Feats Comparison: Itachi vs Minato

[TobisPawn]

Got this idea from another forum. Here's how I see it:​

Brawling

• Speed - Minato. No need to explain this really.
• Reflexes - Minato. Minato reacted to V2 A and Itachi reacted to lightning. The A feat sounds more impressive to me.
• Weapons - Itachi. Minato's allow him to essentially warp anywhere whereas Itachi's are great for offense and defense (spiritual weapons). I'd say Itachi's take the edge just to how haxxed they are overall.
• Strength - Draw. I can't say much for either but I'd assume they're even due to their similar age and overall prowess.
• Durability - Minato. Itachi's been shown to not have the best stamina out there.

Ninjutsu

• Offense - Itachi. Techniques such as Amaterasu give him the edge here.
• Defense - Draw. Minato's FTG lets him avoid almost any attack but Itachi has the Yata Mirror to block most attacks.
• Support - Minato. He can place tags on his allies and warp to them if needed.
• Endurance - Itachi. Susanoo + Yata Mirror is a powerful combination to get past.
• Efficiency - Minato. Killing 50(?) ninjas in an apparent blink of an eye speaks volumes for his overall efficiency. That, and he beat Tobi in a matter of seconds.

Illusions

• Offense - Itachi. Obvious reasons.
• Defense - Itachi. Countered Kurenai's Genjutsu quite easily. Minato has no feats in this department.

Intelligence

• Tactics - Draw. Minato single-handedly defeated Tobi and saved Konoha from Kurama. Itachi's plans with Sasuke (KA, Amaterasu on Tobi, etc.) were great for a 13 year old. That, and he did well against Nagato and Kabuto.
• Insight - Draw. Minato came up with the assumption on Tobi quickly and Itachi did the same. Minato's might have been more impressive overall (by a little), but Itachi was only 13 so he gets his due credit.

Feel free to make your own based on your opinions and manga evidence. From what I got, its a draw.

 

[Kinimaster]

Despite i dont agree with some points, im glad you are not biased towards any character, the amount of Itachi hate threads are really getting annoying. Good Thread.

 

[OnPoint]

Minato is faster, and both the better strategist and analyst, as we saw during his brief encounter with Tobi. When Itachi shows the capacity to create such high level jutsu (Shiki Fujin, FTG and such) then perhaps I will reconsider his position. Infact, was Itachi not fooled by Tobi's identity (believing he was Madara all the way) whilst Minato quickly deduced it was not possible? Minato is the clear winner with regards to intelligence, though it can be said that Itachi is the wiser of the two.

Your comparison seems accurate, though Itachi benefits from having a KKG and two spiritual weapons which he found.

 

[TobisPawn]

Minato is faster, and both the better strategist and analyst, as we saw during his brief encounter with Tobi. When Itachi shows the capacity to create such high level jutsu (Shiki Fujin, FTG and such) then perhaps I will reconsider his position. Infact, was Itachi not fooled by Tobi's identity (believing he was Madara all the way) whilst Minato quickly deduced it was not possible? Minato is the clear winner with regards to intelligence, though it can be said that Itachi is the wiser of the two.

Your comparison seems accurate, though Itachi benefits from having a KKG and two spiritual weapons which he found.

Yeah, Minato overall has more points in intelligence. I put the draw though because we've seen a lot more of Itachi and I can't just put him out for one little mess up. He did think pretty far ahead still. Especially for a 13 year old.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

so you gave us the points
but who is the winner though?

 

[TobisPawn]

so you gave us the points
but who is the winner though?

In a fight, I might give the edge to Itachi. But its really 50/50 for me. :shrug: I can see both of them defeating the other.

 

[OnPoint]

Yeah, Minato overall has more points in intelligence. I put the draw though because we've seen a lot more of Itachi and I can't just put him out for one little mess up. He did think pretty far ahead still.

I would still claim Itachi is a genius, though some of his decision making can be questioned. In any case, what really convinces me on who wins in that department is the fact that Minato was acting under some serious time constraints, whereas itachi had weeks to plan his moves.

 

[TobisPawn]

I would still claim Itachi is a genius, though some of his decision making can be questioned. In any case, what really convinces me on who wins in that department is the fact that Minato was acting under some serious time constraints, where as itachi had weeks to plan his moves.

That's true. But then you can say that Itachi was only 13 and hadn't developed and matured nearly as much as the Minato we saw. And Itachi still had an impressive plan overall, though some of it was a little flawed.

 

[OnPoint]

That's true. But then you can say that Itachi was only 13 and hadn't developed and matured nearly as much as the Minato we saw. And Itachi still had an impressive plan overall, though some of it was a little flawed.

What can you really say about his age? If he was 5 years older he would be 10% smarter? If we're being serious, it really is a non factor.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

In a fight, I might give the edge to Itachi. But its really 50/50 for me. :shrug: I can see both of them defeating the other.

hmm
50/50 is a nice equation tho U_U

 

[TobisPawn]

What can you really say about his age? If he was 5 years older he would be 10% smarter? If we're being serious, it really is a non factor.

He could have made a better plan. Edo Itachi even admitted that he should/could have brought Sasuke in on the plan because he could have changed the Uchiha Clan possibly. So a few years more and Itachi might have though the same.

 

[OnPoint]

He could have made a better plan. Edo Itachi even admitted that he should/could have brought Sasuke in on the plan because he could have changed the Uchiha Clan possibly. So a few years more and Itachi might have though the same.

All pure estimation.

 

[Dantee]

Minato is faster, and both the better strategist and analyst, as we saw during his brief encounter with Tobi. When Itachi shows the capacity to create such high level jutsu (Shiki Fujin, FTG and such) then perhaps I will reconsider his position. Infact, was Itachi not fooled by Tobi's identity (believing he was Madara all the way) whilst Minato quickly deduced it was not possible? Minato is the clear winner with regards to intelligence, though it can be said that Itachi is the wiser of the two.

Your comparison seems accurate, though Itachi benefits from having a KKG and two spiritual weapons which he found.

If you forgot Itachi was lieing to Sasuke to get him to believe he was evil. You can't expect everything Itachi said at that point to be true. In the recent flashback he never once addressed him as Uchiha Madara.

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I would still claim Itachi is a genius, though some of his decision making can be questioned. In any case, what really convinces me on who wins in that department is the fact that Minato was acting under some serious time constraints, whereas itachi had weeks to plan his moves.

You have to see the clear difference between the mind of an adult and the mind of a 13 year old boy. There is no explanation needed. While both Minato and Itachi made gambles Minato's paid off. However Naruto had the benefit of many people watching over while Sasuke only had people sinking him deeper into the darkness.

 

[OnPoint]

If you forgot Itachi was lieing to Sasuke to get him to believe he was evil. You can't expect everything Itachi said at that point to be true. In the recent flashback he never once addressed him as Uchiha Madara.

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You have to see the clear difference between the mind of an adult and the mind of a 13 year old boy. There is no explanation needed. While both Minato and Itachi made gambles Minato's paid off. However Naruto had the benefit of many people watching over while Sasuke only had people sinking him deeper into the darkness.

- You're guessing.
- You're guessing.

 

[Dantee]

- You're guessing.
- You're guessing.

-You're wrong.
-You're wrong.

 

[OnPoint]

-You're wrong.
-You're wrong.

That was almost funny.

 

[Dantee]

That was almost funny.

Wasn't suppose to be. :|

 

[OnPoint]

Wasn't suppose to be. :|

You're guessing that Itachi might've known Tobi's real identity, although the overwhelming evidence suggests he still believed him to be Madara (ala, the "Madara Uchiha is an invincible immortal" quote).

You're estimating the success of Itachi's plan had he produced it at a later age, despite the fact he had weeks to plan it and was aided by Danzo interms of acquiring knowledge on the Leaf's current (at that time) state of affairs.

Please come to me with concrete information, not fantasy. Kk thanks.

 

[Dantee]

You're guessing that Itachi might've known Tobi's real identity, although the overwhelming evidence suggests he still believed him to be Madara (ala, the "Madara Uchiha is an invincible immortal" quote).

You're estimating the success of Itachi's plan had he produced it at a later age, despite the fact he had weeks to plan it and was aided by Danzo interms of acquiring knowledge on the Leaf's current (at that time) state of affairs.

Please come to me with concrete information, not fantasy. Kk thanks.

The so called overwhelming evidence you're claiming is flawed because Itachi was in complete liar mode. Using that is not concrete evidence to what Itachi really knows.

Do you really think 13 year old Itachi and 21 year old Itachi is on the same plane of life lessons and intelligence? Common sense. I know you're a smart dude. Are you smarter now or were you smarter 8 years ago.

You also need to acknowledge the fact Minato had the benefit of people helping his plan unwillingly while Itachi had it the other way.

 

[cabby007]

agreed except for endurance, it was shown itachi had extremely low chakra levels