Orochimaru the snake sage

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Okay I made a post about this in another thread but no one ever mentioned it so I will go over it again.

Here is the post I made:

Didn't any of you ever think that Kabuto didn't have a perfect sage mode.
If you look at Jiraiya, he started to slightly resemble a frog when he went sage mode but Naruto just got the eyeliner when he went sm cause he had it mastered.
I think Oro took the natural energy too, releasing sage mode, and oro also has a perfect sage mode. If you think about his snakes he may always be in perfect sage mode. This may also be why kabuto began to look snakish when he took in part of oro, because there was still sage chakra there and kabuto couldn't control it perfectly like jiraiya.

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Oro could have also taken juugo's ability and integrated into himself as well to stay in sage mode indefinetly.

Also, this fits really well, cause why else would oro, jiraiya, and tsunade be called the three sannin(spelling?). Who knows, that may also be how the kages beat madara, Tsunade pulls a sage mode out of her ass.

I also recently got some more info on the matter, oro himself says that he put some senjutsu chakra in anko's curse seal, meaning he had to have done it a long time ago since the last time they interacted, to our knowledge, is during the chunnin exam and anko already had the curse mark then.

Now, thoughts?
 

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Im not sure. I thought i read somewhere that Orochimaru could never find the their hidden village. If thats true then i dont think he had sage mode at all because you need to be trained by the snakes to get Snake Sage Mode. Thats why when Kabuto fought Sasuke and Itachi he said something about him finally finding it or something.(correct me if im wrong.)
 

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Hi man.

Sorry, but I believe he just took away the personal chakra implanted into the seal which he located on Anko.
Do you remember what people (kakashi, tsunade, kabuto) told Sasuk*ee* about of the risk of falling into the actual curse given by the seal, meaning he would lose his will-soul along with his power if went beyond a certain point on power`s demand (I assume chakra)

Well ,my thoughts
 

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Oro is oro he may not have needed the snakes I think it is possible that he could have found away to do this by himself
 

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Orochimaru don't have sage mode, if anything he was like Jiraiya not really the perfect sage like kabuto or naruto.

But I still doubt he have sage mode.

I still don't think he is the snake sage though. but this remain to be seen.. because of this snake sage thing lol debate spark all across forum.
 

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It was already stated oro's body wasn't good for SM (I think >_<)..also oro just took his chakra back that's it.
 

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Oro says right here that HIS senjutsu chakra was poured into anko's seal.
 

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Idk what to think of oro I mean he resmbles a snake sage kinda like naruto's sage mode. But...idk I mean he does have snake eyes....
 

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i thought he had found the snake sage and the snake sage refused to teach him cause he wasnt worthy or able learn sage mode
 

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I would like to know where everyone is hearing about oro not being able to handle sage mode.
 

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I would like to know where everyone is hearing about oro not being able to handle sage mode.

cuz he´s just too evil, I believe Snake sage masters didn´t even like him, plus they might have asked like total slavery for their teachings, if they follow accordingly to the moral profile given to snake in the series.
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Oro might have been too dangerous to teach

which, is the same thing
 

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I would like to know where everyone is hearing about oro not being able to handle sage mode.

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I still don't see where it says he couldn't become a sage, true sage I understand, but he was still able to become a sage.

Though it doesn't make sense, why would a true snake sage look like kabuto and jiraiya when a true toad sage looks like naruto and orochimaru, it doesn't fit.
 

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i think ilike this idea of oro bein a perfect snake sage or even a sage with enhancements (we all kno of his genius in genetics) wud explain a lot of things bout his powers etc this manga has been known to hold liars n plots with half truths in order for great plot twists n suspense so i won't b surprised if 0ro withheld that info from kabuto n kabuto believing his perception of things to b real thought he had surpassed oro. wudnt it b so oro if he snuck into snake sage land and the stole intelligence on sage mode or found the place was refused access or really didn't have a body that wud b able to handle the mode stole the info on the senjutsu n taught himself? of course adapting it to his own liking . that wud explain y the sage didn't tell him that pro was there before him? my imagination is coming up with sum crazy scenarios n I'm not the creator of the manga if so then i wudnt put anything past kishi right now e.g. oro jus did a "voldermort " n was resurrected
 
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I still don't see where it says he couldn't become a sage, true sage I understand, but he was still able to become a sage.

Though it doesn't make sense, why would a true snake sage look like kabuto and jiraiya when a true toad sage looks like naruto and orochimaru, it doesn't fit.

meh you have a point .....
kabuto is petrie dish too now that i think about it meh reps + just have to wait and see i guess



i guess tsunade would have sage mode tooo
and pain mentioned something during the fight with jiraya gunna look for it
 

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Ya know, I really do think that Kabuto doesn't know what he's talking about. He may think he does have perfect sage mode when in reality he doesn't, i mean, oro has all the characteristics of a perfect sage.
 

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nah, Kabuto did get it, however once again it´s proven in this manga nothing, nothing is unbeatable. Previous records: Rinnegan, Byakungan, Susan´o, Gara`s mommy defense, and so on...

We might get to see Orochimaru summoning his bitch-y Sage, da "Rikudou Senin" himself..Oh Lord
 

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Orochimaru the Snake Sage? Nah. Orochimaru the pedo.

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