The eyes of the Juubi

[ImNoOne]

This was the last drop.

Well i belive the sage got rinnegan form the Juubi

I usually don't do this. Making a thread to prove someone's wrong, but....
I've been reading idiocies like these for over an year now. Unfounded claims stating that the Juubi has Rinnegan and Sharingan and so on and so forth.

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The two pics we have from Juubi one it doesn't show his eye. The other one it is facing Rikudo Sannin in what we can assume by the stand of the SO6P that was their battle.

The eye seems to be yet related only to the power of the sage itself.

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That is not the Juubi eye. It's a representation of the Sage's Power. The nine tomoes represent power. That's why Naruto also have the tomoes on him when in BM and KM while he has no relation to the sharingan at all.

Also if you take a short while to reflect on how so far we've seen doujutso users controlling tailed beasts and you look carefully to the beast's eyes:

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And when he was going out of it,

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The beast's eyes become a reflection of the user's eyes. Ence why it's more logical to assume that The eyes we are seeing in the Juubi eye is the complete form of the SO6P's eyes than that this eye pattern belongs to the Juubi itself.

So please stop making idiotic assumptions and taking as granted that the Juubi has the Rinnegan. And don't even get me started on that theory where Rikudo Sannin only obtained the rinnegan after he assimilated the Jubbi because if that was true then Rinnegan would be impossible to attain without the Juubi, which clearly is not the case. I'd urge some of NB users to think twice before they go out and agree with every single hotblooded thought theory people post on these forums.

Thank you.

 

[Negative Knight]

Awesome thread +Rep

also how the hell can people think he got it from the Juubi, like he was a ramen guy before managed to beat it, seal it in him then he got his powers

 

[KuroKaze]

plz somebody tell me how to post a new thread plzzzz.....somebody...

 

[itachi200882]

good

 

[Naruto cool]

to make threads got 2 forums and click new thread

 

[sindi1997]

Pal if what you say its true then the sage of the six paths didn t fought the juubi he only controled it like it was nothing then sealed it So no but nice work

 

[NOemotions]

This was the last drop.

I usually don't do this. Making a thread to prove someone's wrong, but....
I've been reading idiocies like these for over an year now. Unfounded claims stating that the Juubi has Rinnegan and Sharingan and so on and so forth.

Spoiler

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The two pics we have from Juubi one it doesn't show his eye. The other one it is facing Rikudo Sannin in what we can assume by the stand of the SO6P that was their battle.

The eye seems to be yet related only to the power of the sage itself.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

That is not the Juubi eye. It's a representation of the Sage's Power. The nine tomoes represent power. That's why Naruto also have the tomoes on him when in BM and KM while he has no relation to the sharingan at all.

Also if you take a short while to reflect on how so far we've seen doujutso users controlling tailed beasts and you look carefully to the beast's eyes:

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And when he was going out of it,

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The beast's eyes become a reflection of the user's eyes. Ence why it's more logical to assume that The eyes we are seeing in the Juubi eye is the complete form of the SO6P's eyes than that this eye pattern belongs to the Juubi itself.

So please stop making idiotic assumptions and taking as granted that the Juubi has the Rinnegan. And don't even get me started on that theory where Rikudo Sannin only obtained the rinnegan after he assimilated the Jubbi because if that was true then Rinnegan would be impossible to attain without the Juubi, which clearly is not the case. I'd urge some of NB users to think twice before they go out and agree with every single hotblooded thought theory people post on these forums.

Thank you.

Ive been saying the very same thing like 100times already lol, well, there will be always theories and speculation. ( which are usually horribly wrong ) People should use brainz more + rep for making this before me.

 

[WhistleBlower]

thanks for posting this thread, but alot of people still wont learn so...

 

[ImNoOne]

Pal if what you say its true then the sage of the six paths didn t fought the juubi he only controled it like it was nothing then sealed it So no but nice work

No where was it ever stated that the battle was long and difficult for the SO6P. We have just taking that as fact because sometime ago someone made that assumption and everybody agreed without second guessing it a single time. Also just because it used his eyes to control it doesn't mean it was an easy feat. If it was easy to control the Kyuubi granted you had sharingan then why would Madara be the first one to do that after countless generations of Uchiha before him, far closely related to the Elder Son. It's no easy feat to control a tailed beast via doujutso, much less if it's the ten tails.

 

[andrets]

very wellsaid.... fufufu...+ rep!

 

[ImNoOne]

Thank you all for the +rep. Hopefully people ca ref this thread whenever someone makes a statement like that of alexu9696

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

intoresting

 

[ImNoOne]

intoresting

*interesting and thanks.

 

[nj tandi]

Yeah,people make stupid threads.The best thing is not to read them.

Good thread.

 

[ImNoOne]

Yeah,people make stupid threads.The best thing is not to read them.

Good thread.

My problem isn't usually the stupid threads themselves because I can just chose to ignore them and stop reading. What get's my nerves is when people drag the supposedly conclusion of said threads into an argument that is happening in a valid thread. That's what concerns me. The word "fact" flies around for a lot of BS around these forums.

 

[Gooner4life]

Very good thread, it's not logical to think he got rinnegan from the juubi, the sage created ninjutsu, and to do this and master all six chakra natures, the rinnegan is necessary. Are people trying to tell me he fought the juubi without ninjutsu? :sy: +rep

 

[ImNoOne]

Very good thread, it's not logical to think he got rinnegan from the juubi, the sage created ninjutsu, and to do this and master all six chakra natures, the rinnegan is necessary. Are people trying to tell me he fought the juubi without ninjutsu? :sy: +rep

Precisely, it wouldn't make any sense. What would he have fought with? Taijutso? Against a massive monster perhaps thousands of times heavier and stronger? I which making threads like this wasn't necessary and normally I think they aren't, but unfortunately from time to time we're proven wrong and we have to make one of these.

 

[dhaoracle]

This was the last drop.

I usually don't do this. Making a thread to prove someone's wrong, but....
I've been reading idiocies like these for over an year now. Unfounded claims stating that the Juubi has Rinnegan and Sharingan and so on and so forth.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Spoiler

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The two pics we have from Juubi one it doesn't show his eye. The other one it is facing Rikudo Sannin in what we can assume by the stand of the SO6P that was their battle.

The eye seems to be yet related only to the power of the sage itself.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

That is not the Juubi eye. It's a representation of the Sage's Power. The nine tomoes represent power. That's why Naruto also have the tomoes on him when in BM and KM while he has no relation to the sharingan at all.

Also if you take a short while to reflect on how so far we've seen doujutso users controlling tailed beasts and you look carefully to the beast's eyes:

Spoiler

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And when he was going out of it,

You must be registered for see images

The beast's eyes become a reflection of the user's eyes. Ence why it's more logical to assume that The eyes we are seeing in the Juubi eye is the complete form of the SO6P's eyes than that this eye pattern belongs to the Juubi itself.

So please stop making idiotic assumptions and taking as granted that the Juubi has the Rinnegan. And don't even get me started on that theory where Rikudo Sannin only obtained the rinnegan after he assimilated the Jubbi because if that was true then Rinnegan would be impossible to attain without the Juubi, which clearly is not the case. I'd urge some of NB users to think twice before they go out and agree with every single hotblooded thought theory people post on these forums.

Thank you.

You was making sooo much sense until you said that Rikudo Sennin had a Rinnegan/Sharingan eye. I am going to show you what is wrong with that theory. Yes it is a nice theory but it has a lot of holes in it.

1. If he would have has that eye don't you think that he would have been able to create ninjutsu BEFORE he captured the Juubi and not after??

2. Clearly in the latest manga which you even like to refer from it states that:

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That Atara was the beginning of all chakra not Rikudo. So wouldn't it make sense that if he created everything he would have also created the Rinnegan?? The only way I cuold see him not doing that is if Rikudo Sennin created the Rinnegan through some kind of Fuinjutsu.

3. Every time we see Rikduo Sennin's eyes they never show a single tomoe on his eyes ever. He seems to have the exact same eyes that Madara has right now no different and even Madara who we know to have the Sharingan cannot even mixed the eyes together with all of his mastery.

Now we have seen that sign or symbol of eyes when he is Using Creation of All Things. We don't know how he came to Master Spiritual(Yin) & Physical(Yang) Energy but we do know that with mastery comes the ability to Master All of Creation, something the Juubi is absolutely known for. So it is safe to say that he gained most of his powers after he became the Juubi's Jinchuriki.

4. If Rikudo Sennin had the eyes before and the power to use Creation of All Things I think that it is safe to say that he would have created the Juubi and is like a million years old or something but that couldn't be possible because he is dead now.

Meaning that with whatever power he had Rikudo Sennin was the first person to beat The Forces of Nature and harness its powers. So it also safe to say that whatever he captured the Juubi with was some very very powerful Fuinjutsu.

5. I remember back like 2 years ago that there was a story on Rikudo Sennin saying that he was just as powerful as everyone else around him and only when he became the Jinchuriki that the gap between powers was super wide.

So to summarize Rikudo Sennin did not have the Rinnegan/Sharingan before he caught the Juubi(It is kind of odd how it looks like how Kurama eyes looked when he was caught by Madara & Tobi). If he has the Rinnegan before he would have been created ninjutsu way before he captured the Juubi and not after. I mean with the Rinnegan he would basically has power over all nature even chakra itself kind of like the Juubi hmmmm interesting. So I believe that he gained the power to control nature itself after basically caputuring the force of nature, hmm interesting once again that he would gain the Rinnegan.

Also I believe that you can fight and capture the Juubi with FUINJUTSU. You don't need to know any ninjutsu to use Fuinjnutsu, it is like the basics of using even a small amount of chakra without knowing how to form chakra at all. Plus Fuinjutsu is very, very powerful.

What are you called when you capture the Progenitor??

 

[ImNoOne]

You was making sooo much sense until you said that Rikudo Sennin had a Rinnegan/Sharingan eye. I am going to show you what is wrong with that theory. Yes it is a nice theory but it has a lot of holes in it.

1. If he would have has that eye don't you think that he would have been able to create ninjutsu BEFORE he captured the Juubi and not after??

2. Clearly in the latest manga which you even like to refer from it states that:

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That Atara was the beginning of all chakra not Rikudo. So wouldn't it make sense that if he created everything he would have also created the Rinnegan?? The only way I cuold see him not doing that is if Rikudo Sennin created the Rinnegan through some kind of Fuinjutsu.

3. Every time we see Rikduo Sennin's eyes they never show a single tomoe on his eyes ever. He seems to have the exact same eyes that Madara has right now no different and even Madara who we know to have the Sharingan cannot even mixed the eyes together with all of his mastery.

Now we have seen that sign or symbol of eyes when he is Using Creation of All Things. We don't know how he came to Master Spiritual(Yin) & Physical(Yang) Energy but we do know that with mastery comes the ability to Master All of Creation, something the Juubi is absolutely known for. So it is safe to say that he gained most of his powers after he became the Juubi's Jinchuriki.

4. If Rikudo Sennin had the eyes before and the power to use Creation of All Things I think that it is safe to say that he would have created the Juubi and is like a million years old or something but that couldn't be possible because he is dead now.

Meaning that with whatever power he had Rikudo Sennin was the first person to beat The Forces of Nature and harness its powers. So it also safe to say that whatever he captured the Juubi with was some very very powerful Fuinjutsu.

5. I remember back like 2 years ago that there was a story on Rikudo Sennin saying that he was just as powerful as everyone else around him and only when he became the Jinchuriki that the gap between powers was super wide.

So to summarize Rikudo Sennin did not have the Rinnegan/Sharingan before he caught the Juubi(It is kind of odd how it looks like how Kurama eyes looked when he was caught by Madara & Tobi). If he has the Rinnegan before he would have been created ninjutsu way before he captured the Juubi and not after. I mean with the Rinnegan he would basically has power over all nature even chakra itself kind of like the Juubi hmmmm interesting. So I believe that he gained the power to control nature itself after basically caputuring the force of nature, hmm interesting once again that he would gain the Rinnegan.

Also I believe that you can fight and capture the Juubi with FUINJUTSU. You don't need to know any ninjutsu to use Fuinjnutsu, it is like the basics of using even a small amount of chakra without knowing how to form chakra at all. Plus Fuinjutsu is very, very powerful.

What are you called when you capture the Progenitor??

Firstly, thanks for posting.
Secondly and thirdly and so on and on; If you read carefully I did not say that the SO6P's Rinnegan had the tomoes. All I said was that said pattern could be only due to the sage. As in the tomoes do not appear on his eyes but he does use them as a token around the neck and on his back. Kishi does this all the time. The monster with the two sets of eyes doesn't exist, it's not real. Yet Kishi has shown it to us more than once to represent the power of the Eternal Mangeiko Sharingan.

Regarding your other points. Yes it is said that the Juubi was the Source of all chakra, but Rikudo did not spread the Ten-tails chakra amount everybody in the world, he split it into 9 basts. Yet, in the present it seems a whole lot of people are able to use it. Why would you think it would be any different at the time Rikudo lived? The Juubi being the primordial source of all chakra does not, in any way, imply that until he was sealed no one else had access to use chakra. Besides there are other ways to use chakra other than Ninjutso. The samurais are able to use chakra and they do not use Ninjutso.

Rikudo Sanin could and most likely did creat Ninjutso before he went on to confront the Ten tails. Most likely he had already begun to preach/teach ninjutso before the battle and went to said battle exactly because he had the Rinnegan and Ninjutso and was probably the only one who could face the Beast.

As a final note. We've seen that Rinnegan and the ability to control all the chakra natures does in deed open the user many doors. What it doesn't do on it's own is to grant the user the means to actually go through said doors.
In other words Rinnegan allows you to use a shit load of powers but it doesn't provide you with the chakra you will need to fuel them. We can see this in Nagato, who died of chakra depletion after over using the Rinnegans abilities, we can see how Madara relays on his Hashirama cells in order to be able to spam Rinnegan abilities, we can see how tobi needs the one tail to full Gedo Mazo and I'm sure the more Rinnegan users we'd met the more examples I'd have to give you.

Creation of All Things would basically be something that would be available to any one who has the means (Rinnegan) and the opportunity (ten-tails chakra).

Hope that was enough to convince you. I'm not trying to say that the Juubi wasn't a big part of the strength of SO6P, quite the contrary. All I'm saying is that the Rinnegan was originally from the sage and not from the beast.