiri mae will kill Kimimaro but it will damage him. This technique, on the other hand, will screw Kimimaro over:
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Kimimaro's bones are strong but no where near as strong as the 3rd Raikage's body. I don't see how Kimimaro can win here. I don't get why people think Temari is some fodder who will lose to any powerful ninja.
I think Sakura is underrated, she can make earthquakes with one punch. One kick to Kimimaro from Lee and he admitted it hurt a little, and he stopped the impact with his bones. If Sakura punches the ground and forces Kimimaro to jump to dodge she can intercept him mid air a send a building busting punch to his face. She has sleep bombs ,smoke bombs and is acutally pretty intelligent, she would put up a good fight.
I don't think Sakura wins necessarily but I wouldn't count her out..
I just wanted to post about Sakura for a bit though, since Temari is a no-brainer and together they'd trump him anyway.
I was thinking the same but I do believe Kimimaro would most likely beat Temari especially if he is healthy because his defence may be weaker but he could avoid vital hits and then impale Temari with a bone. On the other hand, Temari could just blow Kimimaro back and he won't get a chance to do that.
How is Sakura a drawback for Temari? If anything she will heal Temari if she gets hurt and Sakura can be good for a cqc fight with Kimimaro while Temari retreats to blast Kimimaro.
I think Sakura is underrated, she can make earthquakes with one punch. One kick to Kimimaro from Lee and he admitted it hurt a little, and he stopped the impact with his bones. If Sakura punches the ground and forces Kimimaro to jump to dodge she can intercept him mid air a send a building busting punch to his face. She has sleep bombs ,smoke bombs and is acutally pretty intelligent, she would put up a good fight.
I don't think Sakura wins necessarily but I wouldn't count her out..
I just wanted to post about Sakura for a bit though, since Temari is a no-brainer and together they'd trump him anyway.
Sakura is indeed underrated but I don't think she is on his level yet. Her punches, if they make contact, will hurt Kimimaro significantly but I do believe he can avoid getting his vitals damaged. With what difficulty will they win with?
I was thinking the same but I do believe Kimimaro would most likely beat Temari especially if he is healthy because his defence may be weaker but he could avoid vital hits and then impale Temari with a bone. On the other hand, Temari could just blow Kimimaro back and he won't get a chance to do that.
How is Sakura a drawback for Temari? If anything she will heal Temari if she gets hurt and Sakura can be good for a cqc fight with Kimimaro while Temari retreats to blast Kimimaro.
Sakura is indeed underrated but I don't think she is on his level yet. Her punches, if they make contact, will hurt Kimimaro significantly but I do believe he can avoid getting his vitals damaged. With what difficulty will they win with?
Not sure exactly what difficulty, but my logic was this:
Sakura is a strategical ninja and smart, medical ninja were trained in evasion and Sakura has ridiculous power and was trained by Tsunade. This is one of the main methods of their fighting and what Sakura could pull off.
First, Sakura's punches:
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This is obvious, that's ridiculous strength. Do you honestly see Kimimaro surviving that? Well anyway, as you said yourself he'd be "hurt significantly" but not dead, this is exactly what Sakura can jump on.
He is going to stagger or get knocked off balance even if he's grazed with punches of that level, well that's fine because then Sakura can follow up with more barrages of those building busting punches. It's no one-time jutsu, the best part is she can keep punching over and over just like regular punches. He also likes to parry with Lee and actually defend against his taijutsu, without knowledge vs Sakura that's a big mistake.
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Naruto was using rasengan towards Tsunade, she created a fissure underneath him and he completely lost his balance and was helpless, contrary to a second ago, Tsunade could just follow up and punch forward and kill the helpless Naruto. It's obvious anyone standing on the ground when Sakura punches an earthquake woould lose their balance and fall under the same scenario. The best thing to do to avoid that would be to jump or similar, Kimimaro has never shown Kage Bunshin or any form of defense like that, so that'd be actually falling right into her trap.
Because that is exactly what Sasuke did, it s a basic battle tactic.
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To further support this though, here's Tsunade doing it in action:
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After using her jutsu to scramble Kabuto's nerves she jumps on the chance to follow up and punch him. Obviously if he hadn't already torn her muscles to make her punches weak he'd have been dead, but yeah I think you get the point lol.
To conclude, I personally think myself that Sakura can win this. Coupled with her strategically placed sleep/smoke bombs and ninja tools, along with the above she stands a very good chance against Kimi by herself. Like you know I think he's reaaaally overrated lol, I just didn't want to say I thought Sakura could win in my original post anyway. Together with Temari, it's quite a stomp IMO, not sure exactly what difficulty but Sakura personally can win with mid or so difficulty.
edit: Heh, I like how that's pretty much all summarized in my first post.
if Sakura punches the ground and forces Kimimaro to jump to dodge she can intercept him mid air a send a building busting punch to his face. She has sleep bombs ,smoke bombs and is acutally pretty intelligent
Sakura's punches aren't likely to hurt Kimi. Kimi was able to survive being crushed by Gaara's sand, which
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At this point, Sakura likely becomes useless in terms of combat.
I'm not really sure how fuuton attacks would effect him, though. Maybe they would be able to cut through him, given it could penetrate Raikage's defense, but it's hard to say, given we can't really compare his bone defense to Raikage's raiton defense.
Sakura's punches aren't likely to hurt Kimi. Kimi was able to survive being crushed by Gaara's sand, which
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At this point, Sakura likely becomes useless in terms of combat.
I'm not really sure how fuuton attacks would effect him, though. Maybe they would be able to cut through him, given it could penetrate Raikage's defense, but it's hard to say, given we can't really compare his bone defense to Raikage's raiton defense.
Bones can still be punched. Crushing is not the same as blunt force. Remember when Kimi was sent 10 meters flying by Lee's kick and said it hurt? Yeah, Lee's kicks don't make earthquakes.
At the VERY least, Kimimaro will say "ugh!" and back up, by that time Sakura will be on him and it will be all over.
Just like how if Lee had wanted, when Kimimaro was on the ground from a kick, if it was 100% Lee he'd have entered 5 gates and torn him apart before he could get up.
Bones can still be punched. Crushing is not the same as blunt force. Remember when Kimi was sent 10 meters flying by Lee's kick and said it hurt? Yeah, Lee's kicks don't make earthquakes.
At the VERY least, Kimimaro will say "ugh!" and back up, by that time Sakura will be on him and it will be all over.
Just like how if Lee had wanted, when Kimimaro was on the ground from a kick, if it was 100% Lee he'd have entered 5 gates and torn him apart before he could get up.
Kimi also wasn't using his bone mask. Using your scenario, once he saw Sakura could cause "earthquakes", he would prepare to be hit by her. Not to mention, his taijutsu is on a completely different level to hers, so even saying Sakura could hit him in a taijutsu match would be stretching it. Sakura's listed as a 3(average) in taijutsu, Kimi is listed as a 5(elite).
Lee only managed to hurt him after becoming intoxicated and unpredictable. Sakura trying to engage him in CQC would end in a relatively quick death for her, if Kimi has killing intent.
Kimi also wasn't using his bone mask. Using your scenario, once he saw Sakura could cause "earthquakes", he would prepare to be hit by her. Not to mention, his taijutsu is on a completely different level to hers, so even saying Sakura could hit him in a taijutsu match would be stretching it. Sakura's listed as a 3(average) in taijutsu, Kimi is listed as a 5(elite).
Lee only managed to hurt him after becoming intoxicated and unpredictable. Sakura trying to engage him in CQC would end in a relatively quick death for her, if Kimi has killing intent.
Yep, Lee only managed to hit him, as in knock him down. That's good, because before that Lee and Kimimaro had clashed dozens of times. Against someone who can create earthquakes with her punches, that's a big mistake.
Who says she will instantly create an earthquake before entering a taijutsu skirmish? Who says she won't throw a smoke boomb and while Kimimaro is helpless crush him? I accept your constructive criticism but I'll have to direct you to my
Yep, Lee only managed to hit him, as in knock him down. That's good, because before that Lee and Kimimaro had clashed dozens of times. Against someone who can create earthquakes with her punches, that's a big mistake.
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here....are you saying Kimi would be foolish to fight her? I'll let your clarify before responding lol
Who says she will instantly create an earthquake before entering a taijutsu skirmish? Who says she won't throw a smoke boomb and while Kimimaro is helpless crush him? I accept your constructive criticism but I'll have to direct you to my
I was going off of your scenario of your "make him jump in to the air then attack" strategy.
And Kimi only clashed with Lee because Lee was close to him in taijutsu prowess and speed. Kimi should have no issue dodging Sakura, not in the slightest. He's 2 tiers above her in taijustu and a tier and a half above her in speed. There's not a single, possible way she can beat Kimi in taijutsu, unless Kimi decides he wants to be beaten.
And going back to your attacking him in mid air strategy, like I said, if Kimi saw her strength, he would simply use bone mask, and if Sakura ever does hit him, it won't do any damage.
Lee couldn't even manage to touch Kimi until he became intoxicated, and Lee was a tier better than Sakura in taijutsu and speed before being intoxicated, so what makes you believe Sakura can?
Joki is the only one who says Sakura can solo and as for the earthquake she can create. It isn't unavoidable or else Kakashi would be in the hospital.
Sakura is very smart and her skills are underrated but Kimimaro was one of the strongest non kage level characters in part 1. His bones are stronger than tempered steel and Sakura has never shown she can destroy tempered steel.
She will manage to hurt him but will be impaled by one of Kimimaro's various dances.
Temari has actually shown the ability to destroy defences though so I don't think Kimimaro can fully tank that. If people are saying that Kimimaro can fully tank Temari's fuutons than I guess he can tank chidori and rasengan too?
This would mean even Kakashi without kamui doesn't stand a chance but that is not true.
