how can you say tobirama lost to 20 fodder ninja he should be top 5 of all time

[narutorikudoumode]

until kishi shows tobirama abilties his ranking is undetermined

 

[~MC117~]

Tobirama lost to 20 elite ninjas

 

[jiraiya lives]

not top 10 top 100

 

[Prime Rib]

i believe that tobirama was much more stronger than hashirama my opinion.

the ninjas he fought and died against were s-rank ninjas not only that he fought kinaku

 

[New Era]

20 elite ninja and two of them were Ginkaku/Kinkaku. It's crazy that people call him the fodder hokage.

yea it is

until kishi shows tobirama abilties his ranking is undetermined

just what i've heard from him to me he should be in the top 10 but who knows

Tobirama lost to 20 elite ninjas

yep

not top 10 top 100

how

i believe that tobirama was much more stronger than hashirama my opinion.

the ninjas he fought and died against were s-rank ninjas not only that he fought kinaku

If anyone went up against that your going to have to distract them and save your team

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

tobirama abilities of space time,edo tensai

we dont know anythign about how well he used either of those

he is a well respected shinobi from world wide

only konoha respects him. the world thinks hes a piece of shit for creating such a vile jutsu

the third raikage story is impressive but it was just regular shinobi

by that logic i can also assume the 20 nins were regulars too. you so readily assume third riakage didnt face a single jounin

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Kinkaku is capable of going 6-Tailed Beast form and so is Ginkaku(Haven't seen this but just theorizing based off of Kinkaku's transformation)... IDK how Tobirama even survived this

same way darui and chouza did

 

[New Era]

we dont know anythign about how well he used either of those

only konoha respects him. the world thinks hes a piece of shit for creating such a vile jutsu

by that logic i can also assume the 20 nins were regulars too. you so readily assume third riakage didnt face a single jounin

he used edo tensai well enough to bring people back alive and under there control because when muu was alive he just said we must be under tobirama edo tensai and it was like it was nothing new to them or any alterations to the jutsu but tobirama could still bring back people from the dead for his control which is the main point of the jutsu.

they respect him for his power but they think he had the most defying jutsu of all time but he is respected in power.

in tobirama story they said he fought 20 elite shinobi for, the raikage they didn't they just said the raikage fought ten tousand shinobi that is it, it didn't say elite shinobi, i am not saying the shinobi the raikage fought were not powerful but they weren't describe as an elite opponent

 

[New Era]

same way darui and chouza did

they survive becasue they had help from a whole unit and those three had special abilities that not everyone has becuase ti is unique to a clan, do you really think that those two would survive against 20 elite ninja